Distinction between actuality and imagination/concepts

[Davino]

@Princess Arabia

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Devotee: Is preparation necessary to reach God Realization?

Shivapuri Baba: To imagine that one can reach God-Consciousness without preparation is like expecting to buy an elephant for two coins.

Devotee: And yet we have seen that people who come without any preparation do make progress in these exercises.

Shivapuri Baba: If so, then the exercise itself becomes the preparation. Without preparation, that is, without a strong virtuous mind, meditation is impossible.

Devotee: Some rare people are born with a gift for the spiritual life. They go right ahead without the year of preparation that others find necessary.

Shivapuri Baba: If someone is born with spiritual preparation, they must have acquired it by the discipline they practiced in previous lives. Also you must understand that many bad habits are formed in this life. Until these bad habits are removed, meditation is impossible. Without these bad habits, it would not take so long.

- Shivapuri Baba -

 

[Davino]

3 hours ago, Kairos said:

So reality is love indeed , not neutral 

It is so

But you gotta Awaken to that

First there is Understanding

You got that

Then there is Awakening, a change in your state of Consciousness

Lastly there is Realization, which is to be aware of such facet of existence continuously, like your heart always beats and like your nose is always in the center of your visual field

[Davino]

22 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then the kid went to the school, He grew up, and with each passing day he became a little more distant from himself, until one day he said to himself: wow, how funny, I am completely alienated, confused, full of neuroses, anxiety and the prospects are rather dark/black! 

Then he thought: there is only one possible way: real awakening, the destruction of this structure that I call human, all of the lines that makes him, because are lines designed by a crazy architect. Then, in the middle of nowhere, absolutely alone, he found himself 

Of course, once the river is crossed we burn the ship

Or as Ramana used to say

The stick used to move the wood in the burning fire is lastly thrown in the fire and all is consumed

[Princess Arabia]

13 hours ago, Davino said:

@Princess Arabia

 

Why are you quoting me somebody's words. What are my words. I have quotes too. Here's one. "I do not need to become anything. I am what I am and will be what I will be. I didn't ask to come here, so however I got here, that will take care of itself". I don't need to go by anyone's quotes just because my momma and poppa had sex. Quote me a delicious recipe so I can make it for dinner and satisfy the body's hunger. The mind doesn't need anymore spiritual quotes from some dead man.

[Davino]

On 8/1/2025 at 10:56 AM, Princess Arabia said:

Why are you quoting me somebody's words.

Because they are wise

On 8/1/2025 at 10:56 AM, Princess Arabia said:

Here's one. "I do not need to become anything. I am what I am and will be what I will be. I didn't ask to come here, so however I got here, that will take care of itself"

Wise as well; for the one that has crossed the sea shall see those everpresent views

On 8/1/2025 at 10:56 AM, Princess Arabia said:

Quote me a delicious recipe so I can make it for dinner and satisfy the body's hunger.

Here's one:

Why did the chef write a sad recipe book?

Because every time someone tried a dish, they said, “This recipe is tear-able!”

(But don’t worryno onions were harmed in the making of that pun!)

On 8/1/2025 at 10:56 AM, Princess Arabia said:

The mind doesn't need anymore spiritual quotes from some dead man.

You'll have to deal with your mind want it or not. Better cultivate it and make it intelligent, virtuous and wise.

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Only when the cat loses the taste for rat, it is ready to become a tiger

Indian proverb

 

Edited January 9 by Davino

[Princess Arabia]

18 hours ago, Davino said:

Only when the cat loses the taste for rat, it is ready to become a tiger

There ya go.I lost my taste for Spiritual knowledge. It only masks what this is. I do not go out looking for my purse if I see it right here beside me, now do I. I only have a taste for the here and now and what is. More knowledge is just that, more knowledge. It leads nowhere and only breeds the need for more knowledge. I still watch videos and still do whatever, but it's just like doing anything else. The so-called wise that you refer to them as, are no more wise than you or I. The stupid are no more stupid than you are I - ONLY IN APPEARANCE. The mind is what makes that distinction and the mind isn't real as it's contents are forever changing. 

The wise weren't born wise and the stupid weren't born stupid. They only appear as such in the infinite scope of things and the only difference between the two is energetic and energy cannot be placed in a box and be defined, so it's all the same thing. You think you're becoming wise by listening to the wise, but all that's happening is you're feeding the mind and it's need for truth. Truth cannot be grasped because Truth, is all there is. It's already the case. Wisdom and stupidity collapses and become one because they are both defined against each other.