Elon Musk Shenanigans thread

[Joshe]

@Alexop

Jesus dude. The projection and assumptions are insane. I have zero problem with capitalism. I like capitalism and I have no problem with rich people whatsoever. I myself want to be rich and I'm glad I live in a capitalist society. 

Turns out, it's possible to criticize Musk outside of an anti-capitalist worldview. The fact that that's where your mind goes shows you're the myopic one, but don't worry, you're not alone. 

[Lyubov]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He's not honest. He says what he needs to to manipulate the public to help his business projects. This is why lies about stuff like full auto driving, etc.

He doesn't mind lying as long as it pushes his agenda forward.

Well sure, I meant just relative to Trump. Elon planted better seeds in his life so his fruit is sweeter and I do see of a higher vision compared to Trump. Trump is entirely a mafia cretin that wants to enrich his family first and has an egomaniac view like he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Elon does to a large extent to but you don’t go into green energy and tech valuing the same things as Trump. That automatically makes Elon slightly more honest but to be honest myself I don’t think it’s all that much. 

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, Lyubov said:

Well sure, I meant just relative to Trump. Elon planted better seeds in his life so his fruit is sweeter and I do see of a higher vision compared to Trump. Trump is entirely a mafia cretin that wants to enrich his family first and has an egomaniac view like he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Elon does to a large extent to but you don’t go into green energy and tech valuing the same things as Trump. That automatically makes Elon slightly more honest but to be honest myself I don’t think it’s all that much. 

What about Elon cozying up to AFD in Germany and Farage and that other guy in prison in the UK?

[Lyubov]

@Leo Gura when do you think Trump and Elon will fall out? I don’t see Trump standing by while Elon takes more and more of the spotlight. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

Great video on Elon.

 

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

Well sure, I meant just relative to Trump. Elon planted better seeds in his life so his fruit is sweeter and I do see of a higher vision compared to Trump. Trump is entirely a mafia cretin that wants to enrich his family first and has an egomaniac view like he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Elon does to a large extent to but you don’t go into green energy and tech valuing the same things as Trump. That automatically makes Elon slightly more honest but to be honest myself I don’t think it’s all that much. 

Elon is less corrupt than Trump. Sure. Trump is a pure bullshit artist. Elon dabbles in bullshit.

Trump is Emperor Palpatine and Musk is young Anakin, dabbling in the dark side.

Edited 11 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Lyubov]

Just now, PurpleTree said:

What about Elon cozying up to AFD in Germany and Farage and that other guy in prison in the UK?

I think behind closed doors Elon thinks he’s above these guys and that they are stupid and easily manipulated. I do think he shares some of their values but he is on his own path as an oligarch and he will side with whichever side allows him to do that.

[PurpleTree]

I think democracy is one of the most important things we have. Maybe thee most important. When the Elon attacks democracy in Europe and elsewhere, doesn’t that automatically make him very dangerous?

[Alexop]

18 minutes ago, Joshe said:

@Alexop

Jesus dude. The projection and assumptions are insane. I have zero problem with capitalism. I like capitalism and I have no problem with rich people whatsoever. I myself want to be rich and I'm glad I live in a capitalist society. 

Turns out, it's possible to criticize Musk outside of an anti-capitalist worldview. The fact that that's where your mind goes shows you're the myopic one, but don't worry, you're not alone. 

You can criticize him from many perspectives. But when a person becomes very famous and powerful, he or she did something of value. He might have just been the right person at the right time, but he did something of value to many people. I personally don't like him and I don't give a damn about his companies. The chinese are now overcompeting him in electric cars and soon in other fields I am sure of that. 

Trump is another fool that brought a lot of value to many people. We can criticize him all day, but he inspired people with his charisma, nostaliga for the once Great America etc. What we perceive as devilry, can be perceived as valuable by others.

Edited 11 hours ago by Alexop

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

I think democracy is one of the most important things we have.

Had. We had.

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, Alexop said:

Trump is another fool that brought a lot of value to many people. We can criticize him all day, but he inspired people with his charisma, nostaliga for the once Great America etc. What we perceive as devilry, can be perceived as valuable by others.

The irony is that low consciousness people do find value in devilry, like Trump's fake TV show.

But many of Trump's schemes were just theft and value-stealing. So Trump and Musk are not alike in that regard. Musk does legit business. Trump is a con-artist with a TV show.

Edited 11 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Alexop]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The irony is that low consciousness people do find value in devilry, like Trump's fake TV show.

But many of Trump's schemes were just theft and value-stealing. So Trump and Musk are not alike in that regard. Musk does legit business. Trump is a con-artist with a TV show.

Yup, Elon is a next level bullshiter. Level: "I offered some good value, now I'm gonna bullshit you".

[PurpleTree]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Had. We had.

That’s dark.

[StaraX]

30 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Elon is less corrupt than Trump. Sure. Trump is a pure bullshit artist. Elon dabbles in bullshit.

Trump is Emperor Palpatine and Musk is young Anakin, dabbling in the dark side.

Except Palpatine is highly intelligent, strategic, and visionary. The way he executed his revenge was like a virus infiltrating a cell - step by step, investing years before taking any direct action.

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, StaraX said:

Except Palpatine is highly intelligent, strategic, and visionary. The way he executed his revenge was like a virus infiltrating a cell - step by step, investing years before taking any direct action.

Analogies only go so far.

Palpatine also wasn't fat and orange.

[gengar]

"You could start a $1B AI company today. But you won't. Because you have neither the vision, nor the skill, nor the intelligence, nor the work ethic"

"It means fucking survival and power!"

(Like survival and power is not a fantasy, lol)

"Elites are physically stronger, more physically attractive, more ambitious, more intelligent, more talented, healthier, better educated, more responsible, harder working, and even genetically superior to non-elites"

Notice how he is surely turning into a eugenicist, under the guise of "truth seeking". He pretends that the truth of the world, evolution and darwinism are true because they are empirically true, and if you don't deem weaker people to be genetically inferior, you are upon falsehood. This has nothing to do with spirituality. The empirical truth of the world is not the whole truth, it's only what has worked in the past. People like Jesus understood this, that you have to fight the darwinistic original sin with the power of imagination, to transcend selfishness. Spiritual leaders fight against the current of the harsh darwinistic world, using the "fantasy" that all people are equally valid and are not inferior because of genetics. The darwinistic world is fake and not true, just more peristent than a hippie fantasy currently is. Concsiousness can grow a hippie fantasy into a real reality, but Leo only deems things true if they are already so in the world. If I would make a simulation right now where shitting on people's heads gives you more survival power Leo would deem it to be true. He's growing a green shadow.

There is nothing inferior about someone in a wheelchair, and this is true because all selves are equally valid to God. But Leo somehow forgot about this, drowning himself in the darwinistic nature of our world, and seeing it as truth. He's becoming a servant of the Demiurge now, no longer to God. 
All his values he talks about in this thread like survival and power are equally imaginary as a hippie fantasy, except that a hippie fantasy is based on the truth of universal love, and Leo's worldview on the lie of matter, material superiority, which culminates in the eugenicism of "genetic superiority". Survival is absolutely not true and any spiritual leader fights against the beast of pure survival drive. We came from this drive, but our compass should always be to completely transcend it as much as we can. 

Leo has the balls to claim a hippie fantasy is more imaginary than evolution and genetics. The balls! and to beat your more developed forum members over the head with it, claiming they should instead submit to the fact that elon musk is somehow a value bringer because he shoots rockets into the sky and brings survival power. We have all the survival power we need already, there is enough food for everyone already. Nobody cares about your eugenicist futurism fantasies except fellow eugenicists.

Even a nazi is better than a eugenicist, since he simply finds his own people to be superior, it's just classic survivalism. But a eugenicist like Leo truly aligns himself with the harshness of darwinism and sees it as true. deems weaker humans to be inferior. It's the worst of the worst.

Let's repeat this quote that I just read today, infuriating me to levels beyond belief:

"Elites are physically stronger, more physically attractive, more ambitious, more intelligent, more talented, healthier, better educated, more responsible, harder working, and even genetically superior to non-elites"

"genetically superior to non-elites"

"genetically superior to non-elites"

"genetically superior to non-elites"

"genetically superior to non-elites"

I guess it's true you either die a hero or live long enough too see yourself become the villain. And I mean that absolutely unironically and literally. There is nothing funny about what's happening here. The fucking balls to claim genetic superiority and align yourself with evil, submitting yourself to them even. This is literal LOTR Sauron shit. The fact that he doesn't see this obvious grave mistake is fucking baffling. It makes me physically sick. 

If we want a world free from the darwinistic drive, where people like Elon musk shit on the little folk and "spiritual", "truth-seeking" people like Leo deem him to be genetically superior, because of the past success of devils like him, fantasy and consciousness is exactly what we need to transcend it. Everything good created in this world was once a fantasy. A human like Leo has absolutely no clue what's possible for the future, yet pretends he does, simply because evil people have ruled the world since the dawn of time. This is sick, sick sick what is happening here. 

[The Crocodile]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Analogies only go so far.

Palpatine also wasn't fat and orange.

Palpatine was hot.

[PurpleTree]

It wasn’t funny after a while so i deleted it.

 

Edited 9 hours ago by PurpleTree

[The Crocodile]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

The irony is that low consciousness people do find value in devilry, like Trump's fake TV show.

WHAT!?!?!?! THat was fake???? What about his inspiring advice like, "Always make sure to talk to the boss."

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Musk is young Anakin, dabbling in the dark side.

Dark gothic MAGA.

[gengar]

The sickest part of all is that it's done under the guise of "hardcore truth seeking". 

The blackpilled analysis would be true if it is done to see the state of the world for what it is, so we can better it, but Leo doesn't do that. He truly believes it is good because it is the way it is. This is submitting yourself to a potential demiurge. You have no clue whether we are in a simulation right now that doesn't reflect the highest God. The highest God resides in the realm of potentiality (Fantasy) and Love. 

If I would make a cat torture cellar right now the cats would deem it to be true, and cat-Leo as well, not seeing that it is not a reflection from the highest God, but made by me, a demiurge-torturer. Leo does not accept this truth, and actually thinks the empirical truth of the world should not be fought against with consciousness and love. instead we should accept that elites are superior because they have empiraclly more survival power. 

Nowhere in his blog posts or forum posts does he say we should use Love to fight the world and it's darwinistic nature. It reeks of submission to what has already been; namely a harsh world. This is the sneakiest self-deception he has ever done.
 

Edited 9 hours ago by gengar