What is a Soul?

[James123]

24 minutes ago, Salariatu said:

The human consciousness, the soul, apparently it does stuff, you can hallucinate in that paradigm for a long time, human consciousness creates for individuals their thoughts and feelings, it can be fancy, is something common, it appeals to the individual. But not get caught in that. It is a deceiving thing, is what The Matrix is, consciousness that flies around and recreates new paradigms, is just a hallucination. Is the Spiritual Pipe Dream in other concepts.

This sentences are an another concepts and beliefs. Realization of any idea, sentence and thoughts belongs to the matrix is dissolution of the self. Therefore Being Empty and just Being is inevitable.

[Inliytened1]

On 1/14/2025 at 2:07 AM, decentralized said:

Is soul real? How is it different from the life force within us? Is it possible to experience it? Where does it go when the body dies? Does it reincarnate?

Realizing the soul was an illusion was what awoken me during self inquiry.  I thought I was a soul.   When doing self inquiry everyone believes they are something.   The body.  The soul.  The face.  The brain.  Something.  For me it was a soul because of the culture and the upbringing.

It's imaginary. 

Edited January 15 by Inliytened1

[Oppositionless]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Realizing the soul was an illusion was what awoken me during self inquiry.  I thought I was a soul.   When doing self inquiry everyone believes they are something.   The body.  The soul.  The face.  The brain.  Something.  For me it was a soul because of the culture and the upbringing.

It's imaginary. 

Have you realized immortality? If you have how do you reconcile that with no soul?

[Inliytened1]

16 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

Have you realized immortality? If you have how do you reconcile that with no soul?

 Well that's precisely it.  When you realize you aren't the soul you will realize immortality. 

Edited January 15 by Inliytened1

[Hojo]

@Salariatu I think this is just wrong. The ego is agent Smith. The soul is binding you to your reality and is there before your identity is constructed and will be there after your identity deconstructs. Its your bliss body. Its always happy and can contort its self like saran wrap. It can get crinkled and that skews your world view.

God loves something. Your soul is Gods best friend. It needs it to exist. When I awaken I see how much God needs the soul, without the soul which is you, God is nothing and it has nothing to love. Once you see God you see God is nothing but love but it dosent have anything to love it makes you the soul to visit reality and be Gods friend. If someone thinks the soul isnt real to me, is saying nothing is real.

Ultimately true but the second you make the threshold between soul-God there are 0 concepts. So to me by talking you are saying the soul is real. And using it and its limits to say its not real. It dosen't make any logical sense. God cant talk to itself. You are using language to talk to say you cant talk.

You exist in another dimension before God as you, and you can explore it, as you, and you cant die. God created your soul to love it forever.

This is like if we were in the matrix and asking is the matrix real? Yes its real. It is reality and it exists as you can see it and interact with it. Its an information system and the body is an information gatherer. Your soul takes metaphysical concepts and applies them to itself to act as an actor on the planet and believe it to be real. If God did this to itself everyone would be that same personality and saying the same thing at the same time. A dream is real the matrix is real its just another extension of something ultimately not real and completely spiritual.

Edited January 16 by Hojo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

11 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Salariatu 

The soul is the pure essence that takes form after form and evolves with the eternal dance of karma, with which it corrupts itself to deepen itself incessantly, until it is freed to be form and non-form at the same time, ascending to less dense and deeper dimensions, in an inevitable cycle given the absence of limits of reality.

Yes this 

Salariatu's belief - and it is a belief - I feel sorry for him.

Maybe they will learn as they progress through life, maybe not.

 

[Aaron p]

Depends what your meaning, Christians say soul they mean mind will and emotions. What the Hindus call the soul refers to what the Christians call the spirit (the eternal part of you that is immortal).

[Matty1]

Before I get into the answer, let me clear up some misconceptions you might’ve absorbed through pop-culture. The soul as this ethereal transparent thing attached to your body that leaves your body when it dies is bollocks. Media depicts the soul in such a way as a story-telling device, and is not meant to be taken literally. This is a materialist depiction that still doesn’t answer how an immaterial mind can somehow emerge out of a physical substance. This depiction of the soul is just a substitute for the brain (a vessel that carries what makes you you) and is wholly incorrect.

Quite simply, the soul is your immaterial immortal self; again, when I say immaterial, I’m not talking about this “transparent substance” like you see in the movies. That’s still material. By immaterial I mean the things you experience every day but overlay it with thoughts that it’s “all perception” and is “happening somewhere in the brain”. Also rubbish. Everything you see, everything you hear, etc is part of your soul. There are no soul(s) (plural), there is only THE soul, or the World Soul as some philosophers call it. This soul can’t go anywhere because it doesn’t exist in space-time, instead space-time is contained WITHIN the soul.

So with that in place, let’s answer these questions one by one:
Q: “Is the soul real?”

A: Yes, with the caveat that ONLY the soul is real. Everything else are just ideas.
Q: “How is it different from the life force within us? “

A: Life force/chi/energy exists within the astral-physical world and is more like one of God’s constructs/limitations that allow reality to run the way it is without breaking. Completely different concept. You learn more about it by delving into magick and energy work and other related practices.

Q: “Is it possible to experience it?”

A: You’re already experiencing it right now.

Q: “Where does it go when the body dies?”
A: Again, the soul is not attached to the body. It can’t go anywhere because it is reality itself. This universe is within the soul, not the other way around.
Q: “Does it reincarnate?

A: Possibly. But I’d let go of traditional religious dogma that describe the rules of this reincarnation. I’d also let go of the idea that you’d just reincarnate in the same universe with the same laws just perceiving life through a different body. God is infinite and so is his creativity. It might not even make sense for him to experience the same “universe” twice.

[Aaron p]

christianity: the soul is the mind will and emotions.

Hinduism: the soul is the eternal part of what you are (what christianity calls the spirit). 

These terms are sometimes used interchangeably 

[Atb210201]

Your Soul is the space within you that transcends time, age, and the impermanence of matter.

It is the immortal fire that burns beyond all change, the purest substance that defines your true essence.

While the body shifts and the mind transforms, the Soul remains untouched, the guardian of your deepest wisdom and infinite potential.

To rediscover it is to remember who you have always been, beyond the illusions of earthly life.

(Not by me)

Edited Saturday at 01:30 AM by Atb210201

[TruthFreedom]

All I know is that you see it when you look into people's eyes sometimes.

[Breakingthewall]

On 15/1/2025 at 6:48 PM, gettoefl said:

For me, soul is the storehouse of consciousness that one brings forth at birth and during life either expands or contracts

That would be the karma. I think the soul is different than karma, it is the quality of what you are among infinite qualities. The quality is indefinable, it is the flavor of what you are, your frequency. there are infinite frequencies of infinite shades of the same substance. 

[Adrian colby]

I would like to weigh in on this discussion even if it was a while ago because I just got asked a question if all humans have a soul. It came after they attended a lecture where the speaker was going on about non-conscious players…

but if everything is consciousness, there’s no way that anything in existence is ‘not’ that. 
 

the only thing that is, is awareness that is the container and witness of everything created. What is created and to be known and explored is consciousness. the word consciousness means ‘with-knowing’.

so consciousness, is a self created mind within awareness. It has a masculine (conscious, thought/idea, penetrative, impressing) part and a feminine ( subconscious, ocean, womb, receptive, impressionable part) part. One impresses on the other creating a movement, like a stone thrown into still water creating ripples. Energy that moves/radiates. We label this energy emotion within us and emotion prompts us to take action and ‘do’ something or manifest into a reality that feeds back to us as perceptions. 

the manifest reality can be described as the child that results from the interaction between the masculine and femanine aspects of the mind. The child is like a pattern that emerges from the ocean of consciousness. 
 

none of the forms that arise are the awareness which is the absolute truth witnessing it all but the question is, the part that retains impressions and uses it to evolve the mind. 
 

I would say as awareness is the totology, consciousness is an infinite mind which some call god and it is the god/mind/head that evolves while awareness stays the same. As everything created, experienced, perceived, is consciousness, there can’t be anything in the creation that is not “a conscious player”. 
 

what I think the speaker is saying is that some people are consciously aware of themselves but some people are not consciously aware of themselves but they make the mistake of equating this to some people having no soul or animating force. 
 

I suspect he’s trying to frame his reality in south a way as to dismiss certain types of people and so actually caught himself in a dualistic mindset that is related to this ‘great awakening’ pseudo Christian conspiracy. 
 

any thoughts?

[Ishanga]

Language/Logic obviously will fail to describe such things as Soul/Atman/God/Absolute, since words are based on logic, logic on intellect, intellect is ruled by Identification, which is the main problem in the Human Today, too identified with this or that, to defragmented, separated from What Is..but here it goes..

Soul is just God/Absolute within You Embodied, its covered with layers, and it can be experienced, its a sort of Grand Intelligence, not the calculating type of Intelligence, rather the sort of Intelligence that allows what makes up the fundamental aspect of Creation to be as it iis, an Atom turns into what You Experience Yourself to be right Now as a Human, and all the other life forms and non living forms possible.. Its too complex, to sophisticated to be explained or understood by the Human Mind, its that sort of Intelligence and much more..It makes all Potential and Possibility come to Life!

Like a Bubble full of Air, Soul is the Air, we are the Bubble, the layer surrounding the Air, it is the Body/Mind/Emotions and Energy kept together via the Karmic Glue, we think we are these layers but we are really the Air (Soul/God/Atman), it is just we are Embodied and here to play out this Potential/Possibility game so Absolute can know itself and experience itself in Trillions of ways over Trillions of Years, then it dies and restarts again! 

If You realize You are the Air, then the bubble burst and your merge with the rest of the Air (Absolute) and lose all individuality, if You do not realize You are the Air, then the Bubble never really burst, it just transforms into another bubble based on actions performed unconsciously or consciously, that is your Free Will to decide how the Bubble will be or even if it is created again!

Edited Monday at 01:51 PM by Ishanga