Higher vs Lower Perspectives/Mind

[Buck Edwards]

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You are being too complacent, taking democracy for granted.

But democracy also brings in people like Trump. Something more evolved  than democracy is needed. The country can't be wasting 8 years on Trump-like candidates. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Buck Edwards

[LambdaDelta]

Despite the fact that we're all corrupt as fuck, goodness and love still shine through. The other day I teared up while realizing how amazing it is that a concept such as charity organizations, for all their flaws, exists at all. It is beautiful that people give their time and money for others. Strictly speaking it is unnecessary for survival, in the most basic sense, even impedes it somewhat. In a complex system like humanity charities also became deeply intertwined with survival, but that's another matter. Point is, it's not all so bleak. "Without love it cannot be seen". That's the difference lens, then you circle back and realize that the corrupt and evil stuff is also Love and Good, that's the sameness lens. 

Humanity is advancing slowly but surely, just not within timeframes the human mind can deal with. Hundreds and thousands of years. In another iteration of this dream we may not have evolved past totally selfish, murderous apes however, stagnation is an aspect of consciousness like any other. Perhaps part of the reason we exist as humans is to realize things like this, hehe.

[Inliytened1]

46 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You are being too complacent, taking democracy for granted.

Once you lose it, it will very hard to get it back.

Income inequality is a huge problem which will drive society to fascism.

Sticking your head in the sand while oligrachs run wild is not a solution.

Are you gonna get in there yourself?

If not then you're being too complacent too.

You're not gonna do that because you're more advanced than where we are now.  

So there is no reason to be at arms.   Everything will turn out OK.

Edited 12 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Are you gonna get in there yourself?

If not then you're being too complacent too.

You're not gonna do that because you're more advanced than where we are now.  

So there is no reason to be at arms.   Everything will turn out OK.

I don't need to become a politician to point out the deep problems with where things are headed.

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't need to become a politician to point out the deep problems with where things are headed.

There's deep problems now.  So let's measure it in four years.  You may be very right.  But look guys like.Musk have been coming on for years.  It's only natural that Orange reached full peak.  It's the natural progression to the next stage.  Just look at your spiral dynamics series.  This is a stage that we will pass-through. 

[Leo Gura]

I am sick of people normalizing and rationalizing such blatant and needless pervertry and corruption.

[AION]

Truth is a bomb for your emotions. 

[gettoefl]

In my case, I am utterly incapable of honesty until I am laid out on the appointed deathbed.

Until then, sorry but I am going to continue siphoning resources from those who truly need them to survive.

I am a parasite, a festering cyst, clinging to corrosive justifications and refusing to face the truth.

Lazy, inept, grotesquely self-centered, I hereby absolve myself of responsibility to set things right.

Only when I am ready to lie down and let go - ready to die to this pathetic excuse of an existence - will I finally be someone worth breathing air with.

Following that brief interlude, now back to your regularly scheduled programs.

Edited 5 hours ago by gettoefl

[RendHeaven]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It's a question of how much corruption does one want to tolerate?

If you somehow scale your corruption tolerance to Infinity, you seamlessly become literal God dreaming this precise reality!

[RendHeaven]

7 hours ago, Buck Edwards said:

But democracy also brings in people like Trump.

No, oligarchy brings in Trump.

It's already an oligarchy. We do not have a democracy right now.

Elon literally bought Trump.

This is not the authentic will of the people - this is the will of the people twisted and contorted and manipulated by those in power.

People are dancing on strings.

[RendHeaven]

9 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

In my case, I am utterly incapable of honesty until I am laid out on the appointed deathbed.

Until then, sorry but I am going to continue siphoning resources from those who truly need them to survive.

I am a parasite, a festering cyst, clinging to corrosive justifications and refusing to face the truth.

Lazy, inept, grotesquely self-centered, I hereby absolve myself of responsibility to set things right.

Only when I am ready to lie down and let go - ready to die to this pathetic excuse of an existence - will I finally be someone worth breathing air with.

Following that brief interlude, now back to your regularly scheduled programs.

Poignant.

[Terell Kirby]

33 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:

This is not the authentic will of the people - this is the will of the people twisted and contorted and manipulated by those in power.

I find this to be an over exaggerated populist position. “The people” are mostly politically ignorant -that is what allows them to be manipulated by those in power.

General stupidity and ignorance of the people (added on with social media algorithms and toxic online echo chambers/memes) is what got Trump elected. The people need to take more responsibility for their epistemology and understanding of political science.

Edited 4 hours ago by Terell Kirby

[The Crocodile]

11 hours ago, gengar said:

It is imagination because all is mind.

No, that's just what Leo says. There is stuff above mind.

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Mechanical and chemical things are just too hardcore to change with our limited imagination. With nervous system stuff less so.

Even if you define reality as mind you are making a conflation between Mind and mind.

You're also just saying this even though it's literally just wrong.

As in healing literally just exists.

Teleportation and levitation are feasible.

Nervous energy itself is able to alter the body by intaking more of it, etc., etc.

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I doubt your far fetched claims that magic healing is so easy to do. If it was it would be well known by now. And if you can really do it i invite you to help me because i have a lot of issues.

Yeah, well, an Infinite God that is everything would also be known by now, and everybody would be awakened--not!

See, Santa is real, and healing too.

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, RendHeaven said:

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This is not the authentic will of the people - this is the will of the people twisted and contorted and manipulated by those in power.

People are dancing on strings.

No it's just where the people's mindset is today.   They're not all brainwashed.  It's not that bad.  That's basically saying everything is a conspiracy.  The fact of the matter is that Biden sucked.  And the people wanted change.  In four years it could be something different.   But it's going to take a while to shift out of Orange.  A while.  Right now everything glows Orange.

Edited 3 hours ago by Inliytened1

[The Crocodile]

10 hours ago, Jayson G said:

shamanic breathing

You may want to try actual pranayama.

Basically you inhale naturally and slowly then exhale forcefully and sharply, and keep doing that. When it gets too intense you just hold the breath outside the body and feel the effects, then start again. Or another technique is you breathe in through the left nostril hold your breath, breathe out through the right nostril, then come back through the other side, repeat.

With the alternate nostril thing, 2:48:24 is the beginners' seconds ratio (so breathe in for 2 seconds, hold for 48 seconds, and exhale for 24). That leads to heat in the body. Then 24:96:48 leads to trembling. 36:144:72 leads, traditionally, to levitation.

Leo has trouble breathing through his nose, which is why he created the shamanic breathing, which is the Wim Hof technique sped up.

[Terell Kirby]

23 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

The fact of the matter is that Biden sucked.

Is that really an absolute fact of the matter? Seems like a blanket statement that lacks nuance and research on Bidens policy and it effects on everyday Americans.

Biden did some pretty good things for infrastructure, gun safety and jobs-all in which were non partisan that the majority of people in the US benefited from.

Of course the majority voters don’t care about any of this, culture war issues are more sexy for lower minds.

Edited 3 hours ago by Terell Kirby

[gengar]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I should have been more clear. Demons can exist, but even a demon is not bad or evil. A demon is a figment of consciousness just like anything else. A demon is a child of God. So who are you to judge?

It's stupid, because everything is ONE.

Demonization is a violation of ONENESS and is an insult to the beauty of demons.

By demonizing things the mind creates division and sickness within itself.

That's why Christians are sick minds.

My point is precisely this radical implication of oneness. You state here that oneness is some simple truth that is easy to recognize, when you have stated the opposite in other comments and in your video titled "radical implications of oneness". 

How are you expecting people to grok this extremely radical truth of oneness?

Christians veil the truth just like atheists do, not only because of stupidity, but in my view moreso because oneness is so fucking radical making its so emotionally hard to grok, that intellectuelly holding the position becomes extremely hard to do. It means embracing everything you hate. You know this so I don't see why you ascribe the denial of oneness to pure stupidity. To accept oneness you basically have to accept going to the depths of hell.

I have had mushroom trips of occult consciousness where oneness became revealed and I has visions of baphomet, the diety of "as above, so below". It felt like pure insanity yet more true than anything else. I had thoughts of killing myself to release myself from limitations since nothing  matters anyway and there is no morality since all is one. So if the denial of oneness is stupidity, and its acceptance insanity, it becomes a dichotomy between stupidity and insanity. Do you really expect Christians to accept this? The denial of oneness goes extremely deep, it is basically what keeps you alive on this planet. So that is my criticism of your video, you gloss over that acceptance like its some easy thing to do when in fact its the hardest, and its not just stupidity, but pure survival keeping humans in denial.

The denial of oneness is what keeps society from collapsing and everybody dying. So you have to admit that the world runs on the bedrock of lower perspectives like Christianity (even the morality of most atheists is basically a remnant of Christian morality) , and the only reason that you are even able to access higher perspectives, is because you live in a non-collapsed society.

So your higher perspectives are actually supported by the existence of lower perspectives. 

If everybody became enlightened in an instant, society would collapse in an instant and there would be more death, killing and despair than ever before. Which is why it's tautological for that to happen. 

[gettoefl]

54 minutes ago, gengar said:

My point is precisely this radical implication of oneness. You state here that oneness is some simple truth that is easy to recognize, when you have stated the opposite in other comments and in your video titled "radical implications of oneness". 

How are you expecting people to grok this extremely radical truth of oneness?

Christians veil the truth just like atheists do, not only because of stupidity, but in my view moreso because oneness is so fucking radical making its so emotionally hard to grok, that intellectuelly holding the position becomes extremely hard to do. It means embracing everything you hate. You know this so I don't see why you ascribe the denial of oneness to pure stupidity. To accept oneness you basically have to accept going to the depths of hell.

I have had mushroom trips of occult consciousness where oneness became revealed and I has visions of baphomet, the diety of "as above, so below". It felt like pure insanity yet more true than anything else. I had thoughts of killing myself to release myself from limitations since nothing  matters anyway and there is no morality since all is one. So if the denial of oneness is stupidity, and its acceptance insanity, it becomes a dichotomy between stupidity and insanity. Do you really expect Christians to accept this? The denial of oneness goes extremely deep, it is basically what keeps you alive on this planet. So that is my criticism of your video, you gloss over that acceptance like its some easy thing to do when in fact its the hardest, and its not just stupidity, but pure survival keeping humans in denial.

The denial of oneness is what keeps society from collapsing and everybody dying. So you have to admit that the world runs on the bedrock of lower perspectives like Christianity (even the morality of most atheists is basically a remnant of Christian morality) , and the only reason that you are even able to access higher perspectives, is because you live in a non-collapsed society.

So your higher perspectives are actually supported by the existence of lower perspectives. 

If everybody became enlightened in an instant, society would collapse in an instant and there would be more death, killing and despair than ever before. Which is why it's tautological for that to happen. 

Oneness in a practical word is non-judgementalism because everyone around me is a perfect conglomeration, doing what they need to do and doing the best they can to do it. Would I criticize my own left foot for being wicked because it rashly stubbed my toe when I was out walking this afternoon?

Everyone is my long lost limb living loving leaching loathing as they need to the best they know how.

Judge not is to restore oneness.

Edited 1 hour ago by gettoefl

[vibv]

11 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

 Everything will turn out OK.

That doesn't mean it can't go to absolute shit in the meantime.

[Inliytened1]

18 minutes ago, vibv said:

That doesn't mean it can't go to absolute shit in the meantime.

Of course not - but he's fear mongering.