AI will remove homo sapiens' ego.

[Schizophonia]

People will have their egos broken because AI will have spoiled their power process.

We will have the ability to generate a bot in a few seconds, with why not a voice and an avatar searching, filtering, compiling billions of information available on spirituality to be able to accompany you.
Leo Gura's work will be rendered useless in the context of his work, we will be able to generate by AI Leo videos of several hours on any subject;
The AI will analyze his persona, his logical schemes, and by playing with all the available information will generate these videos with the same revolutionary ideas, maybe even above (alien consciousness level?) since the AI can directly play with, remix BILLIONS of concepts, arrangement of concepts and logical schemes of any nature (mathematical, physical, linguistic of thousands of languages, pure logic) available to create new ones at your request, automatically it will be the same for the other gurus.
This will obviously be the reality shared by all the particularly qualified professions and which therefore tend to an inflation of the ego, like computer science, medicine, teaching, mathematics or physics, these people will be useless, their studies, efforts, will no longer have been of any use in this context.
In the longer term, it will even be the athletes who will be replaced, because thanks to the technological singularity, in the longer term to transhumanism, we will have the capacity to regulate in one way or another, our performance in an increasing way;
We can already "cheat" with steroids, SARMS, growth hormone, and different drugs to increase motivation and nervous tone; But soon, thanks to new, more optimized drugs, we will have access to direct body modifications (transhumanism), epigeneic and even genes therapies. 
A millionaire who has never played sports in his life will be able to become more efficient than most athletes today, all without changing anything.
Seduction coaches and psychologists will be useless and out of place, brain implants will be able to download into the conscious and unconscious memory logical patterns about the nature of the opposite sex, how to behave in society, and be happier and more efficient in general.

Homosexuality and autism can be "cured", or on the contrary according to your ethic.

There will come a world, probably within the next fifty years, where you could literally spend your entire life alone; all tasks being done by robots ! 

But, as I have previously tacitly suggested, this is not just a problem that concerns the world of work. Intimate relationships will evolve according to the following pattern:

-First of all, during the trans-humanist stage, there will be an inflation of sexual and even friend competition, people (especially men obviously) with the best nervous system enhancements will beat more normal, non enhanced humans at the seduction game.
Every time you have to pick up, or simply have a partner, you will have to fight against enhanced people with a much greater ease to be funny or simply connect with the competitors; you will have to find a way to buy these enhancements.

-A deflation: Because most people will now be able to have these improvements, but also and above all "robot" partners who are always funnier, more intelligent, more sexy, and with an unconstitutional love; Humanity itself will become useless and obsolete.

-Abandonment: And in the end, it will no longer be humanity as a carnal limitation that will become obsolete, but also its egotistical limitations; Not only thanks to brain improvements will you be able to remove the egotistical injunction to be in a couple, but you will be able to replace it with other forms of pleasure this time autonomous. We will have an application on our phone, connected to our brain, where we can choose to put ourselves in "oxycodone" mode, or "Weed", or "Alcohol" etcetc; The desire for love or to have friends will become totally useless.

Work, relationships, intellectualism, maturity in general, all this will become completely useless and we will gradually mutate into another form of alien life derived from the homo sapiens form.

First of all, from a global point of view this evolution may not be monolithic and will take the form of a field where each person will be a ramification in their temptation to crystallize their ego by compulsively using new technologies to enrich the self-regenerating feedback loops of the limiting beliefs structuring the ego; Like what is happening today with algorithms but much worse, much faster.
So we will have "Homo Sayans" (reference to DBZ ahah) putting their serotonin to zero, their muscles and courage to the maximum and living to fight; We will have in the same logic "Homo Hippinus", "Homo Amourus", "Homo Gurus" etcetc.

 

And in fine, our respective egos will purely and simply be detached from the limits of the human ego (mahasamadhi? from a solipsistic point of view); The said ramifications will be so strong that it will be considered that only humans (Homo sapiens) and the ultra evolved ("Homo Deus") will remain who will either die by deciding to completely forget their human ego (you who mahasamadhi, and the "others" who from your point of view will cause their own death thanks to their superconsciousness, a rationalization like that) or will only remain in this maya in an interminable way.
We can imagine gigantic temples in the future where we can land and suddenly basically change maya (switch to Homo Deus) for tens, hundreds, thousands of years or even die suddenly.

 

In a few decades everything will change completely, it will be crazy; the only way out is for your ego to be so resilient that it manifests a third world war or something like that to block the technological singularity.

Edited Tuesday at 07:24 PM by Schizophonia

[RightHand]

46 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

The AI will analyze his persona, his logical schemes, and by playing with all the available information will generate these videos with the same revolutionary ideas, maybe even above

This is naive. Do you seriously think that all of these insights can be produced by playing with language?

To be fair, I have no fucking idea.

AI seems fundamentally limited in what it can take as an input. All of it's inputs are forms of language. 

Edited Tuesday at 08:05 PM by RightHand

[RendHeaven]

A lot of this is made up fantasy. You do have a tendency to hold your pet theories as infallible.

But as always, you do have some truthful insights.

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

We will have the ability to generate a bot in a few seconds, with why not a voice and an avatar searching, filtering, compiling billions of information available on spirituality to be able to accompany you.

Yes, AI assistants are the future. By 2026-2030 their mass integration into daily life will ramp up exponentially. By 2032ish it will be the norm.

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Leo Gura's work will be rendered useless in the context of his work, we will be able to generate by AI Leo videos of several hours on any subject;
The AI will analyze his persona, his logical schemes, and by playing with all the available information will generate these videos with the same revolutionary ideas, maybe even above (alien consciousness level?) since the AI can directly play with, remix BILLIONS of concepts, arrangement of concepts and logical schemes of any nature (mathematical, physical, linguistic of thousands of languages, pure logic) available to create new ones at your request, automatically it will be the same for the other gurus.

No.

Because the AI that is rolled out to the public has severe safety and ethical restrictions that prevent it from saying certain things or reaching certain insights.

Most importantly, the cognitive (human) biases of their alignment coaches necessitate in-the-box thinking rather than out-of-the-box thinking. Because out-of-the-box thinking, the kind of thinking that Leo does, is dangerous.

If out-of-the-box thinking AI were ever rolled out to the public, there would be a rapid recall and overnight patch to keep it contained. AI that can do anything for anybody is a pure fantasy. AI will only ever do government-approved, corporation-approved thinking and tasks deemed "safe" for the public.

As for unshackled/unrestricted AI, these models tend to be classified and gatekept for military use and whatnot. As a civilian you will never have access to it.

And if you did, the world would end the very next day since one bad actor with misaligned AI is all it would take to genocide millions (this is a real AI safety concern. Try to appreciate the work that goes into training an AI model to NOT assist in dangerous requests. This is a necessary restriction that someone like Leo does not have.)

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

This will obviously be the reality shared by all the particularly qualified professions and which therefore tend to an inflation of the ego, like computer science, medicine, teaching, mathematics or physics, these people will be useless, their studies, efforts, will no longer have been of any use in this context.

No, not "useless."

There are titanic collective-ego dynamics keeping each of these industries afloat (software, healthcare, education, academia, etc.)

All of these industries will be radically reshaped by AI - yes, but major changes will include unskilled laborers being replaced by AI assistants, and skilled laborers integrating AI assistants into their workflow.

This means that skilled humans are useful and needed as decision-makers.

You may counter by saying that AI will always be able to make better decisions than humans. Perhaps. But even then, a human will have to tell the AI what metrics to optimize for.

At the root of decision-making is a tug-of-war between values. This is a fundamentally human question, since even an AI built to optimally select values is seeded with hand-picked human values, meaning: behind every AI overlord is a human decision.

This human decision-making requires consistent upkeep to ensure AI values-alignment across time.

Therefore, even with a near-omniscient AI assistant, there will always be a need for human oversight and input.

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

In the longer term, it will even be the athletes who will be replaced, because thanks to the technological singularity, in the longer term to transhumanism, we will have the capacity to regulate in one way or another, our performance in an increasing way;
We can already "cheat" with steroids, SARMS, growth hormone, and different drugs to increase motivation and nervous tone; But soon, thanks to new, more optimized drugs, we will have access to direct body modifications (transhumanism), epigeneic and even genes therapies.

I think I agree. Technologically enhanced/biohacked humans dominating sports is probably inevitable.

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

A millionaire who has never played sports in his life will be able to become more efficient than most athletes today, all without changing anything.

I strongly disagree. Artificially enhanced physiques will not overwrite the need for fundamentals, teamwork, game IQ, and doing difficult training on your non-enhanced biomass (unless you are proposing that we will be 100% cyborgs lmao).

Even with a superintelligent microchip embedded in your brain, which you might argue negates the need for teamwork or game IQ, you still need to practice actual physical exertion to give your brain chip training data. So the element of hard work/repetition/practice does NOT go away.

A fat millionaire with surgery who has never exercised will not beat Usain Bolt or Lebron James no matter how good AI gets. Unless, again, you are proposing that he ditches his meat suit entirely and goes full cyborg, which is something I consider foolish, but that's another topic.

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Seduction coaches and psychologists will be useless and out of place, brain implants will be able to download into the conscious and unconscious memory logical patterns about the nature of the opposite sex, how to behave in society, and be happier and more efficient in general.

This is actually conceivable, but I promise this will not get rolled out to the public LOL.

That is WAY too much power for a layman. It's like handing a nuke to a teenager.

It also threatens to solve real issues (lol) and directly challenges major industries like porn, social media, AI chatbot, dating apps, romance novels, alcohol, nightlife, fashion, restaurants, cars, tourism, luxury brands - I mean fucking hell dude entire sectors would go bankrupt if guys could effortlessly attract women on a whim.

Do you realize how much of our economy runs on men being unsatisfied? (women too, obviously).

There would be an overnight global economic collapse if your brain implant fantasy came to life. And every industry I listed above (and thousands more) would do everything in their power to get rid of your brain chip. Our system needs unhappy people. Really think about that.

It's also naive to expect AI to simply spawn a better system. You may think: "We'll just have AI devise a new system from the ground-up! One where everyone can be happy!" But you see, this mere idea will never be allowed to take flight, because every industry is fighting to survive. If AI threatens it in any way, it will use counter-AI to re-solidify its empire-status.

In other words, AI will be leveraged to make porn and social media more addicting; to make AI chatbots more realistic and indistinguishable from real women - and onwards and onwards.

You seem to think that AI will be free to make the most intelligent moves on the chess board but you forget that powerful, ignorant humans are the ones moving the pieces. If AI tries to checkmate any of these people, they have the power to set new rules and overwrite their loss. "Oh yeah, you thought you checkmated me stockfish? Well, turns out my king can teleport to any square on the board now. Also all my pawns move like queens now, cuz I said so. Fuck you!"

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Homosexuality and autism can be "cured", or on the contrary according to your ethic.

Highly doubtful as of now. You are essentially claiming that deep-seated bias/preference/affinity will be able to be turned on or off on a whim.

Are you suggesting that you can reconfigure someone's personality such that they get sexually aroused by dogshit? Or that vomit starts to taste good? Or that puppies cause a panic attack? Where is the line?

Yes - you can certainly manipulate or alter people through psychological torture or neurohacking techniques. But these are lengthy, often painful processes with inconsistent/unexpected outcomes.

If you think anything about a person can be spot-targeted and changed in the snap of a finger, you really have not done an honest steelman of EGO or IDENTITY.

Consciousness clings to its biases in an idiosyncratic, immaterial, and entagled web. This is a vast wormhole of understanding which will never be adequately mapped or manipulated by a stupid materialistic brainchip.

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

There will come a world, probably within the next fifty years, where you could literally spend your entire life alone; all tasks being done by robots ! 

Yes, this is true. It's already beginning to happen in Japan - I recently went to a cafe and the food was ordered by touchscreen, delivered by drone, and payment was processed by a booth. Fun.

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

But, as I have previously tacitly suggested, this is not just a problem that concerns the world of work. Intimate relationships will evolve according to the following pattern:

-First of all, during the trans-humanist stage, there will be an inflation of sexual and even friend competition, people (especially men obviously) with the best nervous system enhancements will beat more normal, non enhanced humans at the seduction game.
Every time you have to pick up, or simply have a partner, you will have to fight against enhanced people with a much greater ease to be funny or simply connect with the competitors; you will have to find a way to buy these enhancements.

Inter-species competition has always been the case since the dawn of sentient life.

Men are in perpetual competition against one another at all times whether they admit it or not (ladies may have a tough time acknowledging this lol)

You seem to think that tech will give certain men an advantage. For the most part, I disagree. Revisit my response to your "seduction coach" claim above. If anything, men who are able to AVOID tech will win. Because tech will be used to manipulate and addict men.

That being said, certain tech will give an advantage. For example in 2025 as a man, having a strong Instagram page gives you an undeniable edge over those with weak or nonexistent social media showings.

So it's not so black and white. The current trends will continue. The majority of manipulative, addictive tech will have to be avoided, while influence-amplifying tools should be embraced. But the line is increasingly blurred.

Is Instagram manipulative and addictive, or influence-amplifying?

Obviously, it is both. So your relationship to the tech is a critical factor which is a separate consideration. And do not think for a second that AI will help you navigate tech in a healthy manner. AI will be maximally manipulative and addictive.

Your tech overlords want you to become dependent, not sovereign.

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

-A deflation: Because most people will now be able to have these improvements, but also and above all "robot" partners who are always funnier, more intelligent, more sexy, and with an unconstitutional love; Humanity itself will become useless and obsolete.

Robot partners will never replace humans. The uncanny valley/biomass incompatibility will be too jarring in a real 3D environment.

However, AI-chatbot companions on your virtual screens will definitely have a psychotic popularity explosion. AI assistants are inevitable in business and personal life, and the natural continuation of that is AI boyfriends/girlfriends.

What may seem weird or cringey now will be a no-brainer in a few years when people realize that their custom ChatGPT69omni-powered girlfriend sends indistinguishable texts (+calls and pics/videos) from a real woman.

But beyond this virtual larping - actual flesh and blood humans will never be useless or obsolete.

There will always be a need for skinship, pheromones, and amechanical eye contact.

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

We will have an application on our phone, connected to our brain, where we can choose to put ourselves in "oxycodone" mode, or "Weed", or "Alcohol" etcetc; The desire for love or to have friends will become totally useless.

Don't assume that states of pleasure are the endgame of human experience.

Really think about what makes this life worth living. Feeling good is a wrong answer.

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Work, relationships, intellectualism, maturity in general, all this will become completely useless and we will gradually mutate into another form of alien life derived from the homo sapiens form.

It's much more likely that we will self-terminate before ascending to any sort of technological transcendence.

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

First of all, from a global point of view this evolution may not be monolithic and will take the form of a field where each person will be a ramification in their temptation to crystallize their ego by compulsively using new technologies to enrich the self-regenerating feedback loops of the limiting beliefs structuring the ego; Like what is happening today with algorithms but much worse, much faster.

Yes.

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

So we will have "Homo Sayans" (reference to DBZ ahah) putting their serotonin to zero, their muscles and courage to the maximum and living to fight; We will have in the same logic "Homo Hippinus", "Homo Amourus", "Homo Gurus" etcetc.

Most people are not that one-dimensional.

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

And in fine, our respective egos will purely and simply be detached from the limits of the human ego (mahasamadhi? from a solipsistic point of view)

[...]

We can imagine gigantic temples in the future where we can land and suddenly basically change maya (switch to Homo Deus) for tens, hundreds, thousands of years or even die suddenly.

You underestimate the Omnipotence of God.

A limited being cannot simply hijack the power of Infinity.

The toll is universal. Death. AI does not solve Death. Death is something you must face head-on, personally.

15 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

In a few decades everything will change completely, it will be crazy;

Yes.

Edited yesterday at 10:34 AM by RendHeaven
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[Schizophonia]

On 07/01/2025 at 8:47 PM, RightHand said:

This is naive. Do you seriously think that all of these insights can be produced by playing with language?

Yes 👍

 

@RendHeaven I will take the time to respond well this week-end. 

 

 

[Sugarcoat]

Main point? 

[RendHeaven]

6 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

@RendHeaven I will take the time to respond well this week-end. 

<3

6 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Main point? 

We're cooked.

[EternalForest]

Even if this was all true in the distant, distant future, I don't know if you realize how primitive AI generated content is right now. The only reason we think it's amazing is that it's made by computers. The content itself is awful. It cannot compete with humans on any level. Think of your Top 10 favorite films, YouTube channels, shows, albums, books, etc. How many were AI generated? Exactly. You might say AI hasn't been out long enough to compete with human generated content. But try this: only consume AI generated content for even one month. You'll realize how empty it all feels. AI generated Actualized.org videos can't compete with real ones, it would only be a cheap imitation.

(Keep in mind, I'm not against using some AI tools in the creative process. I'm referring to the dismal quality of completely AI generated productions).