What keeps people going through adversity? Maintaining a strong mindset.

[Sugarcoat]

20 hours ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Yes your mind causes suffering,you said if you had a bad day,that means something didnt go as planned which caused you to think in a way that makes you feel a certen way.If you are brushing teeth without a thought and focus only on the act of brushing, you cant suffer from mind.You just need to see the difference between mind action and body action.

When you can see a seperation it will make you present dissolving the suffering.

I find that I can be in an undesirable internal “state” (for example depression, anhedonia, kind of like depersonalization, seemingly independent of outside circumstances) and that if I have negative thoughts they aren’t the cause of the state, but rather they are a response to it and reflection of it. At most they can contribute to the negative state. On the contrary, positive thoughts can’t bring me out of the state but they can have a little boost and help me go through it. A quiet mind and being more present doesn’t get me out of the state either, but it can kinda act like a slight temporary distraction. That’s my experience 

Edited January 19 by Sugarcoat

[NoSelfSelf]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

I find that I can be in an undesirable internal “state” (for example depression, anhedonia, kind of like depersonalization, seemingly independent of outside circumstances) and that if I have negative thoughts they aren’t the cause of the state, but rather they are a response to it and reflection of it. At most they can contribute to the negative state. On the contrary, positive thoughts can’t bring me out of the state but they can have a little boost and help me go through it. A quiet mind and being more present doesn’t get me out of the state either, but it can kinda act like a slight temporary distraction. That’s my experience 

This is really complex topic it takes alot of time to become aware.

Mind will always create problems no matter who you are so its about active thinking and not just reacting. 

At this point its really tough to explain that inner direct experiences, its like one cant explain it clearly, its key to see it for yourself.How you see it is on you.

Edited January 19 by NoSelfSelf

[UnbornTao]

A new "answer" to the question "What keeps people going through adversity?":

Life does, and everyone struggles. 

[Sugarcoat]

38 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

A new "answer" to the question "What keeps people going through adversity?":

Life does, and everyone struggles. 

Yea I know. 

[Sugarcoat]

48 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

This is really complex topic it takes alot of time to become aware.

Mind will always create problems no matter who you are so its about active thinking and not just reacting. 

At this point it’s really tough to explain that inner direct experiences, it’s like one cant explain it clearly, it’s key to see it for yourself.How you see it is on you.

It can be hard to comment on something when you don’t know what they’re going through but I know you’re speaking in general terms 

When dealing with physical stuff it’s different

I experience that certain states can be experienced as negative irregardless of mind activity 

But yea I’ve been trying to think more actively in a “strong” way to deal with this

Self awareness is key yes