Why Does Demonizing Another Perspective Put You At a Low Perspective Yourself?

[Thought Art]

I received an email from Bryan Johnson which reminded me of Leo’s invite to the recent homework assignment…. 
 

The reason demonizing another perspective automatically means you are operating from a lower perspective is that demonizing another perspective is caused by fear, doubt, anger, which are survival mechanisms of the mind. For various reasons a person would demonize another perspective. Generally, I would assume that I would demonize perspectives that are of physical, emotional, or metaphysical threat to me. That threat largely being change. 
 

People demonize other perspectives because: 

1. They are trying to survive as a finite ego or self. 

2. They don’t have a holistic understanding of the other perspective. If they did they would be using objective/ Being observation and not needy observation . 

3. Highest forms of perspective use being observation and looks at the  world as if it wasn’t there solely to serve its survival and needs 

4. Higher perspectives can attempt to see situations from multiple interpretations, multiple perspectives, 

5. Higher perspectives are more peace and wellness oriented as a result of education, personal development, spiritual development, introspection, maturation, truth facing and demonization is seen as an unfavourable framing and set of interpretations which is one of many. It is also soaked in anger, story telling, assumption, projection, fear, doubt, etc 

6. When you demonize you often give it as an excuse to not listen to that perspective directly, to truthfully consider the perspective, to feel the discomfort of what truly seeing the perspective may cause you. Taking different perspectives can be painful, scary, and ambivalent. This often leads to the excuse to gossip, story tell, share interpretations to your in group of fellow perspective Demonizers, ie eco chambers of demonization. 
 

7. Truthfully considering a perspective requires pain endurance in some contexts. Demonizing defends against that pain. Demonizing feels good, Truth facing Feels bad. 
 

8. Demonization is factually wrong because you are dealing with another human, not a demon. Humans are simply another version of you. 
 

9. Demonization is usually emotionally driven at its core. Higher perspectives come from a calm, cantered, grounded, patient, clear, sober, integrated, educated and objective mind. 
 

10. Cognitive laziness. To truly consider another perspective requires focused attention, effort, intention to see truthfully, patience…. Demonization is generally reactive, not deeply contemplated, emotional, limited, biased, full of cognitive errors and self deceptions, not seeing the full picture, etc 

11. People demonize others because they are simply going along with the herd. Others are doing it and so they join in. 
 

12. People demonize so they can feel right, good, correct, smart, intelligent, justified, clairvoyant, truthful, safe. 

hmmm 

Edited yesterday at 05:37 AM by Thought Art

[Hojo]

Probably the same reason you dont demonize thoughts. They arent there.

[Thought Art]

@Hojo I don’t think your response is quite what I mean by the topic. Or, can you explain?

Edited yesterday at 05:27 AM by Thought Art

[LoneWonderer]

@Thought Art

Edited 22 hours ago by LoneWonderer

[numbersinarow]

It doesn't, that just sounds appealing to stage blue people.

[Nivsch]

When you demonize you get a dopamine release that masks your inner 'demon' - the unhealead neuro-psych battle you are facing. By that you show that your system isn't fully in synch with itself yet.

Edited 20 hours ago by Nivsch

[Basman]

Demonization is essentially a form of close-mindedness. How can you understand a perspective if your not even willing to consider it valid?

Edit: Actually, I don't think demonization is inherently close-mindedness. Its simply to portray something as terrible. You could demonize something from above, like for example the holocaust. Demoinzation from above would be careful to not overdo demonization such that you start distorting what it is your demonizing. Demonization from below doesn't hold any obligation to understanding what it is demonizing.

Edited 14 hours ago by Basman

[Raphael]

It doesn't always put you at a low perspective.

In most cases, demonizing comes from the lower self and close-mindedness, so it puts someone at a low level.

However, as perspectives have unequal qualities, not all demonizing is the same. It's possible to demonize consciously. Demonizing a toxic perspective is a great thing as it helps to keep it away from infecting the mainstream. Demonizing nazism is a great thing because nazism is a toxic view + it doesn't put me in a low position to do it.

[Thought Art]

@Raphael Are you sure? 

[Raphael]

6 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Raphael Are you sure? 

Yes.

[Thought Art]

@Raphael When you are demonizing Nazism did you ever look at it objectively? 
 

Is demonizing nazism a higher perspective compared to one that doesn’t demonize but seeks genuine understanding?

When I see Nazism as a lower perspective, I do so without demonization. I do not think you can consciously demonize. To demonize is to only see the bad, to be afraid of, to be angry at, to see evil in, usually because you wanna survive. 
 

A higher perspective would be able to truthfully, fearlessly contemplate and observe nazism from mutplie perspectives and lenses including why the demonization of nazism happens. 

Edited 22 hours ago by Thought Art

[The Crocodile]

The funny thing with this is that Leo calls people The Devil (literally). So devilizing is okay but demonizing isn't?

[Hojo]

@Thought Art Thoughts come from your mind out of nowhere if you react negatively to them you demonize yourself. Thoughts come to people out of no where if they demonize the thought they demonize themselves. Now the thought that creates a personality comes out of a another human these are thoughts they want to portrait. They are still your thoughts coming from you in a different dimension. Not only that but demonizing something attaches yourself to it dosent matter what it is. Reality can be seen is a copy of mind and thought coming from other people.

Edited 21 hours ago by Hojo

[Thought Art]

47 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

The funny thing with this is that Leo calls people The Devil (literally). So devilizing is okay but demonizing isn't?

Good point. Though, I do believe subtle distinctions can exist here. 
 

Devilry is essentially selfishness and the result of lower perspective. Demonizing however is attributing bad Intention without understanding full the other side.

[Thought Art]

Higher and lower are also relativistic terms. Perhaps calling people devils can be done from higher or lower positions and the highest of perspective would consider any calling people devils a lower perspective.

[The Crocodile]

Higher and lower perspective implies that devils exist.

[Thought Art]

@The Crocodile Not necessarily. I wouldn't say it implies it absolutely.  

[Thought Art]

@LoneWonderer Hey, sorry I didn't respond to your post directly right away. 

I think it's worth approaching demonizing others, and being honest with ourselves when we do it and see others do it. Self compassion, introspection, curiosity, patience are all key. 

[The Crocodile]

2 hours ago, Thought Art said:

@The Crocodile Not necessarily. I wouldn't say it implies it absolutely.  

The highest of perspectives very well could consider The Devil to be real.

Or that demons or dark entities literally exist.

[Thought Art]

@The Crocodile hmm, I disagree. 

Edited 14 hours ago by Thought Art