Does hitting on girl's (target) friend work?

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

You have the right to want to be jealous, just like you have the right to want to be girly in general.

 

What’s your point? Yea ofc anyone has the right to be as one pleases

[Schizophonia]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

What’s your point? Yea ofc anyone has the right to be as one pleases

I didn't read op post before my response.

I take back what i said.

[Sugarcoat]

29 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

I didn't read op post before my response.

I take back what i said.

Let’s see your psychoanalysis response

[Schizophonia]

3 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Let’s see your psychoanalysis response

Psychoanalytic diagnosis of op's level of socialfall-ism.

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Schizophonia said:

Psychoanalytic diagnosis of op's level of socialfall-ism.

Yea 

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

Yea 

Nevermind. 

[EdgeGod900]

23 hours ago, UpperMaster said:

Thanks for reply.

 

@Leo Gura an experienced friend of mine told me that it’s good to make her a bit jealous. Keep her on her toes. 

Fair enough tho. I won’t do that  then. 

ps

im very new to pick up. Idk.

Ok, how do you know if what Leo is saying is correct? You're new to pick up, so how do fuck do you know if what Leo said is correct? You gotta validate for yourself whether it works or not, isn't that what Leo has been fucking teaching ever fucking since?

I'm so fucking done with this forum bro. 90% of yall are plain retarded straight up -- and this is coming from a retard.

[UpperMaster]

@EdgeGod900 your right about validating for yourself. Bit lazy and scared to actually try that's why il be real.

Can you tell me about situations where it worked for you?  (how it activated dormant craziness ahahaha).

Also, I were to experiment right away, how do I know im doing it right.

Edited January 9 by UpperMaster

[mike41]

8 hours ago, UpperMaster said:

@EdgeGod900 your right about validating for yourself. Bit lazy and scared to actually try that's why il be real.

Can you tell me about situations where it worked for you?  (how it activated dormant craziness ahahaha).

Also, I were to experiment right away, how do I know im doing it right.

 

The problem with your current perspective is that you have seen a girl from across the room, know absolutely nothing about her and have picked a target.  Either that or you've just chosen a girl, any girl and she'll do.  Now you are trying to figure out some strategy to get into her pants.

From the perspective of a woman it's just not a good look.  You either don't have good options or don't care about her personality and there's no ambiguity to the situation.  If you accidentally hit on the wrong one, you can't be redirected without making the other girl feel like the second choice.  They know you have done this 5 times before this night and they can watch you try again with the next girl in 5 minutes. 

If you actually gave a shit about those women as people, you would walk up not knowing which one you liked because you'd need to talk and interact with them for a bit before you could even know if you were interested in either one (or both).  From that perspective absolutely hit on both.  You don't know which one is single or which one just broke up with her boyfriend and wants to have some fun or which one is attracted to you or if they'd both like to date you.  The girls will sort the situation out themselves and if you are paying attention and they like you then you are going to be getting funneled towards the girl that is into you and available.

So the "hit on the friend" advice is not the worst... I mean you'll get the occasional girl who is attracted to you and then gets worked up and competitive when you hit on her friend.  You'll lose a lot of others that perceive it as manipulative or as if you just switched targets because you aren't picky.

Why not walk up and just hit on them both and see what happens.  Let go of the outcome and try to have a fun time with the interaction.  I've definitely walked up to two women, talked to both, taken them both out dancing, both of them seemed attracted and got their IG handles and set up a group chat to hang out with both.  One will conveniently not be able to make it and you'll know which one is into you.

[theleelajoker]

On 1/8/2025 at 11:15 AM, something_else said:

Referring to women as a target just makes you sound like a serial killer. And the second quote just sounds extremely manipulative. Pickup is a good thing, but don't let it brainwash you into totally dehumanising women. Yes, if you turn into a sociopath who superficially manipulates women you might get more sex, but this comes at a massive cost to your integrity and you'll probably struggle to maintain any kind of healthy long term relationship with a mindset like that.

Manipulation like this is kind of an unhealthy feminine trait. Focus on developing the basic healthy masculine traits like confidence, leadership, strength, wit etc. and you'll get more sex without sacrificing integrity.

OK after reading all this pick up stuff re "targeting other girl, make them insecure, make her jealous etc"...it's very refreshing to read this and I can 100% confirm it re my own experience.

I used to think and act somewhat in the manipulative or pick-up mindset. Got me now and then sex, affairs or even a relationship or two out of it.  But it was not a good experience. Not healthy at all.  What I attracted what a reflection of my behavior.

This changed 180° when I changed my behavior. I started to be as honest, as authentic, as straightforward as I could be. The rewards was (and is)  the best woman I could ever imagine (better than I could ever imagine, tbh). At the beginning I thought: Can it be that easy in dating? Can it really work that well? Can I really drop all the bullshit and just built a true connection based in integrity? The answer is yes, yes and yes. And funnily, she told me that she wondered the same questions

 

[Princess Arabia]

The jealous thing is if she gets jealous on her own, not you purposely trying to make her jealous. An example is if you're in her company and she sees other females looking at you or maybe you're talking to your mom or sister on the phone and she thinks it's another female.....stuff like that. When that happens, and if it's not in a toxic way, it could be good for the both of you because it can be a test for her to realize she really likes you as long as she doesn't respond in an immature way or confront you about it. She might realize on her own that she was mistaken, and her attraction may heighten when she realizes how the misunderstanding made her feel. 

Trying to make her jealous will not work and only makes her think you're not really interested in her.

[nerdspeak]

16 hours ago, mike41 said:

If you actually gave a shit about those women as people, you would walk up not knowing which one you liked because you'd need to talk and interact with them for a bit before you could even know if you were interested in either one (or both).  From that perspective absolutely hit on both. 

I don't think he needs to care about them as people as he doesn't know them, and many men have a physical type and/or style they're attracted to, and that's okay and not necessarily objectification or anything like that. 

But I do think the whole "target" vocabulary and mindset reeks of thirst. You just have a hypothesis that you might like to talk to this person based on how they look and move -- that's all you've got to go on before you talk to this person. They're not a "target" lmao. 

[Princess Arabia]

I keep telling you all, pick up is just reversed gold digging. Digging for pussy. The same rules and lingo apply, just in reverse. OP uses the right term. Stop trying to tell him don't use that word because those women are his targets. He knows what he's saying. He knows his own mindset. Same thing. Use strategies. Hit on the right one. Hit on both and who leaves choose the one that remains (according to a comment here). She's teaching women how to get provider men and she calls them targets. OP's trying to dig for pussy so he calls them targets. Don't butter this shit up. It is what it is.

[UpperMaster]

21 hours ago, theleelajoker said:

OK after reading all this pick up stuff re "targeting other girl, make them insecure, make her jealous etc"...it's very refreshing to read this and I can 100% confirm it re my own experience.

I used to think and act somewhat in the manipulative or pick-up mindset. Got me now and then sex, affairs or even a relationship or two out of it.  But it was not a good experience. Not healthy at all.  What I attracted what a reflection of my behavior.

This changed 180° when I changed my behavior. I started to be as honest, as authentic, as straightforward as I could be. The rewards was (and is)  the best woman I could ever imagine (better than I could ever imagine, tbh). At the beginning I thought: Can it be that easy in dating? Can it really work that well? Can I really drop all the bullshit and just built a true connection based in integrity? The answer is yes, yes and yes. And funnily, she told me that she wondered the same questions

 

 

very nice post. This is something I was thinking about a lot in the past but in the context of friendships. Some earlier parts of my life, I was friends with some very narcissistic people. He normalized toxic behavior for me and made me think that it was necessary to have good "cool" friend group. 

I never became that manipulative in that sense simply because I wasn't that good at it, but it made me think that if I were to be more manipulative, I could have all the friends I want. 

Later on I realized that's all bullshit. That's sooo bullshit. It's such a retarded and unnececaruly strenuous way to think about frienships. Be nice guy, develop humor and charisma. With some good luck, you can get some very high quality and good friends. 

Thanks for this post, the way you write makes it seem like there is some parallel between my experience with friends and yours with relationships.

[UpperMaster]

6 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

I keep telling you all, pick up is just reversed gold digging. Digging for pussy. The same rules and lingo apply, just in reverse. OP uses the right term. Stop trying to tell him don't use that word because those women are his targets. He knows what he's saying. He knows his own mindset. Same thing. Use strategies. Hit on the right one. Hit on both and who leaves choose the one that remains (according to a comment here). She's teaching women how to get provider men and she calls them targets. OP's trying to dig for pussy so he calls them targets. Don't butter this shit up. It is what it is.

deadass. Also coo video you shared, kinda opens my eyes. Female game defenitly exists. 

[nerdspeak]

@Princess Arabia I don’t really agree, going out to meet partners for casual sex I has been a normal part of Western culture since the 1960s, the pua guys are especially thirsty and weird about it but the behavior they’re trying to optimize is basically normal. Gold digging is not. 

Thank you for sharing the video, quite interesting. 

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, nerdspeak said:

@Princess Arabia I don’t really agree, going out to meet partners for casual sex I has been a normal part of Western culture since the 1960s, the pua guys are especially thirsty and weird about it but the behavior they’re trying to optimize is basically normal. Gold digging is not. 

Thank you for sharing the video, quite interesting. 

Why do you say casual sex is normal but having a guy taking care of you isn't. Gold digging comes in many different ways. The video isn't talking about using guys for money but to have them take care of you if they want you like that. She doesn't promote raw straight up prostitution, she is more about not letting guys use you for sex and to make something of yourself with what these guys give you to be with them. Casual sex is fine if that's what both partners want and the females don't care, but guys taking care of women financially isn't a problem either if both are ok with it. 

You say the pua guys are thirsty, but whose problem is that. The women are thirsty too. Like I said it's the same kind of dynamic, only difference is guys are looking for sex and the females to be talking care of. They're not looking for guys who don't want to take care of women, they're looking for men who do. So why is there something wrong with that. 

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, UpperMaster said:

deadass. Also coo video you shared, kinda opens my eyes. Female game defenitly exists. 

Now ya know. I've learnt a lot about men just from being on this forum; I've also learnt a lot just from interacting with them. It's all about mindset and the type of personality we're dealing with. Not every female is the same, not every guy is the same. The main issue I have with all this is how it seems to be OK for men to want to whore down the town and it's OK, but when women are trying to make a living to take care of themselves and their families in this way and by men who don't mind, it's looked down upon. A female here once  started a thread about putting seductive pictures on Only Fans to try to make a living and she got backlash. Guys talk about cold-approaching and calling women targets to go have sex with them (strangers), and it's the norm. Pick-up is trying to get into female's pants just for the sake of sex, prostitution and gold digging is women trying to get paid to take care of themselves. The former is praised but the latter isn't. It's hypocrisy at it's finest and women aren't standing for this shit any longer. 

Constantly I've seen on this forum how guys are trying to have sex and more sex, not much about caring about a woman's well-being. Nothing wrong with that, but stop calling out women that are trying to get paid. The guys aren't looking for marriage or someone to love, so the moral part of it flies out the window with the judgements.

 

Edited January 11 by Princess Arabia

[whh2222]

Not a big fan of manipulation. 

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, whh2222 said:

Not a big fan of manipulation. 

That's just talk. You're manipulating your way through life whether you realize it or not.