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[Nivsch]

11 hours ago, Yimpa said:

Who is determining what is a lower perspective and a higher perspective?

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[ryandesreu]

Let's just say that Actualized teachings is of greater p. Now, I'm beating a child and forcing him to learn Actualized right now. That now magically makes the teachings lower p? I think not. How do you know that the beatings aren't already happening for Actualized learnings? You can't know, so, therefore you can't know that the teachings are of higher p?? No.

Knowing that children are being beaten to learn the teachings tarnishes the teachings appearance in the public eye, but it does not tarnish the teachings themselves. 

I see where you're coming from, but I also see the validity of the perspective written above. @Leo Gura

[Terell Kirby]

Contemplating .. lower perspectives is basically a lower mind (or stems from lower mind). It helps me to use these interchangeably, also opens up the door to acknowledging how lower can develop to higher .. so as to not write lower off as forever doomed and dismiss it entirely.

Thoughts? @Leo Gura & others

[Yimpa]

50 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

opens up the door to acknowledging how lower can develop to higher .. so as to not write lower off as forever doomed and dismiss it entirely.

There is a good reason why we use fiber connection and no longer dial-up. Yet dial-up was necessary to learn how to create fiber. But, also, you wouldn't really desire or care to go back to dial-up once you integrate fiber.

[Terell Kirby]

13 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

There is a good reason why we use fiber connection and no longer dial-up. Yet dial-up was necessary to learn how to create fiber. But, also, you wouldn't really desire or care to go back to dial-up once you integrate fiber.

Mind of Dial Up (from a low perspective): "fiber? Sounds like a conspiracy, some woo woo nonsense! Must be a trans thing .. or maybe DEI bullshit".

Edited Tuesday at 01:43 AM by Terell Kirby

[Twentyfirst]

@Leo Gura How do we know which higher perspective teachings to master according to what profession we want? What if we want to be vastly different things like a CEO, or a politician, or famous entertainer, or a family person? All these are very different but I can see the need for having higher perspective in each one. Or does each profession need the same subjects mastered?

[Vibes]

I extracted the transcript from the video, done a lot of editing to remove errors and made a list so I can read from time to time.

I tried to keep the original way Leo spoke and kept most examples but the transcription youtube provides is not very good to work with. Forgive grammar errors and punctuations errors. 

It's not perfect, but I think it captures well the points. 

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How To Distinguish Lower vs Higher Perspectives - Part 1

 

 

1. Lower perspectives are distinguished by a basic lack of Education reading and facts. Ignorance of basic history, science, physics…

 

2. Lower perspectives are misinformed they get information from lowquality sources and they just have the the facts wrong.

 

3. Lower perspectives lack experience in the domain about which they hold opinions or beliefs, they don't have the direct experience, they haven't actually done the thing, they haven't been to the place and yet they have opinions and beliefs about it.

 

4. Lower perspectives start with conclusions and seek confirmation of those conclusions. They reason backwards from their conclusions or what they need to be true.

 

5. Lower perspectives have a bad epistemology or no awareness of epistemology at all.

It's not enough to know a thing, you have to know how you know it and why you know that it's true.

 

6. Low perspectives are closed minded they're stubborn like an old mule. Refusing to open their minds to other possibilities.

 

7. Low perspectives simply don't care about the truth. There's zero interest in truth, doesn't take the truth seriously but there's a little extra twist, which is that even though these people or these perspectives don't care about the truth at all they don't announce that to you. In fact they posture as caring about truth.

So very ironically the people who care about the truth the least will make a big deal of caring about the truth and they will say that the truth is on their side.

 

8. Lower perspectives have some other agenda besides truth or pure understanding. There's something else that they're after, they want salvation or they want happiness, they want security for their family, they want a job, they want money, they want fame, they want sex, they want status, they want to be a preacher, they want to be looked up in their Community, they want to defend their Community, something like that which is different than truth and pure understanding.

 

9. Lower perspectives have low intellectual curiosity.

There's not a care for learning and if there is learning, it's motivated by an agenda.

“I'm learning arguments against my enemies and my opponents so that I can defeat them in a debate”. That's not genuine learning, that's not genuine inquiry.

 

10. Lower perspectives also have a lack of intellectual integrity. For a lower perspective truth is defined as anything that serves some emotional need or survival need that the perspective or the individual has.

 

11. Lower perspectives lack responsibility. There's just a fundamental avoidance of responsibility

and intellectual responsibility.

Taking responsibility in life in general is difficult and requires maturity that's one of the Hallmarks of maturity.

How much responsibility you're willing to take in life, but there's this other aspect of responsibility - intellectual responsibility, which means how much responsibility do you take for the Integrity of your own mind and intellect to train it to educate it to look for contradictions within your own worldview.

 

12. Lower perspectives are resistant to new information.

They tend to reject it, deny it and use various kinds of mechanisms. They tend to ignore, dismiss, dodge and rationalize away contradictory evidence.

 

13. Lower perspectives have an inability to admit mistakes, because if you admit one mistake the whole thing starts to unravel or at least that's how the mind can feel.

There's a sort of a tendency of not wanting to admit mistakes because you need your worldview to be perfect and of course that then makes you very defensive because any one little mistake could be the end of your worldview and so there's a sort of a fragility. Lower perspectives are fragile in this way.

 

14. Lower perspectives have an inability to change one's view in light of new evidence.

That's closed-mindedness - an incapability of seriously considering different points of view; lack of desire even, to consider a different point of view.

 

15. Lower perspectives are unable to see partial truth in other perspectives.

 

16. Lower perspectives are characteristically overconfident in their knowledge and in their beliefs and

they overcompensate and then act that out.

 

17. Lower perspectives make many groundless assumptions and they don't question their assumptions.

 

18. Lower perspectives are prone to magical thinking, superstition and being faith-based.

This is where intuition can really get you into trouble because a lot of pre- rational people they will convince themselves that they're more than rational because they're so intuitive and then this intuition is never checked against reality.

One of the characteristics of low quality perspectives is that they don't actually test themselves, they're resistant to falsification, their perspective is designed in such a way that they can't be disproven because they're tautological. They're held as true and then rationalized backwards.

All sorts of cherry-picking of data and evidence happens to validate their beliefs and dodging mechanisms are used to avoid falsification. There is no interest and there's no responsibility taken to falsify one's own perspective, this is where intellectual responsibility comes in.

 

Your mind will come up with all sorts of bad intuitions and bad ideas and bad beliefs you're going to have to sort through that by a long arduous process.

 

19. Lower perspectives reject empirical evidence.

They are often not even interested in empirical evidence, they tend to also be absolutistic. When they believe something they absolutely believe it with 100% certainty.

 

20. Lower perspectives tend to be monopolistic, they want to monopolize knowledge, they want a monopolistic worldview. And all other points of view are wrong.

 

21. Lower perspectives have an inability to recognize and appreciate subtle distinctions and nuance.

The mind's ability to make finer and finer distinctions is an honest signal of the quality of the mind, so a low quality mind has very gross and sloppy distinctions and therefore makes a lot of mistakes.

 

22. Lower perspectives are very conformist.

The mind picks the first worldview or perspective or ideology that comes its way.

 

23. Lower perspectives adopt a cookie cutter worldview from pop culture.

They're too in touch with pop culture and this leads to worldviews that are basically memes perspectives. Thinking in cliches.

 

24. Another Hallmark of Low quality perspectives is low mental autonomy.

Fundamentally what's going on is that the mind is not independent, it is in meshed with its culture and its social circle and its tribe. Low mental autonomy means it's reliant on authority figures and consensus and fitting in, which means that there's a lack of basic questioning, a lack of independence of mind and low questioning of authority.

Example: Maga. They think they're challenging authority but not really because they’re subscribing to the authority of Trump and it's becoming a trump cult.

 

25. Low quality perspectives speak reflexively without pausing to think. They speak in cliches and talking points and engage in endless unconscious speech.

To be able to speak intelligently about any domain accurately, to make sense of that domain and then to communicate it to others is much more difficult than people know.

 

 

26. Lower perspectives try to convince others.

One of the tell signs of the ego mind is that when it doesn't really know something, it overcompensates and it acts like it does.

 

27. Another feature of lower perspectives is ethnocentrism, tribalism and extreme

ingroup bias. Us versus them mentality, loyalty to your team.

Your top priority is the survival of your tribe.

 

28. Lower quality perspectives have narrow self-centered ethical Frameworks.

They have a low scope of consideration, a narrow focus on immediate and personal concerns their whole thing is to maximize gain for self and for tribe at the expense of others and the environment.

Lower from higher is also distinguished by how selfish you are, the more selfish you are the lower you're going to be, the less selfish the higher you're going to be and selfishness here doesn't just

pertain to you individually but also to your tribe.

 

29. Another characteristic of lower perspectives is your concern is primarily on social survival and fitting in within some kind of social circle.

You're adopting beliefs to fit in with your friend circle or with your online forum community that you're part of or your family or your church because the reality for most people is that truth doesn't matter, what matters is fitting into their social circle.

As long as you can fit in at work you can get deals you can make money, you can get promoted, you can climb the corporate hierarchy. With your friends you can get lovers, relationships and sex have children and reproduce, that's all survival stuff. It gets you feeling emotions of love that's beautiful for you.

 

30. Lower quality perspectives use worldview and perspective as a survival tool primarily in order to get money, fame, sex, approval, love, power, success and influence.

There's no real interest in truth, that's what it's used for and that's what a lot of Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Hindus use their religion for.

Primarily human religion is not about God it's not about truth seeking it's not about salvation, it's about none of that stuff it's really about social fitting in that's why you go to church every week from going to church every week you develop social connections, you develop, friendships, you develop business connections, you develop lovers, and you get sex.

 

31. Lower perspectives have a high degree of emotional attachment.

This is a really critical honest signal that you can't fake.

Lower perspectives get angry, they get emotional, they get very defensive, they're easily offended, they're easily triggered, they're easily threatened because what they have is ideological attachment and that ideology is serving some sort of more basic survival, they're using the ideology to survive.

 

32. Lower perspectives are egocentric, they're infested with egoic attachment, they're narcissistic, they're very fragile to criticism.

They take criticism personally not as a point of improvement. If you were doing genuine truth seeking you would welcome criticism, you would welcome when somebody comes and points out a contradiction in your worldview.

 

33. Lower perspectives have a tendency to personalize disagreements because they're so based in ego.

They're so self-absorbed that everything is interpreted as personal because to them life is personal it's all about personally, defending yourself, defending your personal relationships with other people and within your community, they’re not living universally they’re living selfishly.

 

34. Lower perspectives have a tendency towards aggressive arrogance, pride moral righteousness and crusading.

Let's go on a crusade to smite the evildoers, the evil ones, the wicked ones. But this is an externalization of what should really be an introspective process, what needs to happen here is rather than being morally righteous you got to look at your own moral failings. This would be the proper mature approach of a higher perspective.

 

35. Lower perspectives tend to be highly opinionated and take one's own opinions too seriously they're unwilling to let go of it of their own opinions.

 

36. Lower perspectives are eager to debate, argue, win and own others.

This with the sort of online debate bro culture “we got to own the other side” it's this tribal team mentality. You can experience this in yourself if you've ever argued or debated with anybody you've felt a certain pleasure when you're winning in a debate and also you feel a sick displeasure when you're losing.

 

37. Lower perspectives are based on Lower emotions.

This is a huge Connecting Point, lower perspectives are based on fear, hatred, resentment, bitterness, nihilism, vindictiveness, xenophobia, cynicism and energetically they feel

negative, bitter, toxic and angry.

Anger is a huge one. If somebody or some perspective is coming from a place of anger this is a huge telltale sign it's a lower perspective. For example, watch a speech of Hitler and just listen

to it in the original German you don't need to even know what he's saying, but just listen to the anger, the bitterness, the negativity, the vindictiveness, the xenophobia, the resentment, the hatred that he is dishing out and intuitively you should be able to feel that that is wrong.

Now why is your intuition right about that being wrong, that's a deeper question. “What if my intuition is wrong?” that's something for you to contemplate again why is it that anger puts you in a lower perspective?

“Why can't you have a very high sophisticated understanding of reality and also be deeply angry as

Hitler was?”, “Why can't those two things mesh together?”

 

38. Lower perspectives are selfish, self-serving, manipulative and exploitative.

They seek to extract value. It's about extraction of value.

For example, Andrew Tate has a certain worldview about men, about women, about society and he postures as though he's some sort of champion of truth but that's not what's going on. What's going on there is that he's acting narcissistically, self-servingly to manipulate not only the people who follow him but even himself, to extract value from the men who follow him and the women who he deals with and who he employs in his business. He extracts value from them financially but also sexually and in

other ways.

It's about extracting value. He's a master at extracting value from men and from women. That's

Andrew Tate's game and then everything he speaks is just noise to serve that function.

 

39. Lower perspectives are authoritarian in their style.

“Why does authoritarianism correspond with a lower perspective, why can't a really conscious highly cognitively developed truthful mind be authoritarian?”

It's because to be able to dominate somebody else and domination can take many forms, it could be sexual domination, physical domination, political domination, geopolitical domination, invasion of a country, assassinating somebody, beating them up, stealing their girlfriend, even beating a dog. Or it can be intellectual domination, it could be terrorism. Why is this slower lower not higher?

Because to do any of these things you'd have to hold yourself as somehow fundamentally above or more important than whoever you're dominating. You believe you're entitled to dominate them, if you're dominating your wife in a relationship you believe you're more important than her, you're better than her, you know better, your agenda is more important, her opinions don't matter, her beliefs don't matter.

This is pure selfishness, pure self-absorption, you're so self-absorbed that you want the entire world and everybody in it to conform to your personal needs, emotional needs. Everybody in the world is just a tool to serve your own emotional needs they are there to please you sexually, to solve your horniness

problems, to give you money, they're there to give you applause and praise.

Donald Trump during the Iraq War published an article in some magazine, where he made a case for stealing the Iraqi oil. Why not if we're in Iraq already just take all their oil…

 

40. Lower perspectives have low empathy.

It takes a lot of cognitive development to actually inhabit the perspectives of other people besides your own because you have to step outside your own step into theirs and see reality from their eyes. It’s emotionally challenging to do that, it's much easier not to be empathetic because if you're not empathetic you can kill somebody and not care. If you actually are conscious of the suffering you're causing others you won't be able to kill them.

 

41. Lower perspectives are prone to conspiratorial thinking because they're avoiding responsibility.

What is the real driver of conspiracy theories? It's an avoidance of responsibility that's the psychological function that it serves.

Conspiracy theories come in all sorts of flavors with all sorts of content but what is the structure of conspiracy theories? What its purpose? Its purpose is to give you a oversimplified narrative to make sense of something without independently thinking about it. You're grabbing it from some pop

cultural source, even though it's a conspiracy theory and it's sort of out of the mainstream it's still all

Conformity. You're not really thinking and on top of that, it allows you to avoid responsibility because now you don't have to seriously think about how the world really works. Now what you can do is focus on scapegoating and blaming others.

Low perspectives would rather blame than take responsibility, everyone's doing something wrong to you except yourself.

A high perspective takes responsibility for all this and doesn't blame anybody and goes on making sense of reality from that point of view, and that's a lot harder.

 

42. Lower perspectives are also uncharitable to alternative views.

Misrepresenting them, engage in strawmanning. A lower perspective is going

to strawman other perspectives.

If you ask a fundamentalist Christian to present in good faith an alternative to Christianity such as Islam they will not be able to do it. They're simply going to be incapable of it because their mind doesn't even understand Islam well enough to be able to render it in a charitable reasonable sane way.

 

43. Lower perspectives use cheap and intellectually dishonest tactics such as gaslighting, whataboutism, bullshitting, lying, cheating, name calling, denial, counterattack, dodging questions and false equivalency.

 

44. Lower perspective uses Charisma Bluster and bombast as a substitute for truth or inquiry.

 

45. Lower quality perspectives uses a lot of double standards.

When you have intellectual Integrity you don't allow double standards in your mind.

For example, science wants everything to be proven in order to be believed. But then there's a double standard because the scientific method itself cannot be proven because you can't know that everything, all phenomenon in the universe can be discovered through scientific method. That's not

something you prove or science has ever proven, that's just an assumption, that's a belief. If you were really intellectually integrous you would recognize that there's a double standard at play within science.

 

46. Lower perspectives are engaged in intellectual maneuvers and mental gymnastics.

Lower perspectives are extremely biased. They embrace the them.

 

47. Lower perspectives conflate facts and data with interpretations.

A lot of stuff that people who hold a low perspective will call just the facts, are not the facts. They're interpretations and the mind needs to be able to distinguish between facts and data and interpretations. This takes development work to develop that kind of capacity and you also need to care to distinguish them. It's very convenient in many cases not to distinguish the difference between facts and interpretations because everybody wants to present their interpretations as facts.

 

48. Lower perspectives conflate one's own survival with truth, goodness and objectivity.

 

49. Lower perspectives also do a reification of human constructs.

They take what are human constructs and then they reify them, turn them into Universal object. Christianity is a human construct but it's reified as actual reality, some sort of higher Divine reality.

Science is also a human construct, capitalism is a human construct.

Those perspectives succumb to what’s called the anthropocentric bias which means that there's an overemphasis on the human-centric style of explanations, everything is explained or made sense of in terms of petty small narrow human biases and perspective.

 

 

50. Lower perspectives generalize without regard for context treating facts as independent of context. It lacks context awareness.

 

51. Lower perspectives do not check sources, they don't bother to do research or factchecking just assumes that everything's true.

Echo chambers get develop; cherry picking research and factchecking as confirmation. They say they do factchecking but what you really mean is that you just do the factchecking and the research that confirms what you already want to believe.

Doing objective research and factchecking is quite challenging, you have to have a lot of intellectual Integrity to do that, and you also have to be very epistemically aware you have to understand the quality of different sources.

 

52. Lower perspectives have an inability to distinguish between correlation and causation.

A lower mind sees that black people score lower on IQ tests and says ‘oh well that's because of course black people are genetically inferior intellectually’.

But it could mean a lot of other things. It could mean for example that black people have been historically disadvantaged and don't have enough money to send their children to better schools that doesn't mean their intelligence is genetically inferior it just means they haven't been going to different schools for cultural reasons. Which could be corrected.

Or it might mean that they don't get the the right kind of nutrition and the nutrition has an effect on development of the brain, so it's not that their genetics are inferior it's just that if you give them good nutrition the way that affluent people get then their IQs will equalize… And it could mean many other things right so this is the difference between correlation and causation.

 

53. Lower perspectives are also characterized by a misattribution of causality. They incorrectly identify causes and effects. Sometimes you see some sort of relationship between several variables but you can get the causes and effects wrong.

For example some antivaxer might say ‘well you know I know a couple of people in my family who took the vaccine and they died’ or ‘they had a heart attack’ or ‘they had some sort of complication’.

But again just because you take a vaccine and you have a heart attack does not mean that the vaccine

caused the heart attack there could be a lot of other variables there. The heart attack could have been caused not by the vacine but for example by the stress that was created from losing your job because of the lockdowns...

But an antivaxer is so locked into the antiva agenda that they don't care about these subtle cause and effect things, in their mind they already know that the vaccine causes lots of deaths and then everything that they do is reasoning backwards from that conclusion and the whole ‘vaccines cause autism’ happen. Again, just because you have an autistic child who got a vaccine does not mean that the vaccine caused the autism. There's a lot of very complex factors there that need to be sorted out which is why rigorous scientific research and double blind studies and all that kind of stuff is necessary. But a lower quality perspective doesn't trust science.

 

54. Lower quality perspectives also oversimplify causality tending to attribute complex events to simple singular causes.

For example they might say ‘now that Biden is in power there's a war in Ukraine and during Donald Trump's time there was no war’ this kind of simplistic causality.

 

55. Lower perspectives also have do a misattribution of agency. Incorrectly assigning intentionality to random or natural events.

For example, a common conspiracy that when there were fires in Hawaii that it was caused by some sort of government space satellite with Jewish lasers and we have people in Congress that believe this stuff. A natural event like a fire maybe was caused by some electrical line or somebody throwing a cigarette out the windo but no, a lowquality mind is very conspiratorial, it needs somebody to blame.

 

56. Low perspectives have an over reliance on anecdotal evidence and unreliable methods.

The antiva stuff, somebody who had some complication after the vaccine it's anecdotal evidence and then from that you extrapolate out thinking the vaccine is bad for everybody. Even if your friend died from the vaccine, that doesn't mean it's bad as a policy, doesn't mean it's bad for everybody. You haven't taken into account how many lives the vaccine has saved.

 

57. Lower perspectives are intolerant towards ambiguity and towards not knowing.

They need to know, they can't just leave things uncertain.

Low capacity for contradiction and paradox, inflexibility, rigid beliefs about the nature of reality and resistant to other ontologies.

Lower perspectives have a narrow scope focused on limited aspects of reality while ignoring broader

context. It's much easier to make sense of reality when you only focus on a small sliver of it and not making sense of larger things; the more of reality you have to make sense of the harder it gets.

Lower quality minds will actually make it artificially easy for themselves by limiting the field of consideration for themselves, for example a scientist working in some sort of laboratory doesn't need to think about all of reality, only needs to think about not some narrow aspect of physics. That's all he thinks about and that makes it much easier for him. But it means that his understanding is not going to work more universally and broadly.

 

58. Lower perspectives think of reality in isolated parts not systemically. Are reductive and non-holistic because that's much easier.

 

59. Lower perspectives have a static view of systems and ideas.

They're nonevolutionary. For example many Christians don't have an evolutionary view of their own religion. Christianity itself as a religion and belief system has evolve. The Christianity of today in America is not the Christianity of 2,000 years ago in Jesus's times, so Christianity has changed a lot but most christians are just believing the current version of Christianity which is very distorted and corrupted relative to what it was originally.

They don't even know what it was originally; they don't even acknowledge that it changed.

Christians have multiple problems with evolution not only is it a problem in terms of man and animals but it's also a problem just within their own religion. If you look at the actual origins of Christianity you see that it's borrowing elements from other religions that predated it from Pagan Traditions, from various mystical and occult traditions .

Science is also evolutionary. Science changes as well and many scientists are rather ignorant of the significance of this, even though they're generally aware of it.

 

60. Lower perspectives commit narrative fallacy creating flawed stories to explain random events imposing false meaning.

Missing patterns and invents selfs serving patterns.

It's very easy to cherry-pick patterns from reality. You can literally walk outside and see two birds sitting in a tree and then interpret that as the tree has eyes looking at you and is winking at you.

This kind of projection... Or you see Jesus in a pancake sort of thing. You see God speaking messages to you in your alphabet soup…

 

61. Lower perspectives do lots and lots of projection.

They can't distinguish between reality and their own projections onto reality. This leads to a lot of epistemic error and self-deception.

 

62. Lower perspectives are resistant to metaphorical and abstract thinking.

They can't think at high levels of abstraction and more metaphorically. They take things more literally. One way to distinguish lower quality and higher quality forms of religion or religious worldview is

that the more literal the religion is the lower it is.

When a christian tells you that literally the Earth is 5,000 years old, ‘because if you do the math inside the Bible that's literally what it amounts to’, that's a lower level of perspective than some more sophisticated Christian saying that the Bible is more metaphorical, allegorical, mythological…

 

63. Lower perspectives are also characterized by a lack of existential thinking.

Existential thinking means thinking fundamentally from scratch about the nature of reality without any

assumptions, without any human biases and without any beliefs. But really thinking from scratch about the metaphysics of existence or anything for that matter.

 

64. Lower perspectives are also non relativistic they do not understand or appreciate relativity and they will demonize relativity.

This is why conservatives love to demonize relativism. It's a common trope. They don't understand the profound nature of Relativity and that this doesn't contradict things like God or spirituality, this is actually an essential aspect of it.

 

65. Lower perspectives also misuse and selectively apply relativism and skepticism to defend one's own belief systems.

They will use relativism and skepticism but only when it serves their worldview which of course is a double standard. If you're going to use skepticism you have to use it equally against other systems and your own. And if you're going to be relativistic you have to apply that equally, you can't just cherry-pick and apply relativism in ways that serve you.

 

66. Lower perspectives flippantly dismiss experts and expertise.

Because they don't really care about the truth they only want to use experts and expertise when it serves their agenda and their ideology. If it contradicts them, then those experts need to be demonized and ignored.

For example an antivaxer isn't interested in the expertise of real scientists who do research on vaccines and immune immune systems. They don't care about that, they don't trust those experts and they have no awareness of the challenges of doing science on the immune system.

It's way more difficult than these antivaxers understand which is not to say that science is always right, science can also make mistakes and it can also be corrupt, but you have to be very careful about talking about a complex science like vaccine research from a completely inexperienced point of view.

 

67. Low perspectives weaponize information to advance a personal or collective survival agenda.

They manipulate information and knowledge and they eagerly engage in propaganda and

they don't see a problem with this. In their eyes propaganda is good because it's spreading the message, it's spreading the ‘truth’.

If you have the truth why not propagandize it on every channel? They don't understand the problem with that but a higher perspective understands when you actually go through the process of acquiring real truth; when you go through inquiry; you realize truth cannot be disseminated through belief systems or ideology or propaganda, truth can only be arrived at through a genuine process of inquiry which is antithetical to propaganda but if you don't care about truth from the very beginning and you

don't care about epistemology then none of this matters to you.

 

68. Lower perspectives also misplace loyalty in political activism.

They prefer to win at political activism versus something more abstract and philosophical like sense making or pure understanding or epistemics or truth seeking.

Fox News people don't care about sense making or accuracy or epistemology, what they care about is political activism, they care about their tribe winning, their team winning and so one way you can tell very easily lower quality perspectives is that they're politically radicalized and they're partisan.

Higher minds are nonpartisan and they're not politically radicalized because they understand that

the issue is much more complex, there's not a clear right and wrong side and each side makes mistakes and has flaws in it. But also hits upon some truths that they need to be balanced out and not just demonized or defeated.

A lower mind doesn't understand that, it just wants to its team to win, it thinks that that's what life is about - your team winning, crushing the opposition through power and strength and truth, but the truth there is not real truth, it's just postery and fantasy and selfishness masquerading as truth.

 

69. Lower perspectives are concerned about optics and winning versus the truth.

Think about Trump. Does Trump care about the truth? He cares about the optics and winning.

 

70. Lower perspectives are engaged in evangelism.

Higher perspectives are not. Higher perspectives respect other minds and other points of view enough not to try to dominate them.

Domination is not just in terms of beating someone over the head with a club, domination is also about trying to impose your worldview on them rather than giving space. Higher minds will not want to propagandize children, thye will give children space to grow up and to go through an inquiry process and explore different religions and different perspectives and it come to its own conclusions. Whereas somebody who's addicted to an ideology wants their children indoctrinated into their ideology and wants the whole world inducted into their ideology.

 

71. Lower perspectives do not distinguish between indoctrination and education or facilitation.

To indoctrinate is just to memorize stuff. Proper education and facilitation is when you help someone to do an exploration not to have them believe something that you want them to believe, but to genuinely explore. For example you can facilitate a child into exploring mathematics, that means you don't teach him the multiplication table, you don't teach him to memorize anything, you don't teach them formulas or little shortcuts for how to do math equations. You just help him to explore, you get a couple objects and you add them together and you let the child discover what is addition just by moving some objects around.

That's a facilitation rather than just telling your child to memorize a multiplication table.

There's a difference between indoctrinating someone into believing in God versus having someone

realize what God is.

 

72. Lower perspectives are unconcerned about conflicts of interest.

They often have a lot of conflicts of interest and they don't mind. For example Trump has many conflicts of interest. He owns businesses and this sorts of stuff and he doesn't divest from any of them. When he becomes president does he care? Do his supporters care?

Why not? Because they're not developed enough to understand the problems that come with that. Conflicts of interest distort your understanding of reality and they corrupt politics.

 

73. Lower perspectives are unsustainable, unscalable and they don't care.

Burning fossil fuels is unsustainable but people in lower perspective don't care that it's unsustainable because they don't think that far ahead.

Low perspectives think very short term and also have low environmental awareness. That because they're too self-centered to notice, thats also something that animals do.

We like to think of animals as these beautiful creatures who wouldn't pollute the Earth but animals don't care about their environment. Because they're not conscious enough to care. Do beavers care about the impact they have on the environment around them? They're not conscious enough to care,

they don't understand what they're doing, they're just doing their beaver thing. They're doing what's good for the Beavers. What's good for the Beavers is to build a pond and then build their nest in the pond and then raise their kids and that's all beavers care about.

Humans act the same way.

It takes a lot of Consciousness to start to care about the environment because you have to start to

see how your actions and your tribe's actions have negative consequences and externalities on the environment, you have to care about how your corporation which pays your paycheck is negatively

influencing and your paycheck is coming from the externalities that the corporation is offloading onto the public.

To become conscious of all this takes a lot of responsibility and ethics and integrity. It's much easier not to care about that.

 

74. Lower perspectives live in and create media echo chambers.

Not only do they put themselves in a ideological echo chamber but they help perpetuate it.

Whereas higher perspective tend to want to undo echo chambers. They're careful not to find themselves in an echo chamber or to create it.

 

75. Lower perspectives lack self-reflection very fundamentally.

 

76. Lower perspectives are incapable of handling diversity because they're too finite.

That's why for example conservatives struggle with dealing with the diversity of immigrants races,

genders, sexual orientations, artistic styles, different cultures and subcultures.

Conservatives want a monoculture, they want it to be christian, they want it to be white, they want it to be kind of like old school the way that it was. They don't want a bunch of weird punks and goths and gays and trans and postmodernists. It's too much complexity, their mind literally can't handle this much diversity because they have a very finite limited perspective. When your perspective is limited you want to limit reality to that perspective.

 

77. Lower perspectives do not have an understanding of non-duality.

That's a rather advanced thing. Even higher perspectives don't have an understanding of non-duality. Some recognition of some aspects of non-duality is important, even if you're not enlightened or awakened or whatever. Understanding of non-duality is important just for making sense of reality.

 

78. Lower perspectives have no awareness of developmental stages, spiral dynamics, etc.

Lower perspective do not even know that developmental psychology exists, that it's a thing, that it's

important or that higher stages of development exist beyond their own. For example your average Christian or Muslim does not understand that religion Christianity and Islam are fairly low stages of

psychological development and of course that's very inconvenient for them to know, so it's better that they don't know that. Because if they knew that they would have an existential crisis.

 

79. Lower perspectives are characterized by trying to impose its own needs, values, worldview and agenda on to others because fundamentally, it's deeply insecure and it needs the whole world to reflect back to itself their fantasy.

For a mormon it's very important to go out there in the world and to evangelize. Why do Mormons need to evangelize? Because fundamentally their worldview is bullshit, so now you have to do work to keep the water from sinking your boat. So they work on that every single day of their lives, that's what they are committed to.

 

80. Lower perspectives believe that everyone should live by ‘my values’ and by ‘my morality’.

Everyone should be a christian, everyone needs to be a Muslim, everyone needs to be a Mormon, because ‘the Mormons have the best values, the best morality is the Mormon morality’.

 

81. Lower perspective tends to believe that there's only one right way to live and to view reality.

‘If you don't view reality my way then you're just wrong and you're evil and you're going to hell’.

That's a simple way to live, it absolves you of taking any kind of intellectual responsibility for

making sense of other people's worldviews if that's your world view.

 

82. Lower quality perspectives tend to come from mental illness and mentally unhinged or mentally disturbed minds.

I'm not saying that all mental illness leads to lower perspectives but there does tend to be a pretty high correlation between these two.

 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 04:02 PM by Vibes

[Human Mint]

That was a good video, looking foward for the next part.

I could not come to any satisfying answer myself for the questions yet, but its a really important topic.