Let's decode : Prostitution is good or bad?

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Also, are blow jobs considered the same as sex in exchange. If a man pays to lick some girls ass and that's all he wants, was that prostitution. Sorry for the bluntness, but this is keeping it realistic, not what you think this business is and your ideas about it. It's different all over the spectrum.

I consider that sex too yes. It involves genitalia somehow. 

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Ok I didn't think of that yes id consider it prostitution. For example what we can see in sugar daddy/baby relationships

This is how you're naive about this field. Sugar Daddy/Baby relationships aren't necessarily prostitution. Lots of sugar babies make money without having sex with these guys.Some are not even intimate at all. Some aren't even in the same city, just online. Not only that, they're usually a monthly payment (approx $2000/mth) for companionship. They call it an allowance. Sex isn't necessary but sometimes is. 

Let me tell you a secret, the less you make the more you do in this field. The cheap guys are the ones that want sex and to throw you upside the bed and want to fucj your brains out from behind and sideways. The hundreds and thousand dollar guys don't care for sex, and it all varies what they like. Enough said here but you're all naive about the ins and outs of this business. Street service, massage parlors and escort services are usually where the cheapness comes in bit this business varies and can range from cheap to exquisitely expensive.

[Sugarcoat]

6 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

This is how you're naive about this field. Sugar Daddy/Baby relationships aren't necessarily prostitution. Lots of sugar babies make money without having sex with these guys.Some are not even intimate at all. Some aren't even in the same city, just online. Not only that, they're usually a monthly payment (approx $2000/mth) for companionship. They call it an allowance. Sex isn't necessary but sometimes is. 

I didn’t mean in all cases ofc but in some of them I’d consider it a form of prostitution 

6 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Let me tell you a secret, the less you make the more you do in this field. The cheap guys are the ones that want sex and to throw you upside the bed and want to fucj your brains out from behind and sideways. The hundreds and thousand dollar guys don't care for sex, and it all varies what they like. Enough said here but you're all naive about the ins and outs of this business. Street service, massage parlors and escort services are usually where the cheapness comes in bit this business varies and can range from cheap to exquisitely expensive.

There’s nuance to it ofc

[Lyubov]

I don't know. I don't think it's good or bad. It seems culturally accepted depending where you are. Of course some of it is disgusting and wrong. There's also a lot of women who do their own thing and it's fine for them. Hard to say. 

[Schizophonia]

11 hours ago, Lyubov said:

I don't know. I don't think it's good or bad. It seems culturally accepted depending where you are. Of course some of it is disgusting and wrong. There's also a lot of women who do their own thing and it's fine for them. Hard to say. 

My dad knows someone who lived in Vietnam like 2 decades ago. He was explaining to us how there were entire buildings in Hanoi dedicated to the prostitution industry.

[Princess Arabia]

24 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

My dad knows someone who lived in Vietnam like 2 decades ago. He was explaining to us how there were entire buildings in Hanoi dedicated to the prostitution industry.

Of course, men are horny pigs everywhere.

[Princess Arabia]

20 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

I consider that sex too yes. It involves genitalia somehow. 

There are men out there paying women just for kisses and a hug. Don't believe me, there are websites dedicated to this. Genitalia doesn't have to be involved for the exchange of money to be involved. The list just goes on, my dear. The business is just too vast to narrow it down to just sex and genitalia. You'd be surprised.

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

There are men out there paying women just for kisses and a hug. Don't believe me, there are websites dedicated to this. Genitalia doesn't have to be involved for the exchange of money to be involved. The list just goes on, my dear. The business is just too vast to narrow it down to just sex and genitalia. You'd be surprised.

But we were talking about what sex was. Ofc there are other things that can be payed for, but it’s the minority. I’m talking about how prostitution works globally in the general sense. And in that sense I consider it exploitation most of the time. You need money to survive but not sex to survive. The buyer has a certain power, and the seller less so, generally speaking. From what I’ve read so far. 

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

But we were talking about what sex was. Ofc there are other things that can be payed for, but it’s the minority. I’m talking about how prostitution works globally in the general sense. And in that sense I consider it exploitation most of the time. You need money to survive but not sex to survive. The buyer has a certain power, and the seller less so, generally speaking. From what I’ve read so far. 

How is it an activity with consenting adults exploitation. I'm not referring to sex-trafficking and people doing this against their will. 

[Schizophonia]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

But we were talking about what sex was. Ofc there are other things that can be payed for, but it’s the minority. I’m talking about how prostitution works globally in the general sense. And in that sense I consider it exploitation most of the time. You need money to survive but not sex to survive. The buyer has a certain power, and the seller less so, generally speaking. From what I’ve read so far. 

19 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Of course, men are horny pigs everywhere.

Yes but life without sex is not worth living.

I am not a consumer but I understand how men consume prostitutes; Especially in poor countries where people work more and do not have the same comfort as in the West.

The world is exploitation, ultimately we all work for our respective interests. Each for himself and God for all.

 

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Yes but life without sex is not worth living.

I am not a consumer but I understand how men consume prostitutes; Especially in poor countries where people work more and do not have the same comfort as in the West.

The world is exploitation, ultimately we all work for our respective interests. Each for himself and God for all.

 

I'm not condemning anything or anyone. It's just the excuses are laughable and the reasonings absurd. There's a different one every time I make comments like I did. Yours now is life without sex is not worth living so I have to be a horny cow that pays to see hookers and go try to sex up the town and pick-up any chick who'se willing and hope she's hot.

Even your other explanations about poverty and confort in the West etc. It's in Bali, Tim buktu, Switzerland, the Netherlands EVERYWHERE. Even in Jeruslem.  Comfort? Prostitution is everywhere poor or not. Matter of fact, it's more prevalent amongst the rich.

Edited Monday at 02:51 PM by Princess Arabia

[Sugarcoat]

11 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

How is it an activity with consenting adults exploitation. I'm not referring to sex-trafficking and people doing this against their will. 

But even in cases where she has “free will” to do it, it can be because of certain circumstances like economic desperation, drug abuse, a past of sexual trauma , so she is in vulnerable position while the man is not. 

[Sugarcoat]

12 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Yes but life without sex is not worth living.

Thats a bit far isn’t it😹

[Princess Arabia]

40 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

But even in cases where she has “free will” to do it, it can be because of certain circumstances like economic desperation, drug abuse, a past of sexual trauma , so she is in vulnerable position while the man is not. 

Yes, but that's not exploitation. Let's use these words in their proper contexts. A man could also be seeing prostitutes because he has a past of sexual trauma. I've known men to be in bdsm because of sexual trauma and saw workers in that field. Economic desperation causes people to go work at McDonald's, is that exploitation. When we go around and around and around and around with all these ideas and reasoning and all these explanations we think we know why things are happening and what we think we know about the world, they can get debunked so fast and everything revealed to be the same only different contents.

[Sugarcoat]

8 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Yes, but that's not exploitation. Let's use these words in their proper contexts. A man could also be seeing prostitutes because he has a past of sexual trauma. I've known men to be in bdsm because of sexual trauma and saw workers in that field. Economic desperation causes people to go work at McDonald's, is that exploitation. When we go around and around and around and around with all these ideas and reasoning and all these explanations we think we know why things are happening and what we think we know about the world, they can get debunked so fast and everything revealed to be the same only different contents.

I consider it exploitation because I don’t view prostitution as comparable to other forms of work. Sex is something most people would consider very intimate, and most would rather work at McDonald’s or some of the worst job rather than be prostitutes. Becuase the body is so intimate and can’t be turned into a commodity for the vast majority of people.  Ofc men can have trauma behind buying sex and be vulnerable in that sense but i still view it as exploitation in many cases because needing money is a more basic need (for survival) than needing sex. 

[NoSelfSelf]

17 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

This is how you're naive about this field. Sugar Daddy/Baby relationships aren't necessarily prostitution. Lots of sugar babies make money without having sex with these guys.Some are not even intimate at all. Some aren't even in the same city, just online. Not only that, they're usually a monthly payment (approx $2000/mth) for companionship. They call it an allowance. Sex isn't necessary but sometimes is. 

Let me tell you a secret, the less you make the more you do in this field. The cheap guys are the ones that want sex and to throw you upside the bed and want to fucj your brains out from behind and sideways. The hundreds and thousand dollar guys don't care for sex, and it all varies what they like. Enough said here but you're all naive about the ins and outs of this business. Street service, massage parlors and escort services are usually where the cheapness comes in bit this business varies and can range from cheap to exquisitely expensive.

Escort game is wild stuff, no wonder game came from the pimps...

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

I consider it exploitation because I don’t view prostitution as comparable to other forms of work. Sex is something most people would consider very intimate, and most would rather work at McDonald’s or some of the worst job rather than be prostitutes. Becuase the body is so intimate and can’t be turned into a commodity for the vast majority of people.  Ofc men can have trauma behind buying sex and be vulnerable in that sense but i still view it as exploitation in many cases because needing money is a more basic need (for survival) than needing sex. 

Please go look up the meaning of the word exploitation. Google says: Being groomed, forced or coerced into doing something that you don't want to do for someone else's gain. Synonyms: Leverage, manipulate, abuse, impose (on or upon), play (on or upon). 

Plus, you don't know that for sure. How many gorgeous looking women with 10 star bodies do you see working at Mcdonald's maybe they're out being escorts and getting paid and only a few are slave waging. You are only speculating and assuming. People will say anything when their circumstances do not permit. I've even heard lots and lots of men say if they were a woman they'd do the same thing.

Also, one has turned the body into a commodity the moment they have had sex with another. I don't care if it's for love or money. It is still a transaction, an exchange and consumerism for pleasure or to bear kids. Still a personal gain for one's need to fulfill an agenda pertaining to their survival. 

[Sugarcoat]

9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Please go look up the meaning of the word exploitation. Google says: Being groomed, forced or coerced into doing something that you don't want to do for someone else's gain. Synonyms: Leverage, manipulate, abuse, impose (on or upon), play (on or upon). 

How could the buyer know that he’s buying sex from someone that does it from free will vs is being exploited? That’s another factor

9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Plus, you don't know that for sure. How many gorgeous looking women with 10 star bodies do you see working at Mcdonald's maybe they're out being escorts and getting paid and only a few are slave waging. 

That is just a wild guess from you. 
 

 

9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

 You are only speculating and assuming. People will say anything when their circumstances do not permit. I've even heard lots and lots of men say if they were a woman they'd do the same thing.

 

It’s easy to say but a whole another  thing to actuallly do it. They’re saying it from a detached view .A hot man could also sell sex to men but why don’t we see them doing it. 

9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Also, one has turned the body into a commodity the moment they have had sex with another. I don't care if it's for love or money. It is still a transaction, an exchange and consumerism for pleasure or to bear kids. Still a personal gain for one's need to fulfill an agenda pertaining to their survival. 

Disagree. Sex for love and pleasure isn’t comparable, and the body is literally made to make kids so that isn’t comparable either 

 

Bottom line this is why I support the law here in Sweden that makes it illegal to buy sex but legal to sell

Edited Monday at 04:19 PM by Sugarcoat

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Sugarcoat said:

It’s easy to say but a whole another  thing to actuallly do it. They’re saying it from a detached view .A hot man could also sell sex to men but why don’t we see them doing it. 

I told you, you won't see too many things that works or are not negative in documentaries or in the news etc. There are plenty of this around. There was one on Only Fans in the limelight a few months back. Lots of men selling to men. 

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Disagree. 

I bet the body that was used for someone else's gain doesn't. Go ahead and try to moralize and place upon the body your views about how we use and abuse it. You are using the body right now for your consumerism of pills to try and make it feel better. Why do you take pills. Because you want to feel better. You need a body for that. Why do we have sex to feel good, we need a body for that. It's all about feeling good, my dear and that's what consumerism is all about. To feed that ego of yours.

I will and can tear apart that beautiful construction of yours to pieces that you'll wish you never realize what it took to build it.

Edited Monday at 04:24 PM by Princess Arabia