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Tony Robins Explains Spiral Dynamics on Valuetainment

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The only time I’ve ever heard TR actually reference SD outside of one talk I remember listening to between him and Wilber. Simplified but succinct, concise, and to the point explanation to PBD. Wasn’t expecting that when I clicked on this.
 


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The first reaction of the host was "wait, green is above orange?" xD

It actually takes balls and skill to present the model to an uninformed audience.

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I NEED M O R E POWAAA

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@RightHand reminded me of the time 10 years ago in Leo’s first video about SD when he was cheekily pointing out ‘yes, green is actually above you. Not below you.’

Granted, I think Tony’s analysis and explanation of Mangione using SD is rather stupid and overly simplistic and just a bad take. But wasn’t expecting that at all. So that was kind of cool. Bad take though imo. 

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Wait, anti-wokeness is lower than wokeness???

:o:o:o


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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29 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@kieranperez Change your title from all-caps or you will get warning point.

can you edit titles?

Edit: you actually can, lol

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From beasts we scorn as soulless, in forest, field, and den,
the cry goes up to witness the soullessness of men.

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I'm amazed by the way he communicated that in this brief way while being very concise and straight to the point without losing someone, who's not heard of spiral dynamics before.


The Secret of this Universe is You.

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Beginning of the end


"Only that which can change can continue."

-James P. Carse

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He's right! Its all about Balance, in another video on this podcast he talks about Needs, everybody has the same needs, (Certainty, Love, Control, Intensity etc), but not everybody values the needs the same, some value Love more than Certainty and so forth, so balance and Awareness are key..

Below all of this stuff is the need to be at Peace, Calm, cool collected, as well as the need to be Everything (Completely Connected, Complete within, Oneness), this is true internal work or Spirituality, and the meaning behind BEINGNESS, which i think has to come first when a Human Being goes out into the world as a adolescent to an Adult.  

Right Now DOING and HAVING are the main value, but as he says, when ppl are completely into DOING AND HAVING, when it comes to them they still feel unfulfilled, there is no BEINGNESS experienced within them, so that is primary because any sort of Experience of Suffering, whether it is full blown Depression, Anxiety or just a feeling of the Blues, nihilism, no goals or intense experience of life/numb, means You are not experiencing any sort of BEINGNESS, which is as I said above, Your at Peace at a Minimum, You feel Connected to most everything around You, intellectually you already see this but it is now coming into real Experientialness within You, Your Clarity of Life is developing, you see the patterns of Life, ppl, situations, the world and how it is working and will work out, things come to you naturally...

BEINGNESS is primary, and is below this blue, orange, red, green, and such stages of Human Development, and has to be done internally via Your own free Will access, which requires Awareness of how this system/mechanism works...Spirituality is all about this...


Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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Here he talks about the 5 element theory in Chinese medicine (Karma basically but with more distinctions), Wood, Fire, Earth, Water, Air and such, 

Good explanation of Basic personality types and how it is built into Us when we are born, this is just the Karma that You have, its like a certain software that is built into You, its slightly different for everyone, which is the beauty of creation, we are unique to one another but the same as well, so once You are Aware of this for Your own self and what others are, its very helpful, but it is still on the level of Survival, some survive in different ways, the Billionaire level of basic Survival for themselves, may be considered a high quality wealthy lifestyle for others, so it varies but its all Survival none the less, its Accumulating and Gathering of Ppl, places, things and Experiences, from outside of Your internal World, but its all Experienced within You..

If You can Control how You are Experiencing Life within yourself, then you beyond all of this... but its good advice and basic knowledge...

 


Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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