What Is Eternity: Could Reality Be An Accident?

[Breakingthewall]

6 hours ago, Someone here said:

If we live in a multiverse that indicates eternal inflation..then doesn't it mean we actually live over and over again the same life?

Maybe all  matter and particles that makes ''me'' me will fall in the same chronological order which will indicate that I am indeed a product of eternal and infinite energy?

This frightens me..mostly because we are not able to control whether we actually want to exist or not. We are just a product of eternal inflation that always existed and will continue to exist for eternity..thus making us eternal beings.

How I see it's absolutely impossible that nothing repeats itself in infinity because it would be a limit, if something were to repeat itself, reality would be limited to that infinite repetition, so in the infinite multiverses not a single particle is exactly like another, since any particle is synchroniced to infinity, is infinite, then any minimal variation is an infinite variation. But of course, who knows?

Edited Thursday at 07:48 PM by Breakingthewall

[Leo Gura]

25 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

Could you give an example of how to contemplate this further, maybe some questions to start? Sounds like a really interesting aspect of God Realization.

Well, it's just a consequence of Oneness. If everything is One and all difference is imaginary then even the difference between the finite and infinite is imaginary.

Finite IS Infinity.

Ta-daaa!

Edited Thursday at 08:13 PM by Leo Gura

[r0ckyreed]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's the wrong way to think about it. Far too limited.

The right way to think about it is that if all limits are imaginary, then nothing is stopping an Infinite Mind from existing. And so this Mind has existed for Eternity and has always been powerful enough to imagine all things.

You don't need to flip coins to get stuff when you were infinitely powerful from the beginning. Because you even imagine a beginning.

@Leo Gura I was trying to use the atheist argument of life being an accident against itself. However, why does evolution exist and take millions of years? You would think that an infinite mind could just create something instantaneously rather than creating through evolution. I am assuming you are gonna reply with “evolution is imaginary”? I do think evolution is infinitely intelligent. But I can hear atheists saying the source of reality could be dumber than the creation in a similar way that humans create AI, an intelligence more intelligent than its creator. I hope this makes sense. Not that I agree with it but I know some atheists have made this argument that if humans can create something more intelligent than it, then it isn’t hard to conceive of god being dumber than its creation using that logic. 

Edited Thursday at 08:09 PM by r0ckyreed

[Davino]

@r0ckyreed Funny enough, I have forgiven myself of all my epistemic errors, materialist delusions and scientific dogma

But one thing

Just one statement about the nature of Reality

Quote

Reality is random, reality is an accident

How on earth could I ever, EVER, believe such a thing

Literally reality is so intelligent that it leaves me speechless

It's Infinitely Intelligent

Literally at every level you can imagine, everything is being handled in a perfect brilliant way

It's pure Genius

[Davino]

28 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

Could you give an example of how to contemplate this further, maybe some questions to start? Sounds like a really interesting aspect of God Realization.

I cracked the nut when I Awoke to the nature of limits and how this present field of experience is simultaneously a permutation in Infinity and the whole of Infinity itself. There is no way to measure infinity or contrast it with anything else, it's Absolute Infinity which includes Infinite Infinity and limited Infinity.

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[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, r0ckyreed said:

@Leo Gura I was trying to use the atheist argument of life being an accident against itself. However, why does evolution exist and take millions of years? You would think that an infinite mind could just create something instantaneously rather than creating through evolution. I am assuming you are gonna reply with “evolution is imaginary”? I do think evolution is infinitely intelligent. But I can hear atheists saying the source of reality could be dumber than the creation in a similar way that humans create AI, an intelligence more intelligent than its creator. I hope this makes sense. Not that I agree with it but I know some atheists have made this argument that if humans can create something more intelligent than it, then it isn’t hard to conceive of god being dumber than its creation using that logic. 

Reality is inevitable, it's not a creation of god, god is the reality, the only cause is the absence of limits, and that is not something. Infinite being is, and it's manifestation is the infinite dance of reality, it can't not be, then there is not will, the only will is the inevitability of the infinity 

Edited Thursday at 10:10 PM by Breakingthewall

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, r0ckyreed said:

However, why does evolution exist and take millions of years?

It's a good question. Not easy to answer.

Why God created reality in such a particular way is very hard to answer because you'd need omniscience in the macro and micro sense to know.

[Staples]

25 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Why God created reality in such a particular way is very hard to answer because you'd need omniscience in the macro and micro sense to know.

@r0ckyreed

Yep. God is completeness.

You could understand the process of how life developed on earth all the way back to infinity if only one had the ability to do so.

[Ero]

57 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's a good question. Not easy to answer.

Why God created reality in such a particular way is very hard to answer because you'd need omniscience in the macro and micro sense to know.

Which is why both technical and wholistic perspectives are needed. You are not going to understand evolution without first understanding dynamical systems, active inference, game theory, probability and entropy.

[BlessedLion]

8 hours ago, Davino said:

@r0ckyreed Funny enough, I have forgiven myself of all my epistemic errors, materialist delusions and scientific dogma

But one thing

Just one statement about the nature of Reality

How on earth could I ever, EVER, believe such a thing

Literally reality is so intelligent that it leaves me speechless

It's Infinitely Intelligent

Literally at every level you can imagine, everything is being handled in a perfect brilliant way

It's pure Genius

Everyone who think reality is some kind of mistake, accident, or fuck up is blind and unintuitive 

[Clarence]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It's a good question. Not easy to answer.

Why God created reality in such a particular way is very hard to answer because you'd need omniscience in the macro and micro sense to know.

Do you think it would be possible to access the answer to that question with psychedelics?

[Kairos]

13 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

There is a deeper consciousness in which you realize that the finite and infinite are identical, and that you are not a character or pawn but the one and only God.

You are God dreaming that you are finite and limited. And so your dream becomes your reality. Since there is no one to stop you or tell you otherwise.

Yeah yeah just saw your blog post diss on science 👍😂

[Leo Gura]

28 minutes ago, Clarence said:

Do you think it would be possible to access the answer to that question with psychedelics?

Not in a micro sense. In a broad macro sense.

It's not going to be technically rigorous.

Edited 21 hours ago by Leo Gura

[gettoefl]

8 hours ago, BlessedLion said:

Everyone who think reality is some kind of mistake, accident, or fuck up is blind and unintuitive 

The God I come from doesn't know any f-ups. All is top notch. He does permit exploration and experimentation from His charges. He wouldn't be too kind if He didn't. I am empowered to concoct as many meaningless f-ups as I please. To know how good love is I should investigate for a minute how bad evil is. God blesses my every move. Kids do the maddest of things as we all know. One day I promise I shall wake up, put the guns down - seeing their misery, return to the timeless and live happily ever after. Thank you God.

Edited 16 hours ago by gettoefl

[LastThursday]

Two things spring to mind. Eternity requires existence. Is eternity enough to permute an infinite number of things? If there are only a finite number of things to permute, then clearly only a finite number of scenarios can play out.

[Atb210201]

There are no accidents.

Master Oogway

[Ero]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Not in a micro sense. In a broad macro sense.

It's not going to be technically rigorous.

You can still get good insights on the micro level, but one needs to apply rigor to them after. Psychs can serve as both a telescope and a microscope, dialling your consciousness on what you focus.

[Clarence]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Not in a micro sense. In a broad macro sense.

It's not going to be technically rigorous.

But God must know the answers to all possible questions, right? Does that mean we could also know them if we were to reach the most Absolute level of Consciousness and Omniscience? Or would we need to completely forget about ourselves, with no possibility of remembering, to access such answers? But then, it would mean the same as being unable to know.

I don't understand why we can know so much about the macro level but so little about the micro level. This is really weird, as they are both One and therefore deeply connected.

[Ero]

@Clarence You certainly can. Leo has said before that he isn’t interested in the micro, which makes sense for his goals and purposes.

The thing is, I have noticed that micro insights don’t happen in isolation. For them them to be any good, you need to already have a pretty good grasp on the thing that you are examining. “You should first know the rules to break them”, i.e say if you don’t know basic math or physics, I don’t expect for you to be getting fruitful ideas in those.

[Clarence]

@Ero I'm not asking about the micro per se, but about a more fundamental question, which is: why is this reality the way it is? For example, why are we human and not another species? Why do we live in a material world and not another kind of world? Why were we created with such limitations, mentally and physically? Why are we so unconscious and evolving so slowly as a species? Why did we come into existence the way we did, and what was that way exactly? Why are we on this planet specifically and not another? Etc.

I wonder how all of this came into existence, why it happened the way it did, and why it is the way it is. Those are the kinds of questions I'm thinking about here.