Questions for experienced 5-MeO users

[emil1234]

I recently had my first 5meo trip, and I'm planning on starting using 5meo regularly as a self development / realization tool. I do have a couple of questions tho.

1. How often do you guys trip? i know that with traditional psychedelics like LSD and mushrooms, its advicable to wait 1-2months in between trips. However DMT and 5meo dmt seem way more innocent to me, i might very well be deluding myself here, which is why i ask; but the short acting trips, seem way more harmless than a 12 hour LSD trip. whats ur guys say here, how often is it advicable to trip on 5meo, while still keeping it responsible and safe? Like what if i wanted to push it to maybe once a week, but on a lower threshold dosis? im asking because in my experience, 1 hour after ingesting both NN dmt and 5meo dmt, i feel like im completely back to normal. 

whats ur guys say here, how often is it advicable to trip, while still keeping it responsible and safe? Like what if i wanted to push it to maybe once a week, but on a lower threshold dosis?

2. Is it managable to solo trip, if you're vaporizing through a pibe? I know from personal experience, that when smoking NN-DMT, managing to get the third hit of the pibe is near impossible solo, cus ur tripping so hard at that point. However with 5meo, my facilitator told me that a single big hit will do the job. Hence, is it doable to solo vaporize from a pibe, even on large doses?

3. Whats your dose scalings? (speaking synthetic vaporized 5-meo here), im seeing a bit varying information on google. Some say anything above 15mg is an extremely high dose, others say you need to go above 30 mg

4. how many times in a row is it actually safe to smoke 5meo? When i did it, i did 2 trips in a row, but how far can this actually be pushed? and does the dosing have anything to say in this matter?

Edited Friday at 02:28 PM by emil1234

[RightHand]

Very important point about dosages:

You have to find your dose by experimenting and using the +5mg per trip method.

For example, when I plug 5-MeO, I need about 50mg to get a full trip. Some people only need 25mg to achieve the same results, so it’s very body-specific.

 

For trip frequency:

You have to trust your body. If you feel like tripping the next day, go for it. If you don’t feel like tripping for weeks, your body will let you know.

 

I’ve never tried smoking 5-MeO, but I’d recommend trying plugging. It’s very easy to control your dose and great for solo tripping. You can follow Leo’s guide on the day you decide to give it a try, it's perfect:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/how-to-plug-psychedelics

Edited Friday at 09:12 PM by RightHand

[Tristan12]

I currently use 5-Meo-DMT or DMT around 3 times a week, but I only use small doses and I’m not going to be doing this long term. I’m only doing this right now for emotional healing purposes.

I can imagine that if my doses were higher and my trips were deeper, I would get pretty ungrounded tripping multiple times per week. I think tripping once a week is fine, but as the guy above said, listen to your body and do what feels right for you

[RendHeaven]

On 1/3/2025 at 10:46 PM, emil1234 said:

1. How often do you guys trip? i know that with traditional psychedelics like LSD and mushrooms, its advicable to wait 1-2months in between trips. However DMT and 5meo dmt seem way more innocent to me, i might very well be deluding myself here, which is why i ask; but the short acting trips, seem way more harmless than a 12 hour LSD trip. whats ur guys say here, how often is it advicable to trip on 5meo, while still keeping it responsible and safe? Like what if i wanted to push it to maybe once a week, but on a lower threshold dosis? im asking because in my experience, 1 hour after ingesting both NN dmt and 5meo dmt, i feel like im completely back to normal. 

whats ur guys say here, how often is it advicable to trip, while still keeping it responsible and safe? Like what if i wanted to push it to maybe once a week, but on a lower threshold dosis?

2. Is it managable to solo trip, if you're vaporizing through a pibe? I know from personal experience, that when smoking NN-DMT, managing to get the third hit of the pibe is near impossible solo, cus ur tripping so hard at that point. However with 5meo, my facilitator told me that a single big hit will do the job. Hence, is it doable to solo vaporize from a pibe, even on large doses?

3. Whats your dose scalings? (speaking synthetic vaporized 5-meo here), im seeing a bit varying information on google. Some say anything above 15mg is an extremely high dose, others say you need to go above 30 mg

4. how many times in a row is it actually safe to smoke 5meo? When i did it, i did 2 trips in a row, but how far can this actually be pushed? and does the dosing have anything to say in this matter?

1. For serious excursions of 5-MeO (medium-high dose, expectations of lasting change), once a week is the maximum responsible frequency IMO. Any more than that and you will hurt yourself. Once every other week is more ideal.

2. Always do psychedelics solo. Learn to plug.

3. I only plug. <10mg = low, ~15mg = medium, 25+mg = high

4. IDK. This shouldn't even be a question, because if you're doing this right, 1 dose will blow you away and it won't occur to you to go back. You know you're doing it right when a week or two goes by, and you think to yourself "Damn, I should do more 5-MeO according to my plan, but I don't wanna..."

 

[emil1234]

1 hour ago, RendHeaven said:

1. For serious excursions of 5-MeO (medium-high dose, expectations of lasting change), once a week is the maximum responsible frequency IMO. Any more than that and you will hurt yourself. Once every other week is more ideal.

2. Always do psychedelics solo. Learn to plug.

3. I only plug. <10mg = low, ~15mg = medium, 25+mg = high

4. IDK. This shouldn't even be a question, because if you're doing this right, 1 dose will blow you away and it won't occur to you to go back. You know you're doing it right when a week or two goes by, and you think to yourself "Damn, I should do more 5-MeO according to my plan, but I don't wanna..."

 

ty for the response. the thing is, i wanna play around with low doses at first to kinda get a feeling of my own sensitivity. so going with very low doses, say 3-5mg, im kinda uncertain how frequent my trips should be, since low doses FEEL quite innocent

Edited Sunday at 09:08 AM by emil1234

[RendHeaven]

1 minute ago, emil1234 said:

ty for the response. the thing is, i wanna play around with low doses at first to kinda get a feeling of my own sensitivity. so going with very low doses, say 3-5mg, do i still need 1-2 weeks in between?

No. The one week guideline is active past a mediumish dose.

A medium dose is already enough for a "breakthrough"

You will know you hit a "breakthrough" when you come down with a feeling of "life will never be the same"

[emil1234]

@RendHeaven all right man, thanks a lot! nice clarification 

[OBEler]

@emil1234 I can trip multiple days in a row on lower doses without any problems. Just do like you feel there is no rule there.

Medium to high dose is another thing. You want to do it less often. Nevertheless I also would say no rules. Go with the flow.

Edited Sunday at 10:48 AM by OBEler

[emil1234]

@OBEler okay nice, thats my initial intuition as well. do you vaporize?

i'm curois if it isnt difficult to vaporize small doses, such as 2-3mg. like do u even get any smoke from that

Edited Sunday at 12:03 PM by emil1234

[OBEler]

@emil1234 I use a vape pen with e liquid. You just grap it and vape. 1:4 is good. Look for thread here there it's explained how to build this