Truth About Pornography | Dr. Jordan Peterson & Dr. Andrew Huberman

[AION]

Porn preparing you for sex is like saying fake fruit is preparing you for real fruit  while ruining your taste buds 

[Majed]

@vibv Yeah i definitely agree that using your imagination is way harder than porn. 

[Sugarcoat]

In my own experience of consuming porn in my past. I feel it gives you so much pleasure, but then what happens is that your brain gets bored of the same content and you don’t get that much pleasure from it anymore (it’s like how the dopamine centers work or something). So what happens is you need to change the content to gain pleasure. I don’t know how men function, maybe they can switch between different women and gain pleasure from the novelty of that. But what happened to me, and I know that I’m far from the only one, is that I needed more and more hardcore content to feel pleasure. So I (my dopamine centers or something) became desensitized to the normal content. So it can kinda ruin your healthy sexuality in that way. It’s always a risk. 
 

You can prevent this from happening by consuming the porn in moderation, although for me even if I consumed it moderately I still experienced this escalation so I don’t know if that would work. 
 

Doesn’t necessarily mean porn is bad, but it can give you too much dopamine and just fatigue your brain so you need more and more intense stuff

[vibv]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Well, you just demonized porn.

In my book demonizing means to make it out as the root of evil.

[AION]

7 hours ago, Michael569 said:

That had nothing to do with porn, I didn't even get to that part of the full debate. They frequently interrupted each other, talked over each other, irrelevantly bridged over each other's subject of topic. If you listened carefully, sometimes it is as if they both went on their separate side quests. No, this wasn't a good debate. I do like both of them but they work better apart, that's all I'm saying. 

Not that it matters really 

Personally I don't think they went on a side quests. They are trying to connect their fields of study and just brain storming. It is amazing that they do this for free and put it on youtube. Your aversion is definitely something you should look into. It is almost like an addict who doesn't want to hear the music when it is told the truth about their little fun time. I completely take it back if it is not true.

11 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

In my own experience of consuming porn in my past. I feel it gives you so much pleasure, but then what happens is that your brain gets bored of the same content and you don’t get that much pleasure from it anymore (it’s like how the dopamine centers work or something). So what happens is you need to change the content to gain pleasure. I don’t know how men function, maybe they can switch between different women and gain pleasure from the novelty of that. But what happened to me, and I know that I’m far from the only one, is that I needed more and more hardcore content to feel pleasure. So I (my dopamine centers or something) became desensitized to the normal content. So it can kinda ruin your healthy sexuality in that way. It’s always a risk. 
 

You can prevent this from happening by consuming the porn in moderation, although for me even if I consumed it moderately I still experienced this escalation so I don’t know if that would work. 
 

Doesn’t necessarily mean porn is bad, but it can give you too much dopamine and just fatigue your brain so you need more and more intense stuff

That is how it works for guys too. It is called hedonistic adaption.

Edited 17 hours ago by AION

[Sugarcoat]

4 minutes ago, AION said:

That is how it works for guys too. It is called hedonistic adaption.

Cool didn’t know . I’ll look that up

[Something Funny]

@Michael569 I agree, but don't his politics not bother you? I would also like Jordan Peterson if he had more integrity and didn't associate with people like trump and musk

[PsychedelicEagle]

14 hours ago, AION said:

It was sarcasm so I don’t know what kind of epitome it is 🤦🏾

Haha fair. What I meant is, the phrase itself (taking it non-sarcastically) is an epitome of stage orange - that's precisely how a stage orange mind would justify itself.

[AION]

2 minutes ago, PsychedelicEagle said:

Haha fair. What I meant is, the phrase itself (taking it non-sarcastically) is an epitome of stage orange - that's precisely how a stage orange mind would justify itself.

Most people don’t get my sarcasm for some reason 

[LordFall]

Pornography is really good, especially when used to keep down sexual energy to work on more productive tasks! 

[PsychedelicEagle]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

Pornography is really good, especially when used to keep down sexual energy to work on more productive tasks! 

The key there is not wasting too much time. Cum fast and get work done.

[whh2222]

On 1/8/2025 at 0:24 PM, vibv said:

I'm against demonizing things. There is good, sensual and beautiful porn as well as a lot of really bad porn.

lol hell nah 

[whh2222]

anyone who tries to say porn is okay or healthy is a fool. that shit is trash 

[vibv]

2 minutes ago, whh2222 said:

anyone who tries to say porn is okay or healthy is a fool. that shit is trash 

You wanna say the highest act of love on the physical level is ugly?

[whh2222]

2 minutes ago, vibv said:

You wanna say the highest act of love on the physical level is ugly?

yeah bro, ghetto gaggers is the definition of the highest form of physical love. 

[vibv]

1 minute ago, whh2222 said:

yeah bro, ghetto gaggers is the definition of the highest form of physical love. 

I despise that form of porn. But there’s different.. maybe you haven’t found it

[whh2222]

7 minutes ago, vibv said:

I despise that form of porn. But there’s different.. maybe you haven’t found it

I dont care what anyone says. There is no porn that will benefit you or make your life better/healthier. You're foolin yourself 

[whh2222]

Leo talkin about "stay away from watching reels. reels are toxic and unhealthy for you" 

but is like "IIIIIII waaaatch the hiiiiighest quality pornnnnnn!" 

[Hojo]

Porn teaches you to be a cuck. When you have sex you will have erectile problems and it wont be as good as the porno. You treat it as a non sacred act and treat it like a chore or game.You will make up stories that you have too much sexual energy and need to jerk off and will watch porno. You will not know how to talk to women because everytime you talk to a woman you will be picturing them naked and you will cuck yourself for a pixel on a screen, at the same time making you mentally unwell and frustrated. Porno will turn women into sex object in your mind and that can turn into insanity and full mind take over, meaning everytime you see a woman you will think of sex when they are not sex and there is no sex existing in the current frame of existence. This is a deep trap.

Sex is how the universe is made, it is the primary emotion of the universe, everything that exists, and porno is limiting that to a man abusing a woman in the butthole. All of this is negative.

 

Edited 8 hours ago by Hojo

[sholomar]

When you actually can get yourself to sit in a room of your own volition for more than a day (I'm not talking about time between work but actual days off) the emotional shit that floods to the surface and the reset in dopamine that occurs can make the most mundane things come alive again. People really have been drugged into a state of apathy with all the screens, food, drugs, stimulating chasing, hedonism. Leo's older video on the happiness spectrum really rings true.

Anything is fine in moderation, but can you go without it for a week without intense cravings or succumbing to doing said activity? If not you are addicted.  Practice "open focus" while sitting in a room for hours/days but you need to have better programming in place to replace the old habits. Things like new hobbies and visualization are helpful.

Edited 5 hours ago by sholomar