China (economy, society, politics, relations to other nations etc.)

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, Scholar said:

Ah yes, the people who get their news from twitter-propagandists.

Yea that’s why i have him on my beautiful ignore list. Once in a while i look at a post but it’s usually some lame propaganda.

[zazen]

@PurpleTree You have many people on ignore and love to boast about it lol. It’s just a different opinion or set of facts that maybe counters your narrative. The world’s changing fast, best to keep open minded.

You opened a thread saying anyone can post negative neutral or positive info on China. On the previous page I literally said on the China economy point - that’s it’s probably not as good as China says but not as bad as the West says it is.
 

Check out Sirius report or Arnaud Bertrand on X. Good sources on China. Speaking of the devil, a new vid on China advancing in submarine military tech just dropped:

News: 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/12/china-mystery-nuclear-battery-submarine-taiwan-war-us-navy/

https://asiatimes.com/2025/02/chinas-magnetic-tech-can-detect-us-stealth-subs-study/#

“China, have unveiled a novel detection method capable of identifying even the stealthiest submarines by tracking their magnetic wakes.”

Just as US is dislodging from Europe / Russia so they can focus their attention on the Pacific against China.

[PurpleTree]

2 hours ago, zazen said:

@PurpleTree You have many people on ignore and love to boast about it lol. It’s just a different opinion or set of facts that maybe counters your narrative. The world’s changing fast, best to keep open minded.

You opened a thread saying anyone can post negative neutral or positive info on China. On the previous page I literally said on the China economy point - that’s it’s probably not as good as China says but not as bad as the West says it is.
 

Check out Sirius report or Arnaud Bertrand on X. Good sources on China. Speaking of the devil, a new vid on China advancing in submarine military tech just dropped:

News: 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/12/china-mystery-nuclear-battery-submarine-taiwan-war-us-navy/

https://asiatimes.com/2025/02/chinas-magnetic-tech-can-detect-us-stealth-subs-study/#

“China, have unveiled a novel detection method capable of identifying even the stealthiest submarines by tracking their magnetic wakes.”

Just as US is dislodging from Europe / Russia so they can focus their attention on the Pacific against China.

Yea i love the ignore list. It‘s one of the best things about this forum. You are free to post whatever you want. But i‘m free to ignore and read whatever i want. You say we should be open minded. While you are also just very one sided. Usually just boring anti west narratives without mentioning the issues/atrocities/clamping down of freedom for example in China.

 

[zazen]

You say I'm one sided while block listing everyone who disagrees with you and makes you challenge your own worldview bro. I literally said China aren't economically as good as they say they are, but not as bad as the West say they are - how is that one sided? Enjoy echo chambering yourself into a bubble and being detached from reality. I commented in the Ukraine thread to explain why it comes across like people are anti-Western, even if they aren't. Simply because there is more to criticise.

20 hours ago, zazen said:

@PurpleTree @Scholar @Lyubov  You guys view comments from myself, Raze or Hatfort above and conclude we are anti-West for the sake of it. I think this is mistaking focus for bias, and clarity for having some anti-West agenda. Maybe the reason the West gets critiqued more is because it does more criticizable things? At a scale incomparable to others.

The Western centric view wants people outraged about headscarves in Iran while the countries surrounding Iran are reduced to moonscapes by the West. They want you crying about artistic suppression in China - which, in reality is China refusing to let foreign backed protest movements destabilize its governance - while they turn a blind eye to ethnic cleansing in Gaza.

Theres a reason why the threads on this forum regarding the Ukraine/Russia war or Israel get the most engagement - because in the grand hierarchy of global destabilisation, death and destruction - these pose the most risk and are the most vile. The reason for frequent comments criticizing the West and in particular the US, is because of the frequency of violations and the fact that the US is behind the worst of them.

You yourselves are now bemoaning how the US is now treating Europe. As Kissinger said ''“To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”

Westerners, especially Europeans, are being force fed a civilisational and geopolitical red pill through the red blood of their own people in Ukraine. The war has laid bare the reality of their existence: that they aren't independent nations, but vassals propping up US hegemony. 

Anyone pointing out the empire's tendency to feed its "allies" into the wood chipper gets dismissed as an "America hater" or "Russian bot." Now we're watching  european economies implode while Washington whistles all the way to the bank. Apparently, focusing on the empire that has 800+ military bases, turns nations into failed states and treats sanctions like party favours means you're "obsessed." Some of us can't help noticing that one player is responsible for more global chaos than all others combined. 

And now Europe's getting that "special friend" treatment previously reserved for the Global South. Their leaders are learning what leaders in the Middle East and Latin America have known for decades: the empire doesn't have allies, only useful idiots. This challenges our worldview about our own ''Western civilisation” and the lofty sounding rhetoric we were made to believe about it.

The Cold war with Russia is ending, but the awakening from the splash of cold water waking us up from our propagandized existence has just begun.