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Critique My Idea For A Eugenic State

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On 1/24/2025 at 9:39 AM, RendHeaven said:

Emerald has a blatant female POV bias but you can't fault her for that, if you were a woman you would be the same.

It's not part of her job description to deeply sympathize with male pain, the same way it's not part of your job description to deeply sympathize with female pain. Obviously it would be nice if this bridge could be crossed, but that's more of a luxury. Both sides are blameless.

If I was a woman I would not necessarily be the same. Plenty of women can see things from a male perspective.

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On 1/24/2025 at 11:07 AM, RendHeaven said:

Disagree with what? You think women are at fault and have blame?

Who cares what people think? Stop letting people dictate your "job description"

I disagree with the idea that both genders are blameless, when society doesn't treat it that way.

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22 hours ago, Emerald said:

I think you mean MGTOW not Incels.

What I'm talking about is very different than men who claim to avoid women to make their life better because they're saying they're avoiding women altogether. And that dynamic comes from overgeneralizing women and misogynistic feelings.

But I would never avoid men altogether because there are plenty of men that are great people. And I am very blessed to have a lot of wonderful men in my life. And I am not a misandrist.

I just naturally have learned to sort (men and women) from my social circle when they have qualities that aren't conducive to my own well-being. These are skills you learn early on as a woman.

And if you don't learn to sort properly, it will be at your own peril.

And if men give off misogynistic vibes, then I avoid getting close to them. I don't even have to consciously try to do it. It's just automatic.

And you have every right to do that. However, before you do, make sure you aren't prematurely/misjudging someone because they give off the "vibe" of a misogynist but aren't actually a misogynist, that's all.

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22 hours ago, Emerald said:

Romantic partners are wise to listen to and empathize with their partners' pain.

But I don't know if that's an actual double standard that exists in the direction of men where men have to sympathize with their partners and not the other way around.

My guess is that, if you polled a bunch of heterosexual couples, the woman would probably be the one doing the majority of the empathizing, emotional labor, and communication-related stuff in the relationship.

Men who don't do "empathizing, emotional labor, and communication-related stuff" don't tend to last in relationships nowadays or even get into one. What you're saying might've been true in the 20th century but not in the 21st century.

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6 hours ago, EternalForest said:

I disagree with the idea that both genders are blameless, when society doesn't treat it that way.

So women are at fault because society is not fair to men?


It's Love.

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12 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

So women are at fault because society is not fair to men?

I wouldn't use the term "fault". The situation is: expectations of men are unfairly higher, and their critiques of women aren't welcome. All of society (both men and women), perpetuate this.

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