Leo, why is reality EXACTLY the way it is ?

[Loveeee]

You previously said : to maximize love

But I mean exactly, down to the words you're reading right now 

If they could be different, why not ? 

If they couldn't, why not ? 

I know the solution 

[Exystem]

Have you ever thought about the possibility that reality isn't exactly the way it is because reality is no exact way? That the moment you try to pin down reality to an "exact way" it aint reality no more? That reality is no specific way, the idea is actually an illusion. The illusion/ego creates/is the apparent "real fixed solidified structure" which is just a joke and its punchline is Now.

[numbersinarow]

1 minute ago, Exystem said:

Have you ever thought about the possibility that reality isn't exactly the way it is because reality is no exact way? That the moment you try to pin down reality to an "exact way" it aint reality no more? That reality is no specific way, the idea is actually an illusion. The illusion/ego creates/is the apparent "real fixed solidified structure" which is just a joke and its punchline is Now.

I haven't. Not necessarily because this is wrong or anything but simply because if you observe a leaf falling, for example, you can tell yourself "My ego and my projections can imagine that it fell another way." but at the same time it fell exactly the way you observed. I could have moved it, let's say, and my mechanism to move it would be the same as my ego observing the actual fall. Why is God completely unable to make things different? Is there more to the statement "Everything is perfect" than the misuse of language? "Perfect" is defined in contrast to something else. Claiming everything is perfect is an ego mechanism. The true meaning of this true could be a true statement, but it's still an ego mechanism.

[Exystem]

5 minutes ago, numbersinarow said:

but at the same time it fell exactly the way you observed.

This is another story of the mind.

5 minutes ago, numbersinarow said:

Why is God completely unable to make things different?

If god was able to do so, how would you be able to get it? Your perception of reality is limited to the idea that things are either this or that. What if it actually is a superposition and the ego is the idea of an observer who collapsed it.

6 minutes ago, numbersinarow said:

Claiming everything is perfect is an ego mechanism.

Claiming this is not?

[Loveeee]

5 hours ago, Exystem said:

Have you ever thought about the possibility that reality isn't exactly the way it is because reality is no exact way? That the moment you try to pin down reality to an "exact way" it aint reality no more? That reality is no specific way, the idea is actually an illusion. The illusion/ego creates/is the apparent "real fixed solidified structure" which is just a joke and its punchline is Now.

For example your shirt being blue instead of red 

[Leo Gura]

The answer is too profound for words.

Awakening is the answer.

[Someone here]

If something exists..then Everything exists. Infinity is the only possibility. Which is all possibilities. 

Infinity is happening. Just like that.

boom boom boom.

Ofcourse this is a conceptualized answer.. So don't annoy me with questions lol.. The intuition grasps it in no time. 

[James123]

7 hours ago, Loveeee said:

You previously said : to maximize love

But I mean exactly, down to the words you're reading right now 

If they could be different, why not ? 

If they couldn't, why not ? 

I know the solution 

Empty yourself. The universe will full it itself.

[Hojo]

The words don't mean anything its the exact same word over and over. Its your interpretation on whats happening. They can't be different because they don't mean anything to begin with.

Edited Tuesday at 06:22 PM by Hojo

[Someone here]

@Hojo Babble about ontology and metaphysics will only waste everyone's time...for or against? Why or why not ?

[Hojo]

@Someone here I dont know whats being asked. It isn't what it is. Reality in the moment is nothing the mind is taking past and future concepts and constantly running with them. You dont have to remeber or know anything about reality and it will still work the same way. The thing you are witnessing as happening now isnt real its just the mind remembering and projecting into the future. If you hold no memory about what is being said its not happening.

The only thing I can come up with is its happening this way because you have memory of it happening this way. You are pulling reality from the void of the present moment that dosent exist. People who say they are living in the present moment are diluting themselves, you cant the present moment isnt even a real thing, its made up like the concept of nothing. If you were living in the present moment you would clearly see you dont exist in a void of nothing.

Edited Tuesday at 06:53 PM by Hojo

[Someone here]

@Hojo I get that . The entire history of the entire universe is a thought you're having now .not what I'm asking .

What I'm asking ..since you said the words are meaningless..if philosophy is just word games ..why are we doing this work? 

[Hojo]

@Someone here To deconstruct your mind. You want to reach the present moment of non existence that's where past and future are coming from. You do this by contemplating, whether someone is right or wrong about God is just a perception. The words have a meaning they just don't mean anything in a linguistic way. The meaning is your interpretation and feeling the word gives you.

Human reality is a word game. You are a word game you are trying to find loops in to expose yourself as a black man inside of a white screen and thats it.

Edited Tuesday at 07:03 PM by Hojo

[Someone here]

@Hojo I reached a Samadhi experience today where I realised there is nothing but Allah.

Thank you sir I don't understand what you are saying. 

[Hojo]

@Someone here Its like you have 3 versions of yourself running in real life

1) you have a present version that dosen't exist its just a void of nothing. You can never reach it because when you do you see its nothing.

2) you have a past where you are thinking about what happened, witnessing what is 'happening', and contemplating.

3) you have a future where you are projecting the future events for survival and desires based on the past.

What humans do is they use these 3 versions of themselves to create an illusion that they exist.

You can never be in the present moment so you are constantly seeing what has happened.

The person is asking 'Why are we seeing specifically this from the current frame of existence.'

They are asking the 1st non existent version of themselves that is creating reality why it is this way from their 2nd past version of themselves perspective. They want an answer so they are also using their 3rd future version to project and answer to their 1st non existent self.

The 1st non existent version of you is the only thing that exists so they are asking a question that no one can answer because they are doing it and witnessing it from their 2nd past version.

Reality is first person only. Its a void of nothing that is flickering past and future all the while not having a present moment and the only explanation being that you are doing it as a void of nothing.

Edited Tuesday at 07:36 PM by Hojo

[Loveeee]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

The answer is too profound for words.

Awakening is the answer.

Yes the answer is beyond words and thought, here's how  

"Reality could be different" is just a thought, an idea in your mind, the concept of "possibility "

What are "possibilities" really ? Are they just flying around ? No ! There is none

Absolute Necessity 

[Loveeee]

I mean I see at least 3 valid perspectives

1 : The Absolute doesn't change and in that way reality couldn't be different 

2 : This is the most intuitive way for reality to be (maximizing Love)

3 : Absolute Necessity 

[Javfly33]

Reality is the way of how you are, because you are reality.

If you get depressed Reality will seem as being shit (in fact it will because You = Reality). If you become happy Reality will seem as like is good. 

Reality is not an absolute definition, is a state of Being, However you vibrate that is what Reality will be.

Edited Tuesday at 08:47 PM by Javfly33

[Breakingthewall]

Reality is exactly as it is because it is the absolute reflecting itself infinitely, in this way apparent movement, appearance of form and time are produced. Movement is relative to a other movement, without it it would not exist since in infinity nothing really moves. Therefore, any vibration of reality must be perfectly coordinated with all the other vibrations of reality in order to appear. "Appearing" is no more real than "not appearing", it simply manifests, because if it were not perfectly coordinated with all of infinity it would not manifest, it would be unmanifested potential. The absolute is the total potential, not the conciousness, the conciousness is an appearance, that always appears because "always" is in the time, and "never" out of the time. The absolute includes both and the unmanifested absolute is just as real as the manifested, since manifestation is the appearance of movement. Then the absolute is the substance, the absence of limitations that has positive momentum because negative momentum doesn't appear, it's nothing. Then the infinity explodes in infinite dimensions infinitely, all of them perfectly synchronized without the slightest deviation, because any deviation would be infinite deviation and wouldn't appears. then the reality manifested is absolutely perfect always  

I deduct it because any other possibility seems impossible 

Edited Tuesday at 09:23 PM by Breakingthewall

[Staples]

Here's a way of thinking about it:

2+2 can't not equal 4.

Distinctions are complete and perfect, unfalsifiable. 

Imagine you plotted every distinction as a point into a 2d cartesian plane.

You can't move a distinction off it's point, because each point is a new unique distinction. The delta (distance) between points is Truth, free of bias or perspective. It can't be changed without defining a new set of distinctions. Each set of distinctions only has one possible configuration.

This plane is infinite, with infinite detail. You can zoom in and out forever. 

It's unbreakable because its not a concept or thing, its a system made up only of consistency, it's non-contradictory.