5-MeO without trip sitter ?

[Clarence]

4 hours ago, Loveeee said:

Freebase is all I found but looking for ways to convert it to HCL / salt, made a new topic 

You don't need to convert it. I also have the freebase version. You just need to use some vinegar to dissolve it, stir for a minute or more (add vinegar again if needed, but know that it takes some time). Then you add a few drops of water so it doesn't burn, and that's it. It works perfectly.

I feel a very slight burn because I use very little liquid, but you could use a bit more water or coconut milk as I read—personally, I didn't want to buy some just for a few drops. But the burn is nothing to be concerned about. It just lasts for a few seconds and it doesn't really hurt.

Here are the pictures from my very first time on 5-MeO-DMT. There was a big chunk in it, but it dissolved like the rest.

Edited February 12 by Clarence

[Loveeee]

@Clarence

What about proportions ? What do you do once it's dissolved ? What's that syringe for ? 

Edited February 13 by Loveeee

[Clarence]

8 hours ago, Loveeee said:

What about proportions ? What do you do once it's dissolved ?

There's no need to measure the vinegar. Just add a few drops and stir until it dissolves. It's very simple.

Then add a few drops of water so the vinegar is diluted.

8 hours ago, Loveeee said:

What's that syringe for ? 

For plugging, that was the topic of the last message you tagged me in. You should watch Leo's plugging video to hear all the details, then you'll be totally ready to use this method.

As we were saying, it might be better to plug than to smoke as a beginner to have full control of all parameters and a more gentle come up. Though, it will still hit hard and soon after, so get ready.

Edited February 13 by Clarence

[Loveeee]

@Clarence Thanks a lot ! What type of vinegar do you use ? What is the dose range when plugging ? What about you, and how many times have you done it ? How often ? 

Btw that is a conversion to salt (chatGPT) :

Adding vinegar (acetic acid) to 5-MeO-DMT freebase converts it to its salt form because of a simple acid-base reaction. Here’s how it works:

1. Freebase vs. Salt Form

Freebase: 5-MeO-DMT freebase is a non-ionized, lipophilic (fat-soluble) form, making it more suitable for vaporization but less water-soluble.

Salt Form: When protonated by an acid, it becomes ionized and water-soluble, which is useful for oral, intranasal, or intramuscular administration.

2. Acid-Base Reaction

5-MeO-DMT has a basic amine (-NH) group.

Acetic acid (from vinegar) donates a proton (H⁺) to the amine, forming a positively charged ammonium ion (R-NH₂⁺).

This results in 5-MeO-DMT acetate, which is water-soluble.

3. General Reaction Formula

5-MeO-DMT (freebase) + CH₃COOH (acetic acid)→ 5-MeO-DMT acetate (salt)

4. Why This Matters

The salt form is more stable and bioavailable in water-based solutions.

It is better suited for oral, intranasal, or injectable use, whereas the freebase is better for vaporization.

In short, adding vinegar protonates the freebase, forming a soluble salt (acetate) through a simple acid-base neutralization reaction.

 

Edited Friday at 10:20 PM by Loveeee

[Clarence]

15 hours ago, Loveeee said:

@Clarence Thanks a lot ! What type of vinegar do you use ? What is the dose range when plugging ? What about you, and how many times have you done it ? How often ?

You're welcome.

I use the white vinegar I have at home. It is 7 or 8 % alcohol.

Leo recommends starting with 10 mg. It's a good starting dose to test out the substance. So that's what I did (I started with 12 mg). Then I did 17, 20, 25 and 30 mg. In between, I tripped with 5-MeO-MALT and then I took other psychedelics.

So basically, you can start with 10 mg and increase by 5 mg until you reach a full breakthrough. I get pretty decent trips with 20-25 mg, but the more I take, the more intense it is (obviously). I will trip again on 5-MeO-DMT soon.

If you're interested, I started a thread where I write about my journey with psychedelics (here).

I personally trip whenever I have the possibility. It changes every week. I haven't had the possibility to trip more than 3 times a week. But you will feel what frequency is right for you. You might feel the need to wait for a week, or you might be ready to trip again the next day. It will all depend on your trips and your mood. If you're not in the mood to trip, it's better to wait until you are (if you can).

[Holymoly]

On 2/9/2025 at 8:56 AM, Loveeee said:

Anyone else here takes 5meo without a sitter ? I'm hesitant because of that, and the fact that it's potentially lethal if you weight it wrong or whatever, unlike acid or shrooms 

Btw I'm talking about the freebase/smoking way

I take it without a trip sitter 5meo I feel the danger that your actually going to die is not huge so I just leave it up to fate. I don’t know people who I feel like I want to do it with but of course it might be helpful at times depends who though I would like to take 5meo with Buddha holding space haha