Does hitting on girl's (target) friend work?

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On 10/01/2025 at 1:36 PM, Princess Arabia said:

I keep telling you all, pick up is just reversed gold digging. Digging for pussy. The same rules and lingo apply, just in reverse. OP uses the right term. Stop trying to tell him don't use that word because those women are his targets. He knows what he's saying. He knows his own mindset. Same thing. Use strategies. Hit on the right one. Hit on both and who leaves choose the one that remains (according to a comment here). She's teaching women how to get provider men and she calls them targets. OP's trying to dig for pussy so he calls them targets. Don't butter this shit up. It is what it is.

IMO in both cases referring to 'targets' makes you seem like a scumbag, lol.

Being a 'gold digger' and 'looking for a man to provide for you' are very different. If you are looking for a provider man then you can make the argument that you at least care about the guy you want to take money from. You probably also want to be a traditional wife or whatever where you are actually contributing something useful to the relationship. Gold digger just means you are a leech upon society who wants to do the bear minimum amount of work to steal someone else's money.

Pickup and looking to get laid can be compared similarly to the above example. Pickup is more akin to the gold digger where you essentially sacrifice all integrity in the name of getting laid. It's not really commendable at all. Finding healthy ways to get laid is very different from that.

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[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, something_else said:

Gold digger just means you are a leech upon society who wants to do the bear minimum amount of work to steal someone else's money.

That's just your interpretation and the word has many. The gold diggers themselves don't see themselves as such and the men (believe it or not) that loves these women don't see them as such. It's like I knew nothing about a pick-up community until I joined this forum and also saw one of Leo's videos on the topic. I didn't even know it was a movement. Likewise, most just doesn't understand the gold-digging community. I know the name doesn't sound too enticing and seems to have a bad connotation and we could probably use other words but either way, it's women who are looking to better themselves and their lives, who look, to men who are willing but they have to level up to the status these men are looking for and certain criteria stands. These women are becoming entrepreneurs, owning businesses, going to college etc and the men are loving their companionship and both are in agreement with what each brings to the table. That's just a brief explanation.

The leeches that you're talking about are probably dusty men who want to leech off of women and stay home and smoke weed and drink beer all day while they live off of the gold diggers money. There are so many misunderstandings in life and that's the main reason why I don't care what others think or say anymore about certain things because most are simply just ignorant to the facts or simply have opinions and ideas about a subject that's so far-fetched from the real deal. People will look down on women trying to better themselves and high-five men who just want to sleep around just because they're horny. Go figure.

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[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, something_else said:

IMO in both cases referring to 'targets' makes you seem like a scumbag, lol.

I understand. When I was first watching her videos and heard her referring to these men as targets, I was not uncomfortable with it too until I realize what the term really means and the context it's being used in. Also I've seen where guys also refer to their gold "pussy" digging female targets as such. Sorry, but it is what it is and i don't hold back nor butter shit up or make excuses. Men are pussy diggin. Women are gold diggin. Both are targets. If I'm looking for a husband I'm going to target a man that I deem husband worthy. If you're out looking for a long-term girlfriend, you're going to target areas of common interests, women who are attractive to you etcetc. The mind just doesn't like certain words but when we really investigate, those words are being appropriately used. Sometimes we stumble upon things in life and other times we set out purposely to achieve things and we set our targets as such to try and achieve these things. It's called focusing.

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[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, something_else said:

Pickup and looking to get laid can be compared similarly to the above example. Pickup is more akin to the gold digger where you essentially sacrifice all integrity in the name of getting laid. It's not really commendable at all. Finding healthy ways to get laid is very different from that.

This is why the human species, the ego and the individual who's trying to live a life of integrity and in a moral way often times are the ones riddled with shame and disgust of themselves and their selfish ways and who also often look down on others and feel bad about themselves when they can't live up to their own standards.   

You're saying one should find healthy ways to get laid. What does that even mean. Don't lie - love her/him first- do it only if....i don't even know what that means. You want people who live in an unfair world and a world that all it does is feed the ego's need for more and more and is only concerned with consumers and doers to have integrity and morals when it comes to getting laid. If someone lies to get laid, so be it. They lied. If someone lied to get a job, that would be viewed differently but it's still lying. We try to live with integrity and fail miserably at it only because these things are subjective and not absolute. The more integrous one tries to be, is the more evil they become.

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, something_else said:

If you are looking for a provider man then you can make the argument that you at least care about the guy you want to take money from.

One of the principles in that community is the awareness that men often times don't give a shit about the women they're digging pussy from, so please spare those details. Even on this forum the emphasis is on getting laid more than it is about caring about these women. I'm just trying to show you how you're expecting morality and integrity to work in a world of survival and especially when it comes to sexuality. You didn't even say that these men actually care about the women they're giving money to. It's on the woman to do the caring. Men can not give a shit as long as he's getting his pussy, but the woman is expected to care about the man if he's providing. Fuck me without loving me but I better love you if I'm expecting you to dig in your wallet. I'm exaggerating but it's pretty much the case and what's expected of these women. A man can use you up for his sexual pleasure without giving too shits about you but please make sure you care about him if he's paying your rent or buying you a car. 

Also, it's not about taking money from but more of an exchange. Men don't bat an eye and say they're taking a woman's pussy if she's willing, so why use those words "taking money from" when the man is willing. 

 

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[something_else]

@Princess Arabia I don't mean to sound rude, but you have written a lot of words here without really saying anything or addressing any of the points that I made.

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[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, something_else said:

@Princess Arabia I don't mean to sound rude, but you have written a lot of words here without really saying anything or addressing any of my points.

What's your point. Your opinions VS mine. I'm speaking from experience you're not. You have ideas and opinions about the field and I'm speaking facts and from an insider's perspective.

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[Princess Arabia]

@something_elseI itemized and quoted you and addressed each point individually. If you can't see how and where I addressed your points, then you must be blind. You said I wasn't saying anything. Maybe I wasn't saying anything that made you keep believing in your fantasies about the field but I did say a lot and a lot to debunk what you think you know and your false beliefs. Either way, you believe what you want and I will keep calling shit out when I see it. 

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PUA and gold-digging subcultures both take reasonable impulses and then push them to unhealthy extremes. 

It's gotten worse since 2008. Pre-2008 RSD, for example, was mostly just rehashed Tony Robbins positivity stuff. The dark marketing stuff became useful post-2008 when you suddenly had a lot of unemployed young men with little to do.  Later, people like Roosh V pushed it to even darker directions. 

[something_else]

4 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

What's your point. Your opinions VS mine. I'm speaking from experience you're not. You have ideas and opinions about the field and I'm speaking facts and from an insider's perspective.

A gold digger, by definition, is "a person who forms a relationship with another purely to extract money from them." It's clear that a dynamic like that is unhealthy—especially when you're referring to people as 'targets' to manipulate. You don't need an insider's perspective to see that. If anything, when your survival depends on extracting money from random rich guys then you're likely to be more biased than an outsider.

And yea, lots of men will pursue women like targets, looking solely for sex. And they'll do almost anything to achieve it. I've met a lot of men like this and they lie and manipulate to get a woman home, finish inside her in 3 minutes, and then buy them an Uber home. These guys are exploitative and scummy too.

In one scenario, someone is treated as an ATM; in the other, they're treated like a sex object. These probably aren't behaviours that anyone should be trying to defend or justify.