Elon Musk Shenanigans thread

[Bobby_2021]

Gates is definitely an incredibly smart man. He was one of the people who knew how to code at a time most people hardly knew about computers.

When I was doing coding job I noticed that people who were lucky enough to have a laptop or a computer while growing up were significantly better at their job than someone who got laptop later in their life. It's not merely that they are just too smart or worked hard, but the right combination of all of those including having support of parents. They are not inherently better at value creation.

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

They are not inherently better at value creation.

Yes they are.

This does not contradict having good starting conditions.

Many people had computers and did nothing with them. Still the case today.

You could start a $1B AI company today. But you won't. Because you have neither the vision, nor the skill, nor the intelligence, nor the work ethic.

Edited 6 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Twentyfirst]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Your whole life has been a candle in a rainstorm. Appreciate it while it lasts.

Blog worthy 

[Joshe]

16 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Joshe How many mouth you feed? 1? Musk feeds thousands.

True. 2 mouths actually. Sometimes 3... if you know what I mean. haha 😏

Listen, I think you guys think I'm something I'm not. I'm not a hippy with an ax to grind with Musk. I simply have ideas that don't square with yours and when I press to understand them or to make you understand, you seem to mistake that for me having an ax to grind. 

I refute the notion that Elon is some freak phenomena and I refute that his value to humanity is as significant as being claimed. I've laid out my reasoning for both and it's not yet been met with a worthy counter, so... 

 

[Joshe]

15 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

Gates is definitely an incredibly smart man. He was one of the people who knew how to code at a time most people hardly knew about computers.

When I was doing coding job I noticed that people who were lucky enough to have a laptop or a computer while growing up were significantly better at their job than someone who got laptop later in their life. It's not merely that they are just too smart or worked hard, but the right combination of all of those including having support of parents. They are not inherently better at value creation.

[Lyubov]

I actually was pondering this earlier and I do believe Elon does have some higher goals and visions and is definitely not cut from the same cloth as Trump. Elon is definitely unaware of how corrupt he himself is and how he skews his bias in favor of his companies, moralizing them. But he does hold higher values. You don't do space travel or create electric vehicles valuing the same things as a banker or oil tycoon. 

As for Trump? He is a deeply corrupted, a much lower conscious, selfish man, as much as I find a hierarchy of consciousness to have it's own problems, it's applicable here. 

Quote

 

The third stage: so thick it is formless, so black it is colorless—the highest level. This is the level of seemingly virtuous men who can ruthlessly pursue their own ends while being extolled by their victims for their virtue. Some of our politicians, from the past to the present, have achieved such a state.

Chu, Chin-Ning. Thick Face, Black Heart: The Warrior Philosophy for Conquering the Challenges of Business and Life (pp. 16-17). (Function). Kindle Edition. 

 

This is Trump, I think Elon sees himself as smarter than Trump due to his technical and business abilities which actually did harness and create genuine value, as apposed to Trump's who was a reality tv star and scammer largely before he became president. Elon thinks he can manipulate Trump and instill some of his higher values such as electric vehicles and technological advances into this administration. Trump is not dumb either, he is definitely aware of Elon's motives, their partnership is more so out of shared advancements where they overlap and loosely over shared values. Elon is popular enough to keep him safe from being thrown under the bus by Trump (for now). Bannon has already been eaten by Elon, he has established himself firmly in this movement and Trump knows he needs Elon for this to be a success politically and in public image.  

Edited 5 hours ago by Lyubov

[Leo Gura]

@Joshe Musk invested his entire savings of $100M into SpaceX and they came 1 rocket failure away from bankruptcy.

You have no comprehension the kind of balls and vision that takes.

So blabbermouth less and listen more.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Lyubov]

I just realized, the way to cripple this administration is to actively stoke division in it, opposing it I think at this time is pointless while Dems lack a clear message / alternative to offer. 

Someone get Elon and Donald arguing!

[Bobby_2021]

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You could start a $1B AI company today. But you won't. Because you have neither the vision, nor the skill, nor the intelligence, nor the work ethic

Technically I already have one, except for the valuation. Along vision, intelligence and the work ethic and proper moral ethics.

But it's not like we have a remote chance of getting funding from these sharks, and even if they do they will burn it to the ground. We goona bootstrap like Gs. 

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

But it's not like we have a remote chance of getting funding from these sharks

What you have are hippie excuses, no goods. That is why you are powerless and Musk is in the White House tonguing Trump's orange ass.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Joshe]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Joshe Musk invested his entire savings of $100M into SpaceX and they came 1 rocket failure away from bankruptcy.

You have no comprehension the kind of balls that takes.

Bro, I can see deep into things too. You ain't the only one with insight. I know how much balls that would take... and I don't care.

It's funny... I remember a long time ago in your videos you would say things like "you don't understand" and I liked that because I thought maybe there's something hidden that I could discover and come to understand, because that's what gets me off, but at some point along the way, I realized that that majority of the time you would say such a thing, it didn't apply to me because I actually did understand and I could see what you were seeing. It's true, the majority can't, but there is a minority out there, such as myself, that you might run into from time to time, and your usual thinking they cannot see will not always apply, as is the case here. 

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

So pipe down and open your mind.

My mind stays open. I have no choice in the matter. 

Anyway, that's enough for one night. Peace! ✌️☮️❣️🏳️‍🌈

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Joshe said:

and I don't care.

Yeah, because you don't understand.

[Hardkill]

I wonder what happens if Musk bans all accounts of those on X who speak out against Trump.

[Joshe]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Yeah, because you don't understand.

No, just because I discard it doesn't mean I don't understand. I place no value on balls, bravery, or guts, where there is no integrity. I know full well what it means to sacrifice and risk it all, and I don't care if Elon Musk has the aptitude for doing it. It means nothing. 

Maybe you should ask yourself the question, what does that mean to you? What is significant about that, that he risked everything on SpaceX? 

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Joshe said:

It means nothing. 

It means fucking survival and power!

You live in a hippie fantasy!

[Bobby_2021]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What you have are hippie excuses, no goods. 

I just told you we are going to bootstrap and hit the market directly. If that's hippe for you then so be it. Also everything is 100% Ethical as it can get. 

These billions dollars valuation for the low life AI companies, that never made a penny in profit, are a deal with the devil. Why would I even find this appealing.

[AION]

Just imagine Elon Musk coming across this thread and thinking wtf do these people think they are. 😂

[RightHand]

3 hours ago, Joshe said:

Once you get lucky like that and get your first few hundred million, I get the sense it's not difficult to hire the world's best consultants to guide you in hiring the world's best recruiters to find the best managers to manage other managers to produce whatever you want, but first, hire the best financial consultants to set up investments/money printers so you never run out of money.

 

I did that! (in SimCity)