Distinction between actuality and imagination/concepts

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Davino said:

And that's why you'll never reach God Consciousness. 

Yes, God, because you know.

[Davino]

52 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Davino Listening to what I said to Leo to Stop being lazy and get to it. All of the info i need is at my  fingertips. I just need the willingness and discipline to (correctly) use it.

With that being said I'm more awake than you .

Impossible! Nobody is more Awake than me

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Davino said:

Ultimately, you are God so only you can give it to YourSelf.

Makes no sense that I have to reach myself.

[Davino]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

Yes, God, because you know.

Ask anyone that has reached God Consciousness if you'll arrive by that methodology. Go run an experiment 

Unless it strikes you by fluke luck like a lightning bolt it's not gonna happen by that methodology. Millions of people do that and ain't that much conscious after all

[Davino]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Makes no sense that I have to reach myself.

Makes no sense that I still have to discover myself, said the little child. I'm already myself!!!

His mother laughed and took him to school. By doing, growing, learning and interacting each day of your life you will discover yourself said. She kissed him and gave him the lunch food, wishing him a nice travel.

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Davino said:

Ask anyone that has reached God Consciousness if you'll arrive by that methodology. Go run an experiment 

Unless it strikes you by fluke luck like a lightning bolt it's not gonna happen by that methodology. Millions of people do that and ain't that much conscious after all

I'm conscious enough to know that I appear to be conscious. BTW, what is God Consciousness.

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Davino said:

His mother laughed and took him to school. By doing, growing, learning and interacting each day of your life you will discover yourself said. She kissed him and gave him the lunch food, wishing him a nice travel.

Great! Experience that is.

[Breakingthewall]

24 minutes ago, Davino said:

His mother laughed and took him to school. By doing, growing, learning and interacting each day of your life you will discover yourself said. She kissed him and gave him the lunch food, wishing him a nice travel.

Then the kid went to the school, He grew up, and with each passing day he became a little more distant from himself, until one day he said to himself: wow, how funny, I am completely alienated, confused, full of neuroses, anxiety and the prospects are rather dark/black! 

Then he thought: there is only one possible way: real awakening, the destruction of this structure that I call human, all of the lines that makes him, because are lines designed by a crazy architect. Then, in the middle of nowhere, absolutely alone, he found himself 

[Inliytened1]

On 1/3/2025 at 9:55 PM, Juns said:

 

In this video, @Leo Gura talks about the distinction between actuality and imagination/concepts and creates a distinction between your thoughts and concepts and the present conscious experience that you are having. He gave a few examples, such as science, reason, logic, and your life history.

My question is: if your concepts and imagination are a part of your present conscious experience, then isn't that just as real as the hand in front of your face? I generally understand what he is talking about; however, I just wanted to some clarification on this point.
 

You need the distinction to realize there is no distinction. 

[Kairos]

21 hours ago, Davino said:

For something to exist it has to be loved enough for it to exist, in actuality being and love are identical.

Wow , That's a great point .

So reality is love indeed , not neutral 

[Aaron p]

17 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

You need the distinction to realize there is no distinction. 

@Inliytened1 its difficult cuz there also is a distinction lol. the distinction is actually super important to realise at a certain point. its real, as an illusion

[Davino]

@Princess Arabia

Quote

Devotee: Is preparation necessary to reach God Realization?

Shivapuri Baba: To imagine that one can reach God-Consciousness without preparation is like expecting to buy an elephant for two coins.

Devotee: And yet we have seen that people who come without any preparation do make progress in these exercises.

Shivapuri Baba: If so, then the exercise itself becomes the preparation. Without preparation, that is, without a strong virtuous mind, meditation is impossible.

Devotee: Some rare people are born with a gift for the spiritual life. They go right ahead without the year of preparation that others find necessary.

Shivapuri Baba: If someone is born with spiritual preparation, they must have acquired it by the discipline they practiced in previous lives. Also you must understand that many bad habits are formed in this life. Until these bad habits are removed, meditation is impossible. Without these bad habits, it would not take so long.

- Shivapuri Baba -

 

[Davino]

3 hours ago, Kairos said:

So reality is love indeed , not neutral 

It is so

But you gotta Awaken to that

First there is Understanding

You got that

Then there is Awakening, a change in your state of Consciousness

Lastly there is Realization, which is to be aware of such facet of existence continuously, like your heart always beats and like your nose is always in the center of your visual field

[Davino]

22 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then the kid went to the school, He grew up, and with each passing day he became a little more distant from himself, until one day he said to himself: wow, how funny, I am completely alienated, confused, full of neuroses, anxiety and the prospects are rather dark/black! 

Then he thought: there is only one possible way: real awakening, the destruction of this structure that I call human, all of the lines that makes him, because are lines designed by a crazy architect. Then, in the middle of nowhere, absolutely alone, he found himself 

Of course, once the river is crossed we burn the ship

Or as Ramana used to say

The stick used to move the wood in the burning fire is lastly thrown in the fire and all is consumed