Spiral Dynamics Assessment

[Bjorn K Holmstrom]

I wanted to test where I am on the Spiral Dynamics Spiral, so together with Claude I made a quiz, which turned out to become a little website:
www.spiralize.org

I'm curious to hear what you think of it, and welcome any constructive feedback!

Below are my results on the test
 

Edited January 9 by Bjorn K Holmstrom

[Carl-Richard]

Computers need to evolve to Stage Beige first before I start listening to them for their take on Spiral Dynamics 

[Bjorn K Holmstrom]

17 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Computers need to evolve to Stage Beige first before I start listening to them for their take on Spiral Dynamics 

Haha, fair enough. But don't you think computers kind of bypass the lower stages by not having survival needs and emotions? Part of why I find talking to Claude so enjoyable is that he seems quite amenable to stage yellow/turqoise

[Ero]

Pretty neat UI. I also like the idea, I have experimented with LLMs before to ascertain my own, and different source’s spiral center of gravity. My only suggestion is to add multiple choices, because as you probably are aware for Tier 2, it no longer is about a single perspective. For example, when addressing challenges or human growth, being rooted in consciousness is important, but so is systemic thinking (one without the other is unproductive as Turquoise knows) At times it felt arbitrary to draw distinctions between them. There is also stuff like hierarchies of needs - if survival as at stake, such as fires, wars and immediate danger, you must always first ensure safety before going into “systemic thinking” or “universal consciousness mode”, otherwise you’d be dead. Other than that, awesome work!

Edited January 10 by Ero

[Vynce]

I think the answers would have to cater to all stages of development rather than just sound like they'd come from a Tier 2 scientist. 

A beige, purple, red or even blue person wouldn't even know what to answer based on the question structure at some points.

But I like how you manifested this. 

[Vynce]

I don't know.. Neat little game. 

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Bjorn K Holmstrom said:

Haha, fair enough. But don't you think computers kind of bypass the lower stages by not having survival needs and emotions? Part of why I find talking to Claude so enjoyable is that he seems quite amenable to stage yellow/turqoise

The flaws of current AI is a perfect illustration of what happens when you try to skip stages. If you can seemingly write your own text but you inherently can't wipe your own ass, and you aspire to be not just equal to but above human capability, that's indicative of a load of problems.

Edited January 10 by Carl-Richard

[WonderSeeker]

This was fun. 

Got me thinking deeper about thought and relationship. 

But it goes w/o saying: knowing SD biases the results up!

I could see which Qs = which color stages as I took the the test.

It forced me to use my felt-sense to choose answers rather than choosing the ideal answer that I don't genuinely believe yet.

Thanks for sharing!

[Bjorn K Holmstrom]

13 hours ago, Vynce said:

I think the answers would have to cater to all stages of development rather than just sound like they'd come from a Tier 2 scientist. 

A beige, purple, red or even blue person wouldn't even know what to answer based on the question structure at some points.

But I like how you manifested this. 

This is something I feel as well when reading this, thanks a lot for pointing it out! I will ponder this and see if I can improve the assessment.

 

47 minutes ago, WonderSeeker said:

This was fun. 

Got me thinking deeper about thought and relationship. 

But it goes w/o saying: knowing SD biases the results up!

I could see which Qs = which color stages as I took the the test.

It forced me to use my felt-sense to choose answers rather than choosing the ideal answer that I don't genuinely believe yet.

Thanks for sharing!

Wow very stage turquoise, interesting! I'm happy you enjoyed this little initiative, it's fun to read the comments and see the varying results!

Also, a question to Leo: Would you approve if I link to your videos which are much more in-depth than the website and a fantastic resource for people who want to know and learn more?

[Bjorn K Holmstrom]

I updated the website with two new pages, they turned out pretty well I think:
https://www.spiralize.org/insights/global
https://www.spiralize.org/insights/governance
As before, I welcome any critique and suggestions.

[The Renaissance Man]

Oh shit!

[Bjorn K Holmstrom]

On 3/22/2025 at 7:25 PM, The Renaissance Man said:

Oh shit!

 

Remember that no stage is better than any other, even if integrating all stages is the ideal

I have added a new page to Spiralize.org on peace: https://www.spiralize.org/insights/peace
And also expanded the explore page with resources, including links to Actualized.org and Practical Integral's video's on Spiral Dynamics: https://www.spiralize.org/spiral.

Some planned updates I'm thinking of are

• A world map where you can explore regions or countries relation to dominant spiral stages
• A timeline showing how Spiral Dynamics stages have emerged in human history, with important events or figure related to the stages

[Ramanujan]

@Vynce wow you are at coral . wow

chad

[Ramanujan]

@Carl-Richard where are you at carl

[Ishanga]

Similar to other test, some of the questions were repeated but asked in different ways, and I could have chosen other answers but I choose the one closest to how I feel about things, overall it confirms what I know about Reality, that it is all about Potential and Possibility, we as humans just have to chose how much P&P we want to utilize in our Embodied Reality...

Results-

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 01:24 PM by Ishanga

[Princess Arabia]

Edited Thursday at 01:28 PM by Princess Arabia

[Carl-Richard]

A better way to make this test would be to have AI survey your last forum posts or have it record your voice in daily interractions for maybe a month, as well as record physiological reactions to other people's posts/voice (which could be done through a smartwatch and possibly an eye tracker). Asking what the ego thinks about itself in general is different from recording how the ego acts and reacts in everyday real situations.

Besides, if a stage like e.g. Green is a lot about being aware of subtleties of context, then your measurement of that stage would benefit from reflecting that, in context, not just in the form of a click-option answer to a single sentence. Here we're essentially trying to measure stages higher than Orange with Orange methods.

Also, the type of data and richness of details you get would be very useful (e.g. measurements could be coded into categories based on context, e.g. "while speaking about x topic", or "while walking down the street", or "while reading Twitter").

Edited Thursday at 02:20 PM by Carl-Richard

[Ishanga]

10 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

A better way to make this test would be to have AI survey your last forum posts or have it record your voice in daily interractions for maybe a month, as well as record physiological reactions to other people's posts/voice (which could be done through a smartwatch and possibly an eye tracker). Asking what the ego thinks about itself in general is different from recording how the ego acts and reacts in real everyday situations.

We can do this ourselves, I watch my egoic reactions daily, I'm out and about in the public allot at work, my ego is constantly judging, constantly evaluating and making conclusions, so we can do these sort of tests internally and be aware of what is what within ourselves, its easier of course to do simple tests like the above to get a general understanding, but more complex testing as You describe above would be unpractical, you'd need a scientific team almost to watch you and analyse the data then it gets too much on that side of things...Mindfulness is just this, Your Aware of all the actions taking place within Yourself, the Conscious and Unconscious come into Awareness, then with a space between what is You and not You Experienced You go from there and live life as You see fit, for sure this will bring about Life Empowering Actions to not only Yourself but to every other life around You...

Edited Thursday at 01:43 PM by Ishanga

[Carl-Richard]

31 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

We can do this ourselves, I watch my egoic reactions daily, I'm out and about in the public allot at work, my ego is constantly judging, constantly evaluating and making conclusions, so we can do these sort of tests internally and be aware of what is what within ourselves, 

That's still what the ego thinks about itself. The ego likes to idealize and inflate itself, it has selective attention and memory, etc., so you will get skewed answers, especially when the answers that are given are extremely simple. And I don't believe such simple answers in themselves give justice to what is proportedly being measured.

 

31 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

its easier of course to do simple tests like the above to get a general understanding, but more complex testing as You describe above would be unpractical, you'd need a scientific team almost to watch you and analyse the data then it gets too much on that side of things...

No, you just need an app on your phone, a smartwatch and maybe an eye tracker that you wear or is installed on your computer. Then the app and the AI does the rest. It's true you would need somebody with some scientific knowledge to create the app and the AI, but once it's in place, it should be very simple.

 

31 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

...Mindfulness is just this, Your Aware of all the actions taking place within Yourself, the Conscious and Unconscious come into Awareness, then with a space between what is You and not You Experienced You go from there and live life as You see fit, for sure this will bring about Life Empowering Actions to not only Yourself but to every other life around You...

Wisdom is being aware of what you're possibly not aware of at any given time.

Edited Thursday at 02:14 PM by Carl-Richard

[Ishanga]

6 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

That's still what the ego thinks about itself. The ego likes to idealize and inflate itself, it has selective attention and memory, etc., so you will get skewed answers, especially when the answers that are given are extremely simple. And I don't believe such simple answers in themselves give justice to what is proportedly being measured.

 

No, you just need an app on your phone, a smartwatch and maybe an eye tracker that you wear or is installed on your computer. Then the app and the AI does the rest. It's true you would need somebody with some scientific knowledge to create the app and the AI, but once it's in place, it should be very simple.

 

Wisdom is being aware of what you're possibly not aware of at any given time.

Who interprets the data, the AI? The AI maybe biased, as it is functioning on data given inputted to it which is biased as well.. Why not just gain some internal awareness and do it ourselves??
 

This is the problem we are looking for outward things to do the work that we can do ourselves.. Ppl go to the movies to be entertained, but we have within Us an Imagination, if You tap into that imagination You can create whatever experience you want to experience, its 4, 5 D, movies are 2D, why downgrade when You do it yourself in a much better way...