How far will Trump go?

[BlessedLion]

8 hours ago, zazen said:

Mexico’s president hits back at Trump - why don’t we call this Mexican America. What time line are we on here 😂

I never knew but Mexico ceded 55% of its historic territory to the US - 15% of US territory today used to be Mexicos.

Everyone gonna be talking about historical claims now lol

It’s kinda cringe though because it’s just showing how much land they’ve lost to the US

[youngonce]

I’ve been seeing this idea floating around that the U.S. might try to “take” Canada, and I honestly can’t help but roll my eyes. As a proud Canadian, I can tell you this: it’s never going to happen. Former Prime Minister Jean Chrétien even addressed this recently, and his perspective really resonated with me. The reality is, Canadians value their independence too much, and frankly, the U.S. would suffer just as much—if not more—if they ever tried to push us around.

First off, let’s talk about Canada’s identity. We’re not just America’s polite neighbor to the north; we’re a country with our own values, culture, and way of life. We pride ourselves on being tolerant, generous, and, frankly, a bit more measured in our approach to things. That’s why Canadians consistently say they’re proud of their country. We’re not interested in becoming the 51st state—and I can’t imagine anyone here taking that idea seriously.

Then there’s the economic angle. Sure, the U.S. might think they could leverage tariffs or economic pressure, but here’s the thing: they need us just as much as we need them. New York relies heavily on our electricity, and American industries depend on the specific type of oil we export. If they cut us off, it wouldn’t just hurt Canada—it would throw a wrench into their own economy. Chrétien even joked that if the U.S. tried to go without our electricity, Trump Tower might have to start running on candles.

And let’s not forget Canada’s global reputation. We consistently rank as one of the most desirable places to live, and there’s a reason for that. People admire Canada’s stability, inclusivity, and overall quality of life. Why would we give that up? The idea of annexation feels more like a bad punchline than a real possibility.

Honestly, this whole conversation reminds me of how resilient Canada has always been. Chrétien brought up how, during his time as Prime Minister, he said no to joining the Iraq War despite pressure from the U.S., and guess what? There was no retaliation. Canada stood firm, and we’ll continue to do so.

So, if anyone out there is seriously entertaining the idea of the U.S. “taking” Canada, let me save you the trouble: it’s not happening. We’re proud of who we are, and no amount of posturing or economic threats will change that!

[Twentyfirst]

@youngonce If it makes you feel better since you guys are white you will get better treatment than the other colonies.

I think with the global rise of BRICS the US is looking for other ways to stay relevant 

Canadians should read the Art of the Deal. This guy in the video talking too much 

I hope all works out fairly for the Canadians! Truly

Edited January 16 by Twentyfirst

[youngonce]

@Twentyfirst

Thanks for your perspective. It’s definitely an interesting take, but I have to respectfully push back on a few of your points.

First, equating Canada to a ‘colony’ and framing this as a question of better treatment misses the core of what makes Canada unique and sovereign. Our history, while intertwined with colonialism like many countries, has evolved into a proud and independent nation—not a subsidiary or an extension of another power. Canadians wouldn’t allow themselves to be treated as anything less.

Second, the mention of BRICS and the U.S. ‘staying relevant’ is a valid global concern, but I don’t think Canada would ever be a piece on a geopolitical chessboard for the U.S. to maneuver with. We have strong international relationships and trade agreements, not just with the U.S. but with Europe, Asia, and other regions. If anything, this makes Canada a valuable ally—not a target.

As for reading The Art of the Deal, I’ll pass, thanks. Canada doesn’t need to adopt an approach based on posturing or manipulation. We value diplomacy and cooperation, and frankly, those values have served us well on the global stage.

Finally, I agree with your sentiment about fairness, but I’d argue that fairness comes from mutual respect and understanding between countries—not one trying to dominate or absorb the other. Here’s hoping the U.S. continues to value Canada as a neighbour, partner, and friend rather than entertaining the idea of control.

[Twentyfirst]

3 hours ago, youngonce said:

@Twentyfirst

Thanks for your perspective. It’s definitely an interesting take, but I have to respectfully push back on a few of your points.

First, equating Canada to a ‘colony’ and framing this as a question of better treatment misses the core of what makes Canada unique and sovereign. Our history, while intertwined with colonialism like many countries, has evolved into a proud and independent nation—not a subsidiary or an extension of another power. Canadians wouldn’t allow themselves to be treated as anything less.

What does it mean when he's saying he wants Canada to be the 51st state and calls Treduea a governor?

3 hours ago, youngonce said:

Second, the mention of BRICS and the U.S. ‘staying relevant’ is a valid global concern, but I don’t think Canada would ever be a piece on a geopolitical chessboard for the U.S. to maneuver with. We have strong international relationships and trade agreements, not just with the U.S. but with Europe, Asia, and other regions. If anything, this makes Canada a valuable ally—not a target.

I think the whole North America being friends with Europe is a thing of the past. IMO that ship has sailed and is over. I see Europe as crumbling very soon

3 hours ago, youngonce said:

As for reading The Art of the Deal, I’ll pass, thanks. Canada doesn’t need to adopt an approach based on posturing or manipulation. We value diplomacy and cooperation, and frankly, those values have served us well on the global stage.

Im not saying to read it to use the tactics but to understand his tactics better. Him bringing up this issue before going into office is part of his negotiation 

3 hours ago, youngonce said:

Finally, I agree with your sentiment about fairness, but I’d argue that fairness comes from mutual respect and understanding between countries—not one trying to dominate or absorb the other. Here’s hoping the U.S. continues to value Canada as a neighbour, partner, and friend rather than entertaining the idea of control.

"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal.” Until America is held accountable on the world stage unfortunately they will do what they want. To even have that press conference out in the open should tell you something. No other countries president can casually say that before even entering office and get away with it