Andrew Tate uk prime minister ?

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Twentyfirst said:

They don't have crime. How terrible

Yes, china, as everyone know, is the paradise in earth, and all the Chinese have a great mental health and satisfaction about life. 

[Twentyfirst]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes, china, as everyone know, is the paradise in earth, and all the Chinese have a great mental health and satisfaction about life. 

If you listen to western propaganda. You will think that you are the most free and happy people. And that everyone else is a slave that needs to be saved by your superiority. 

This is literally the first posts I made on this thread that started the conversation

Edited Monday at 03:22 PM by Twentyfirst

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

@Twentyfirst Yeah yeah everything from the west is a propaganda, west is evil, west started all the wars, west did this and that, blah blah blah

Everything and anything to mantain a collective victim mentality and shift the blame to the west, while yall are objectively worse IN EVERY CONCEIVABLE MEASURABLE METRIC. Even in wealth.

Since you failed to respond with anything even resembling a well structured data-based objective answer, I think I am done here

[Twentyfirst]

2 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

@Twentyfirst Yeah yeah everything from the west is a propaganda, west is evil, west started all the wars, west did this and that, blah blah blah

Everything and anything to mantain a collective victim mentality and shift the blame to the west, while yall are objectively worse IN EVERY CONCEIVABLE MEASURABLE METRIC. Even in wealth.

Since you failed to respond with anything even resembling a well structured data-based objective answer, I think I am done here

Okay, have fun being ruled by idiots. If you are so smart then why does an idiot like Trump run your life? How did you get yourself in such a subservient position. What about Epstein pedo island and all the presidents hanging out with him? You should be smarter than letting the pedo mafia own you

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

If you listen to western propaganda. You will think that you are the most free and happy people. And that everyone else is a slave that needs to be saved by your superiority. 

This is literally the first posts I made on this thread that started the conversation

I know some Chinese girls who live in my country quite good. Chinese are interesting to me. Their family and friendship dynamics are very strange, they have many barriers and generally they think that their country is a real shithole full of obsessive, stressed and very traumatized materialistic people and the best idea is never return there

[Twentyfirst]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

I know some Chinese girls who live in my country quite good. Chinese are interesting to me. Their family and friendship dynamics are very strange, they have many barriers and generally they think that their country is a real shithole full of obsessive, stressed and very traumatized materialistic people and the best idea is never return there

Let go of the Chinese. Look at the entire world. It's unthinkable to you that there are countries out there with peace, happiness, respect, good leaders and laws, ethics. You think you invented freedom and human rights and before that nobody ever respected the individual. Crazy levels of supremacism 

[zazen]

13 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

while yall are objectively worse IN EVERY CONCEIVABLE MEASURABLE METRIC. Even in wealth.

https://www.ft.com/content/f71a3570-020f-4c43-a0ab-7143f5f9fd98

Edited Monday at 03:39 PM by zazen

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Let go of the Chinese. Look at the entire world. It's unthinkable to you that there are countries out there with peace, happiness, respect, good leaders and laws, ethics. You think you invented freedom and human rights and before that nobody ever respected the individual. Crazy levels of supremacism 

Well, I prefer living in Europe than China or Iran, but if you like living in Afghanistan you could emigrate there if you want 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

@zazen I meant muslim countries in that instance. Yeah, China is something else tho, obviously. It's the most powerfull opponent of the west by far, definitely a lot more powerfull than Russia

I assume no sound human - except that troll over there - considers it a good country to live in, right? Right?!?

Edited Monday at 04:02 PM by NewKidOnTheBlock

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

@zazen I meant muslim countries in that instance. Yeah, China is something else tho, obviously. It's the most powerfull opponent of the west by far, definitely a lot more powerfull than Russia

Mostly just because of Population size. 1.4 billion population , 1 party/kind of dictatorship can obviously be very powerful.

[Twentyfirst]

21 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Well, I prefer living in Europe than China or Iran, but if you like living in Afghanistan you could emigrate there if you want 

Meanwhile. You never even went to China or Iran

You are like the sheep who hears of enlightenment from a random actualized video and says "oh those crazies...yeah I know all about them"

Even if you visit other countries you are so close minded you will perceive it differently with western supremacy lenses 

[Twentyfirst]

7 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

@zazen I meant muslim countries in that instance. Yeah, China is something else tho, obviously. It's the most powerfull opponent of the west by far, definitely a lot more powerfull than Russia

I assume no sound human - except that troll over there - considers it a good country to live in, right? Right?!?

Why are China and Russia your opponents? What do you have against all those people? You want them to die? Opponents means enemies. Enemies means you hate them. Why?

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

6 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Why are China and Russia your opponents? What do you have against all those people? You want them to die? Opponents means enemies. Enemies means you hate them. Why?

They are our opponents geopolitically because they are acting against our interests just like we are acting against their interests. And it's definitely how they view us as well. I don't know if you were born yersterday or something LOL

[Twentyfirst]

5 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

They are our opponents geopolitically because they are acting against our interests just like we are acting against their interests. And it's definitely how they view us as well. I don't know if you were born yersterday or something LOL

How are they acting against your interests? 

The west acts against EVERYONES interests. Even "allies" it supports and gives money to such as Ukraine or Israel 

Is it like how George Bush manipulated you all into invading Iraq because they built WMD's and wanting to attack America because they were jealous of americas freedom. All so Bush could use your military and support to invade a country to steal the oil. Meanwhile the entire world knew it was a lie and tried to warn the american public but they refused to listen because "brown bad guy must be terrorist"?

Tell me again how blowing up a Chinese farmer on the other side of the world that makes 2 dollars a day will keep you safe because I was just born yesterday and am very forgetful of history 

Edited Monday at 04:20 PM by Twentyfirst

[Breakingthewall]

17 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Meanwhile. You never even went to China or Iran

You are like the sheep who hears of enlightenment from a random actualized video and says "oh those crazies...yeah I know all about them"

Even if you visit other countries you are so close minded you will perceive it differently with western supremacy lenses 

Maybe, I just prefer that if I want to use a drug they don't condemn me to death, but I admit that it's just my preference

[PurpleTree]

Guys stop quoting the guy otherwise i have to put everyone on ignore to not see the stupid posts.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

@Twentyfirst I'm not going to answer you on any of these points because you have a clear anti western bias. It's just so evident and clear. You also love to be a slave of authoritarian society. So maybe you should move there if you love them so much. China is the pinacle of what such a society can possibly offer, it's as authoritarian and Orwelian as it can possibly get if we exclude countries such as North Korea and Eritrea.

As far as I'm concerned, from a bigger picture standpoint, this is a debate of relativism vs absolutism. You, already believing that your structure of society is already the best and me believing that mine is the best. What you are doing is you are using relativism against me to beat my arguments, but my arguments are based on data. Then you use relativism again that those data are somehow wrong because the universeties happen to be situated in a western country. But that's not a valid argument, because in that case you are basically admitting that if those same markers or other markers were measured by your country, they would also be wrong because they'd be skewed by your country's ideology.

Then you try to dismiss those markers altogether and just use a bunch of whataboutisms about the west, purely based on your subjective feelings. And that's where we ended it, pretty much. So, since in this debate you failed to provide anything objective to justify your relativism, I objectively came up on top of this

Edited Monday at 04:44 PM by NewKidOnTheBlock

[Twentyfirst]

8 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Guys stop quoting the guy otherwise i have to put everyone on ignore to not see the stupid posts.

"Don't have conversations with him. He is hurting my supremacist ego with his words. I would rather live blindly"

[Twentyfirst]

Just now, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

@Twentyfirst I'm not going to answer you on any of these points because you have a clear anti western bias. It's just so evident and clear. You also love to be a slave of authoritarian society. So maybe you should move there if you love them so much. China is the pinacle of what such a society can possibly offer, it's as authoritarian and Orwelian as it can possibly get if we exclude countries such as North Korea and Eritrea.

As far as I'm concerned, from a bigger picture standpoint, this is a debate of relativism vs absolutism. You, already believing that your structure of society is already the best and me believing that mine is the best. What you are doing is you are using relativism against me to beat my arguments, but my arguments are based on data. Then you use relativism again that those data are somehow wrong because the universeties happen to be situated in a western country. But that's not a valid argument, because in that case you are basically admitting that if those same markers or other markers were measured by your country, it would also be wrong because they're skewed by your coyntry's ideology.

Then you try to dismiss those markers altogether and just use a bunch of whataboutisms about the west, purely based on your subjective feelings. And that's where we ended it, pretty much. So, since in this debate you failed to provide anything objective to justify your relativism, I objectively came up on top of this

Bro nobody lives in an authoritarian society here. Monarchy is fine. The UK used to be a monarchy ya know? In fact they still have one

Im not anti western. Im anti western propaganda and violence. The west has a few good things about it

Im not saying my society is the best. Im saying the entire world is pretty much the same across the board. Its only the west that inverted itself and then calls the rest of the world crazy savages 

 

[abundance]

This timeline is so stupid.