Let's decode : Prostitution is good or bad?

[gambler]

12 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm not sure what it is you think I want to see and I'm sorry, but your explanation still haven't touched the point on why it's OK for men to whore down the town just for kicks, but for women making a living at it is so wrong. 

It’s not okay, but I’m explaining why we don’t see parity in the level of disgust.

Edited January 12 by gambler

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Kairos said:

I'm sorry to say but IT IS ,I don't think survival mecahnisms were EVOLVED with Ethics and morals in concern  😂

The point is why if a woman is trying to survive and is even being a host to these sexfilled men to carry out their survival tactics and strategies looked down upon. That's the real issue. These men need women to fulfill their needs but it's the women who are the sluts and the whores for doing so.

[Princess Arabia]

10 minutes ago, gambler said:

It’s not okay, but I’m explaining why we don’t see parity in the level of disgust. If you don’t understand it, then I don’t have anything else to say. 

There's nothing to understand here in what you're saying. It's only a belief system and giving excuses why it's OK that there is disgust on one side but not the other. All it does is give men the right to cheat, lie, be polygamous and whore down the town as they see fit with no backlash whatsoever whether married or with gfs. You're giving reasons why, but to me, they are just that; empty reasons and justifications that were made up by society. I don't have a problem with men being that way, what I see as unjust is the constant backlash on women doing the same thing and these men need these women to carry out their charades. It's hypocrital. 

Edited January 11 by Princess Arabia

[Kairos]

13 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

why if a woman is trying to survive and is even being a host to these sexfilled men to carry out their survival tactics and strategies looked down upon

Because the men(Exploitative) who do this are low consciousness people they just care about their needs being met . EGO MIND 

All men are not like this. so, debate is pointless.

Good luck convincing them with logic .

 

Edited January 11 by Kairos

[Princess Arabia]

15 minutes ago, gambler said:

“The vast majority of STD transmission to babies (approximately **95-99%**) occurs from the **mother**, with a very small percentage (around **1-5%**) potentially attributed to the **father**, typically in cases like **herpes** or **HPV**.”

- ChatGPT 

 

And then we wonder why we are more disgusted with female sexuality than male sexuality. 

Nice try. I wonder if these women got infected through masturbation. 

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Kairos said:

Because the people who do this are low consciousness people they just care about their needs being met . EGO MIND 

Good luck convincing them with logic .

 

I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything. I'm in this field and I'm already convinced that a lot of hypocrisy is being projected and that women are always getting the low end of the stick while men can just justify their whoring ways just like you are all doing in this thread. BTW, it's not about low consciousness with me and everybody is just trying to get their needs met. There's no argument here with that. 

[gambler]

12 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

There's nothing to understand here in what you're saying. It's only a belief system and giving excuses why it's OK that there is disgust on one side but not the other. All it does is give men the right to cheat, lie, be polygamous and whore down the town as they see fit with no backlash whatsoever whether married or with gfs. You're giving reasons why, but to me, they are just that; empty reasons and justifications that were made up by society. I don't have a problem with men being that way, what I see as unjust is the constant backlash on women doing the same thing and these men need these women to carry out their charades. It's hypocrital. 

They don’t have a right or excuse to do those things. 

Also the made up by society claim  means nothing, since I don’t care about appealing to what society says. I’m telling you that nature favored humans who had a certain default factory setting that was more disgusted with female sexuality than male sexuality. Otherwise you wouldn’t have this universal phenomenon where people are more disgusted with female sexuality, including prostitution. It’s not a coincidence that nature favored their reproduction.

Edited January 12 by gambler

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

They're my motivation to make money

[Sugarcoat]

9 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Stigma and only the ones you hear about. Do you ever see on the news marriages that are doing just fine, people who are very happy in life, relationships that are very nourishing to both partners, people who love their jobs, families that are caring, loving and kind to each other, the perfect friendships, people living without trauma etcetcetc - you get the drift. No need to do documentaries on these kinds of people. They would bore the public to death, but they do exist. 

You have a point. It’s just based on the little research I’ve done and being realistic. It’s a minority from what I have learned

[ThermalTide]

Nothing is "good" or "bad" really, but seeing as I've sold my body for a price, I might have something of interest to add here. Prostitution pretty much only occurs in desperate circumstances, by providers and patrons. Providers desperate to get money, patrons desperate to feel desired. In this way, its a very low consciousness activity. It also promotes sex trafficking, so theres that. I suppose some people would say 'well, I was feeling horrible about my life and then I saw a hot escort who told me all I've wanted to hear, blah blah blah, life saving, blah.' On the other side, some women say that the sex industry saved them financially or made them love their body finally or whatever. The arguments for it being "good" are pretty stupid to me, when compared to the nasty parts of it. 

[gambler]

16 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Nice try. I wonder if these women got infected through masturbation. 

Fair point. But the point I'm trying to make is that, since females carry the babies, we expect them to make better decisions and choose the right man. Her body houses the gateway to life and all the potential complications that come with it, not men. With that power comes greater responsibility. So historically she shouldn't be choosing to behave promiscuously and contract STDs that she will pass on to the baby. Or being unable to identify the father, and potentially raising the child without one. Furthermore, females have a limited amount of kids they can birth. There used to be a lot more danger to the woman's life. If you're going to risk your limited eggs or your life delivering a baby, it makes more sense to have valued your eggs/life enough to have chosen better. Rather than let anyone and everyone in. Sure a man also bears responsibility, but she is directly responsible for her actions. Since she will always bear every consequence that comes from her pregnancy, she had to be more responsible. Hence, we judge female sexuality more harshly or are more disgusted by it.

Go ahead and hand-wave it all away as society making up reasons and excuses. I just find it interesting how much of a double standard people hold when it comes to understanding the psychology of people with different gender and sexual orientation vs understanding people whose genes expresses itself differently than theirs in terms of disgust. You have no problem being empathetic to the former and learning why their psychology is the way it is, but you're completely dismissive of the latter.

Edited Sunday at 05:26 AM by gambler

[eos_nyxia]

Never trust a man who jerks off with one hand and condemns with the other.

[Princess Arabia]

12 hours ago, gambler said:

Fair point. But the point I'm trying to make is that, since females carry the babies, we expect them to make better decisions and choose the right man. Her body houses the gateway to life and all the potential complications that come with it, not men. With that power comes greater responsibility. So historically she shouldn't be choosing to behave promiscuously and contract STDs that she will pass on to the baby. Or being unable to identify the father, and potentially raising the child without one. Furthermore, females have a limited amount of kids they can birth. There used to be a lot more danger to the woman's life. If you're going to risk your limited eggs or your life delivering a baby, it makes more sense to have valued your eggs/life enough to have chosen better. Rather than let anyone and everyone in. Sure a man also bears responsibility, but she is directly responsible for her actions. Since she will always bear every consequence that comes from her pregnancy, she had to be more responsible. Hence, we judge female sexuality more harshly or are more disgusted by it.

Go ahead and hand-wave it all away as society making up reasons and excuses. I just find it interesting how much of a double standard people hold when it comes to understanding the psychology of people with different gender and sexual orientation vs understanding people whose genes expresses itself differently than theirs in terms of disgust. You have no problem being empathetic to the former and learning why their psychology is the way it is, but you're completely dismissive of the latter.

Perfect example of how chaotic the Universe is and how nothing really makes sense and that we have these sensory organs and a brain to try to make sense of all this chaos. It's everywhere, and one just has to have the eyes to see it. It's brilliant and genius how the mind does this and it's the only way we can have a world that seems so real and orderly amidst all this chaos. 

Your explanation here makes no sense whatsoever but only for the sly mind that constructed it all, unfortunately it doesn't fit into my world so we're gonna have to disagree; but it doesn't mean you won't find your sly and cunning explanation useful to you and your world. Brilliant.

[Sugarcoat]

It might not be the best thing to your own self esteem to feel like you have to pay for sex to get it . 

[Princess Arabia]

17 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

You have a point. It’s just based on the little research I’ve done and being realistic. It’s a minority from what I have learned

Realistic? Prostitution is everywhere, even within the local church. Why don't we define the word then maybe we'll have a better understanding. Is it sex in exchange for $$. Then that's pretty common directly or indirectly. Is it in a controlled atmosphere where people have been manipulated and forced to sell their bodies; sounds like what you're talking about and is in another category. I can go on, but the bottom line is we're all defining it differently and have all different ideas about it. Men are engaging in prostitution all the time, just in the reverse. Paying for pussy in some way shape or form. In the real world they have female cops going out arresting the males trying to pick up hookers too so it's not just one way, it's both ways.

Realistic? Think again. You guys are so naive when it comes to this subject. 

Edited Sunday at 03:12 PM by Princess Arabia

[Sugarcoat]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Realistic? Prostitution is everywhere, even within the local church. Why don't we define the word then maybe we'll have a better understanding. Is it sex in exchange for $$. Then that's pretty common directly or indirectly. Is it in a controlled atmosphere where people have been manipulated and forced to sell their bodies; sounds like what you're talking about and is in another category. I can go on, but the bottom line is we're all defining it differently and have all different ideas about it. Men are engaging in prostitution all the time, just in the reverse. Paying for pussy in some way shape or form. In the real world they have female cops going out arresting the males trying to pick up hookers too do it's not just one way, it's both ways.

Realistic? Think again.

Sex in direct exchange for money yes. 

[Princess Arabia]

7 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

It might not be the best thing to your own self esteem to feel like you have to pay for sex to get it . 

Just so you know and realize in the field of prostitution, the majority of clients are the married ones or have long time gfs. You will find after a while a guy gets bored with his wife or gf and instead of divorcing or breaking up they go out to see pros. 80%, that's the figure, ok. The other 20% might be guys who just don't want gfs but just interested in the sex. I'll leave room for an extra 5% of guys who give a shit about their lack of self-esteem because they pd for a pro. Don't believe me, go do your research on the men that gets caught in the stings, just about all of them are married or have long-term live-in gfs. 

I don't even need to go that far and just speak for myself. Lawyers doctors, police officers, teachers, professors, senators, judges, waiters, bus boys, cooks, you fucking name it, also your neighbors and it might even include your family and friends, that patronize this business. 

[Princess Arabia]

9 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Sex in direct exchange for money yes. 

OK so receiving a check isn't considered or if he takes her shopping. If a female is selling her pussy to a man and asks him to buy her a car in replacement for the cash.....by your standards that's not prostitution. If a female sold her pussy to a man on credit because she was naive and stupid and he promised to pay her in a few days but didn't, I guess that wasn't prostitution. 

[Princess Arabia]

21 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Sex in direct exchange for money yes. 

Also, are blow jobs considered the same as sex in exchange. If a man pays to lick some girls ass and that's all he wants, was that prostitution. Sorry for the bluntness, but this is keeping it realistic, not what you think this business is and your ideas about it. It's different all over the spectrum.

Edited Sunday at 03:36 PM by Princess Arabia

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

OK so receiving a check isn't considered or if he takes her shopping. If a female is selling her pussy to a man and asks him to buy her a car in replacement for the cash.....by your standards that's not prostitution. If a female sold her pussy to a man on credit because she was naive and stupid and he promised to pay her in a few days but didn't, I guess that wasn't prostitution. 

Ok I didn't think of that yes id consider it prostitution. For example what we can see in sugar daddy/baby relationships