How would enlightenment look for woman ?

[Howtolive]

I have now often heard that enlightenmnet is more natural for woman. But I dont get that statement at all.
From my experience woman are often are further away when it comes to facing reality. I see them often more going for what feels good instead of the raw truth.
I am not saying that to be judgemental but isn't that in the way of getting enlightent?

Also it seem like that woman are more followers by nature. So they like being more in set up system instead of really questioning the ongoing system. 
Also @Leo Gura said in one post that they are more easlie influenced.

Also the tendency that woman like to work much more with emotions which tend to get a biased view on reality.

Wouldnt a woman who conquers all her fears etc be also more masculine? 


Thanks !

Edited January 5 by Howtolive

[Twentyfirst]

35 minutes ago, Howtolive said:

I have now often heard that enlightenmnet is more natural for woman. But I dont get that statement at all.
From my experience woman are often are further away when it comes to facing reality. I see them often more going for what feels good instead of the raw truth.
I am not saying that to be judgemental but isn't that in the way of getting enlightent?

Also it seem like that woman are more followers by nature. So they like being more in set up system instead of really questioning the ongoing system. 
Also @Leo Gura said in one post that they are more easlie influenced.

Also the tendency that woman like to work much more with emotions which tend to get a biased view on reality.

Wouldnt a woman who conquers all her fears etc be also more masculine? 


Thanks !

Eckhart Tolle says in one of his books that women can get enlightened easier because they are closer to the heart. But maybe he said that just to get laid! Lol JK

Actually some of the best Gurus I have learned from were women. But if you have a woman guru you may need some sort of masculine teaching on the side to not get soft. But even without that it has worked really well for me. 

 

 

[Ishanga]

There are Masculine and Feminine traits - 

Masculine

Associated with logic, reason, action, and achievement, masculine energy is about doing. Some traits of the divine masculine include being responsible, courageous, and solutions-oriented.

Feminine

Associated with intuition, creativity, emotional intelligence, and nurturing, feminine energy is about being. Some traits of the divine feminine include being expressive, flowing, and intuitive.

This has nothing to do with Being Male or Female, as both have aspects of this within their systems and Potential. 

If one is Totally Masculine orientated then they probably will not realize their Enlightenment, same with Feminine, its just that Feminine being Associated with BEINGNESS, it is slightly more Receptive in Nature, but both Qualities have to be in Present Awareness within Someone, once that happens and its balanced then Enlightenment is soon to be upon them for sure!

[Sabth]

I am born neutral /masculine. Until after i took art. Mentally im a stereotypically a man but im a woman. So whatever that is i am is a woman. I am very feminine. Just a t instead of a feeler. But ive been raped recently so i cant say for sure. Even before even if i had become more of an f than a t it was still within myself. Reason. But not until those raped me. Whoever they are i became as ugly as they are. 

[Someone here]

 Actually it's easier for women.  The feminine is naturally more enlightened than the masculine .

Enlightenment in a sense is a process of unconditional love towards reality. The only thing separating you from God is that God loves everything but you have discrimination. 

The feminine is naturally more open and receptive and loving . Men have balls and they think its gay to love unconditionally. Arrogant. Tougher to become as spiritually loving as women .

[Sabth]

 

What even is that? You'd hv to fight. Fight for your life , fight for your Truth. Or Reality will just kill itself. 

1 hour ago, Sabth said:

I am born neutral /masculine. Until after i took art. Mentally im a stereotypically a man but im a woman. So whatever that is i am, is a woman. I am very feminine. Just a t instead of a feeler. But ive been raped recently so i cant say for sure. Even before even if i had become more of an f than a t it was still within myself. Reason. But not until those raped me. Whoever they are i became as ugly as they are. 

This , is certainly not what I wanna bring forth /appeared like. 

Edited January 6 by Sabth

[Someone here]

@Sabth  sorry to hear you were raped . Honestly i didn’t understand much of your post other than that .

Edited January 6 by Someone here

[Sabth]

@Someone here I was mentally forced out of my mind

, so they become me?

Imagine if you are a human being with all knowledge in your mind , or your self. They can empty your mind and fill up your mind with themselves.  Rape. 

 

[Sugarcoat]

14 hours ago, Howtolive said:

I see them often more going for what feels good instead of the raw truth.

A lot of men’s so called “raw truth” is riddened with identification with one’s mental position and underlying emotion

[Someone here]

11 minutes ago, Sabth said:

@Someone here I was mentally forced out of my mind

, so they become me?

Imagine if you are a human being with all knowledge in your mind , or your self. They can empty your mind and fill up your mind with themselves.  Rape. 

 

Once again I'm sorry to hear about your rape incident. 

First of all.. this world is not perfect and I don't think It will ever be. We slip up..and that's ok. Let's all love ourselves for these flaws. Second.. notice the many voices in your head..they are not you..they are a mirror of the words others have spoken to you..or on tv..or in a book. That being raped must be traumatic. It doesn't  have to . If you learn how to love it quickly you will heal .It is the "ego" the false self that can drive human beings to rape each others or to steal..to cheat or to hate. Etc. This voice disguises itself as you. So it judges others..it criticizes.. it judges you.. it doubts your capabilities.. it criticizes you. Realize this voice is not you.it is not real. it is an idea in your mind.it is mental noise. it is a mirror of what you've been exposed to growing up and it is easy to live from a real place rather than from the false self. Just stay in the present moment. Replace every "ego" thought with one of love .do not judge th thoughts.love those too. Think of things you are excited about.maybe go do something that excites you. The point is to live here and now.

God bless you 🙏

Edited January 6 by Someone here

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I don't think enlightenment is gender specific

Do you mean how a woman experiences it?

Or how it is shown outwardly in concrete reality, while being in feminine form, as perceived by others?

It feels like love. Like I am one with that other person. There is no me or them.

Just one

[Howtolive]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

 Actually it's easier for women.  The feminine is naturally more enlightened than the masculine .

Enlightenment in a sense is a process of unconditional love towards reality. The only thing separating you from God is that God loves everything but you have discrimination. 

The feminine is naturally more open and receptive and loving . Men have balls and they think its gay to love unconditionally. Arrogant. Tougher to become as spiritually loving as women .

Okey I get that. Wouldn't that mean that the masculine side prevents enlithentment? Because masculinity is about strong will, not accepting, moving forward, setting boundaries, having a map of how reality works, being assertive. Isn't that all connected too having an ego ?

[Howtolive]

53 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I don't think enlightenment is gender specific

Do you mean how a woman experiences it?

Or how it is shown outwardly in concrete reality, while being in feminine form, as perceived by others?

It feels like love. Like I am one with that other person. There is no me or them.

Just one

I thought one part of enlithendment is giving up all concepts to fully surrender. It seems like to me that this is a very hard challenge for most people but even harder for woman. 

[Breakingthewall]

For women enlightenment is much more difficult as it requires being absolutely alone as a total reality, completely detached from any human emotion, and women are much more social and emotional.

[Sandhu]

@Someone here She isn't mentally stable. She doesn't make any sense. People here tried to help her but apparently she can't be helped. So, most people ignore her. I feel sad for her.

[Hojo]

They know how to surrender easier than men. They have less control and have to move with the current more. Men often fight it.

Edited January 6 by Hojo

[Sabth]

 

 

It's only because I'm free from it now that I can write about it. Except that it's a mind, history or whatever. This is dangerous. Even if I write the word history it will be brought back to that. But this wasn't like rape. R is like mentally forcing you (me) sabth. I shouldn't do this to @Someone here

Anyone , whom have had my influence would be my responsibility.  That's how I felt. 

*I had influenced

Constantly feeling like this.

Yesterday. And while I was sleeping they still...  Would hv read me (?) and do something according to it. Nucleic . 

Edited January 6 by Sabth

[Someone here]

8 hours ago, Howtolive said:

Okey I get that. Wouldn't that mean that the masculine side prevents enlithentment? Because masculinity is about strong will, not accepting, moving forward, setting boundaries, having a map of how reality works, being assertive. Isn't that all connected too having an ego ?

I am a man who is spiritual and into spirituality. I don’t have anyone else in my life that’s also spiritual. Maybe one day I’ll find some people that are. I have noticed that a lot of spirituality related YouTube videos are made by women. When you listen to someone like Anna Brown you feel she is authentic whereas someone like Jim Newman  sounds like a neo advaita robot .i’m sure that’ll change tho. Right now we’re definitely breaking the stereotype of men needing to be tough. I’m confident that with time we’ll see more men being spiritual

I have zero libido ever since ive gone deeper into spirituality btw . 

5 hours ago, Sandhu said:

@Someone here She isn't mentally stable. She doesn't make any sense. People here tried to help her but apparently she can't be helped. So, most people ignore her. I feel sad for her.

It's very sad indeed .I hope she finds  happiness and peace soon . Sometimes life just doesn't work .could be a real bitch . But it has been my experience that the greatest happiness you will ever experience usually comes after you hit your lowest .

Hang in there Sabth .

[SOUL]

If you transcend the binary biases you have about sex and gender, it will be absolutely clear the answer doesn't have this question.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

On 06/01/2025 at 9:10 PM, Howtolive said:

I thought one part of enlithendment is giving up all concepts to fully surrender. It seems like to me that this is a very hard challenge for most people but even harder for woman. 

I think it is a very hard challenge for all people.

It is not attributed to sex.

But you speak of individuals who are mired in the system & have unhealed wounds inside they aren't aware of.

These individuals cannot reach enlightenment in this state.

I will be upbraided for this: women are naturally closer to God than men. At birth, before life comes to fuck them up.

Empathy is the key here; it enables us to feel what others feel. To be one with them. This is God.

Feminine energy is closer to God, enlightenment, due to this natural empathy.

Feminine energy is not only contained in women.

And stating the above, to be clear, does not mean men cannot attain enlightenment with any less effort.

We all have a balance of masculine and feminine not connected to our born sex.

Edited January 8 by Natasha Tori Maru