Shaming non-vegans is not right.

[Schizophonia]

3 minutes ago, AION said:

That is going to take a long time but eventually we will move towards that direction. In the meantime, this thread made me really hungry. Going to get me some Tomahawk or lamb chops tonight...

 

You troll lol but actually i've never seen a video like that with bean bowls.

It says a lot on what foods we really evolved around and therefore developed neurological patterns associated with it in the reward circuit.

 

[Basman]

1 hour ago, Ero said:

Btw, I totally think that lab-grown meat will eventually outperform "natural" meat both in terms of nutrition and cost (not to talk about the land and water). Genetically-engineered fruits and vegetables rich in different nutrients are also not a fantasy - I have classmates at my university working on stuff like that. So I don't think this has to be an idealogical battle, but rather a technological one. 

As nice as that would be, I doubt that it would ever truly replace, be a competitor at best. Growing an animal is way easier. Pigs do what artificial cell culture tries to do by just rolling around in the dirt, eating trash and fucking without having to worry about sterility or having to pay technicians for their 5 year degree.

If you consider that there will always be a market for meat, then there necessarily must be an ideological battle.

Edited 18 hours ago by Basman

[Ero]

@Schizophonia The heavy metals are indeed a reason to significantly reduce your fish intake. That, and the catastrophic effects fishing has (the doc @Bobby_2021 pointed out) are the reason this is not sustainable. 

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

Mmm, heavy metals, my favourite side dish.

It depends on where it is farmed and also on the size of the fish.
You can eat small fish like sardines as much as you want.

Soon we will have ponds with farmed fish inside completely free of heavy metals, it is only a matter of time.

[Something Funny]

1 minute ago, Ero said:

That, and the catastrophic effects fishing has (the doc 

His reward circuit did not evolve to care about that.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

B12 was already answered.

No it wasn't

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Vegetables are full of calcium.

Only some of them, and none of it absorbs very well

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Iron is easy to supplement.

Non heme iron again absorbs badly unlike heme iron from meat and I refuse to be another version of Bryan Johnson. That's an answer to you as well @Ero It's dubious whether any kind of supplementation as we know it today is good for you anyway

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

You still need to take omega 3 supplements, even as a meat eater.

No, you can just eat fish, which is superior to any other source anyway

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Zinc is easy to supplement.

Long term zinc supplementation can cause copper deficiency, disruption of mineral balance, gastrointestinal issues and so on. Why not just be a real man about it and have some meat, instead of being a meatless soyboy

Edited 20 hours ago by NewKidOnTheBlock

[AION]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

You troll lol but actually i've never seen a video like that with bean bowls.

It says a lot on what foods we really evolved around and therefore developed neurological patterns associated with it in the reward circuit.

 

That is why the vegans try to make look everything like beef or chicken to trick their mind but you can't fake it to the body. 

[Ero]

2 minutes ago, Basman said:

Growing an animal is way easier. 

Lab grown would be fully automated. No salaries to pay, no food and land necessary. The mass meat industry will simply be undercut. There will probably still be some high-end, "free-roam" animal industry for all the rich people who would like to eat the real thing. 

[Something Funny]

Just now, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

No it wasn't

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Not my fault you can't even read. It was answered.

[Ero]

1 minute ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

I refuse to be another version of Bryan Johnson.

That's actually funny. It trips me up that a person who speaks of longevity and life-long well-being looks like a vulture.

[Something Funny]

5 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Why not just be a real man about it and have some meat, instead of being a meatless soyboy

That's what this all is about. You guys don't give a shit about nutrition or actually finding out what is healthy or not. 

You are just insecure in your masculinity and feel the need to overcompensate.

Chimps, lol.

[Schizophonia]

12 minutes ago, Ero said:

@Schizophonia The heavy metals are indeed a reason to significantly reduce your fish intake. That, and the catastrophic effects fishing has (the doc @Bobby_2021 pointed out) are the reason this is not sustainable. 

Most of the fish found in France is local or imported from Scandinavia.
Don't watch alarmist documentaries filmed in the China Sea for vegan propaganda purposes, and even there they finally manage to more or less manage the reproduction of the species and stabilize their production.

 

Edited 20 hours ago by Schizophonia

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

That's what this all is about. You guys don't give a shit about nutrition or actually finding out what is healthy or not. 

You are just insecure in your masculinity and feel the need to overcompensate.

Chimps, lol.

Well I mean, it's not that much about insecurity but one must wonder, if vegan diet makes you literaly objectively physically weaker then logically the term soyboy would be accurate, not only because you likely literaly eat soy on a semi regular basis but also because of these aforementioned deficiencies. I mean I would certainly equate manliness much more with a diet that involves meat than the one that lacks meat

[Schizophonia]

5 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

That's what this all is about. You guys don't give a shit about nutrition or actually finding out what is healthy or not. 

You are just insecure in your masculinity and feel the need to overcompensate.

Chimps, lol.

He trolls a bit but you indeed want a good testosterone and muscle composition even for your health. 

[Something Funny]

Its ironic that this obsession is what makes you less masculine and actually an antithesis to what a real man is.

A man is supposed to be confident, stoic, able to endure harsh conditions, grounded in higher values, thinking big vs focusing on petty things. 

And you are obsessed with your looks, like a little girl, living in comfort, and stuffing your belly.  Those are all feminine qualities.

God forbid someone thinks that your muscles are not big enough.

God forbid people think that you are a soy boy. You are so afraid of it, you think it is some bad insult, lol.

You are obsessed with external opinions instead of being grounded in your own principles.

All about pretending and not being.

Pathetic

Edited 20 hours ago by Something Funny

[Something Funny]

@Schizophonia my testosterone if fine and so is my muscle condition, thank you.

[Schizophonia]

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Schizophonia meat has even less than 350 ckal?

More according to the amount of fat + it's way easier to eat 100g of meat that 100g of beans weighed raw.

30 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Yes, you also have other legumes, and nuts, and grains, and oils, and seeds.

Yes of course, if you can do it that way it's great. My point is that eating like that is more expensive and basing your diet on beans or grains is full of problems.

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

@Schizophonia my testosterone if fine and so is my muscle condition, thank you.

That was his point eheh, personally i don't care about testosterone levels, all i care about is well-being and enjoying a practical diet.

[Something Funny]

I will leave this life aligned with truth and love, having contributed to a better world for my children. You will die a pathetic hedonist.

[AION]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

That was his point eheh, personally i don't care about testosterone levels, all i care about is well-being and enjoying a practical diet.

Our vegan Batman is probably suffering from male breasts hence the projection