Pickup vs Game

[Candle]

Should we do 10,000 approaches before settling for a long term gf?

If you sleep with a girl, what if she gets attached to you and doesn’t want to leave?

Do we have the right to hurt someone's feelings in pickup ? If we don't want a serious relationship with them. 

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Im from India, there are so many evil women who file fake rape cases like "sex on false promise of marriage". (Bcz of anger or greed) Even without evidence. 

And the legal system is pathetic. A guy's life gets fucked up. It's like murder.

So how can we be safe in pickup?

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We can also find a long term gf and save a lot of time. We have other great things to do (like Science, Business ). What's wrong in it?

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Why do we need to master dating and female psychology through pickup? Where's the use of such experiences? 

What do we learn in pickup that we can't learn in a serious relationship?

 

Edited Thursday at 08:57 PM by Candle

[Recursoinominado]

15 hours ago, Candle said:

Should we do 10,000 approaches before settling for a long term gf?

Yes, you should have a solid experience with dating before having a long-term gf.

15 hours ago, Candle said:

If you sleep with a girl, what if she gets attached to you and doesn’t want to leave?

Deal with it.

15 hours ago, Candle said:

Im from India, there are so many evil women who file fake rape cases like "sex on false promise of marriage". (Bcz of anger or greed) Even without evidence. 

And the legal system is pathetic. A guy's life gets fucked up. It's like murder.

How common is this really? Don't fall for incel/red pill propaganda. In the real world, this will never happen if you are not a complete asshole or the girl is completely insane (also rare, but be alert for that).
 

15 hours ago, Candle said:

So how can we be safe in pickup?

Use common sense, have empathy for women, look for a win-win situation, and be hyper-aware of signs of discomfort.
 

15 hours ago, Candle said:

We can also find a long term gf and save a lot of time. We have other great things to do (like Science, Business ). What's wrong in it?

Yes, you can jump into a relationship before learning game but that will probably fail miserably because you lack experience with women and you will be terrified of ending the relationship because you will not be able to easily replace her. Also, she won't be the best choice for you, she will be your only choice because you don't know game.

 

15 hours ago, Candle said:

Why do we need to master dating and female psychology through pickup? Where's the use of such experiences? 

You don't NEED, but it is a well proven path and I don't see a better alternative nowadays. 
The use is to have OPTIONS.
Most men don't have options when it comes to dating, they have to get what they can which is usually low-quality women and women that they have no compatibility, which is a sure way to have a failed relationship.
 

15 hours ago, Candle said:

What do we learn in pickup that we can't learn in a serious relationship?

You learn to be abundant and relax because you know you can find other women if your current one acts out. Most men will tolerate horrible things in the relationship because they don't know game, so they are terrified of being single again. 
 

[Candle]

47 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Don't fall for incel/red pill propaganda

I don't consume such content at all. 

47 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

In the real world, this will never happen if you are not a complete asshole or the girl is completely insane (also rare, but be alert for that).

Doing a fake case doesn't require her to be insane. She can look totally okay, and also do a fake case. How can you know always? Especially when you approach 10k girls and sleep with 100 ones. 

And you don't know about my country. You worldview is different. In India, judicial process is slow and you won't get bail in rape cases for years. (Good things also happen in judiciary, but we have to take the worst case scenario). 

47 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Yes, you should have a solid experience with dating before having a long-term gf.

Why? Let's say, I get into a serious relationship with someone I liked and learn about "relationship dynamics" over many years and make it a successful relationship ultimately.

Then why 10k approaches? Why do I need to learn about all diverse types of women from the whole world? (Only reason I see is that.... female psychology is fascinating....... But sometimes it feels less important .....cz life is short.)

47 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Deal with it.

That means we have the right to hurt someone's feelings in pickup?

Why Leo promotes pickup (and doing 10k approaches)? Isn't pickup a selfish behaviour? If that girl doesn't understand it was casual, short term relnship. (Such cases WILL be there) 

Yes, pickup seems fascinating and cool to me too. But I don't want to do anything wrong to anyone. 

47 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Yes, you can jump into a relationship before learning game but that will probably fail miserably because you lack experience .......... because you don't know game.

Don't misunderstand. I WAS talking about game. (It's different from pickup). When I said "long term serious relationship", I meant "relationship through GAME". 

It's game vs pickup. 

47 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Most men will tolerate horrible things in the relationship

I'm not such a guy. I'm not afraid of anything. I'm single. But if I get into a relationship and discover sth is toxic, I won't tolerate for a second. 

 

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Note : 

Nobody on the forum will debate my points unconsciously, I am already tired due to my previous threads. !!!!! Don't derail the thread. Focus on the main idea. Don't write if u have nothing useful to share. 

Debate it consciously. After contemplating.

Edited Friday at 01:32 PM by Candle

[Buck Edwards]

I'm a woman and I don't understand(fully) the difference between pickup and game. Would be nice if some man explained it to me directly in words. 

I understand a little bit about pickup, although it's none of my business, but at least I try to. So far my understanding is (correct me if I'm wrong) —

Reasons why men do pickup 

• To get a girlfriend 
• To have a stable relationship 
• To get better with people in general
• To be able to get casual sex, hookup 
• To be able to please women 
• To get desirable women
• To enjoy female attention and validation 
• To be charming to women 
• To enjoy the companionship of women 
• To master female psychology 
• To understand women better 
• To get a better woman/person 
• To have a healthy marriage 
• To get a long term relationship or LTR
• To get a friends with benefits or FWB
• To master dating 
• To find a more compatible partner to prevent compatibility issues in the future 
• To screen women 
• To develop confidence around women
• To develop social skills in general 
• To develop social confidence 
• To be better than other men in social environment
• For ego reasons 
• To screen for a healthy potential partner
• To avoid dating traps and potential relationship issues. 

Thats all I can think of off the top of my head right now. 

[Recursoinominado]

4 minutes ago, Candle said:

That means we have the right to hurt someone's feelings in pickup?

No, i mean you deal with the situations when it occurs. It isn't helpful to overthink everything.

5 minutes ago, Candle said:

Don't misunderstand. I WAS talking about game. (It's different from pickup). When I said "long term serious relationship", I meant "relationship through GAME". 

It's game vs pickup. 

Game and pickup are the same thing.

6 minutes ago, Candle said:

I'm not such a guy.

You don't know that until you are in a relationship.

7 minutes ago, Candle said:

I'm not afraid of anything.

Don't kid yourself, you are full of fears and your post makes that very clear.
 

8 minutes ago, Candle said:

Nobody on the forum will debate my points unconsciously, I am already tired due to my previous threads. !!!!! Don't derail the thread. Focus on the main idea. Don't write if u have nothing useful to share. 

Don't be a dick, people are using their time trying to help you.

[Recursoinominado]

5 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

I'm a woman and I don't understand(fully) the difference between pickup and game. Would be nice if some man explained it to me directly in words. 

 

Game = pickup.

Its the same thing. 

[Candle]

Assume this definition and forget yours. For this topic. 

ChatGPT 
Game vs pickup 

In the context of dating or relationships, "game" and "pickup" have different connotations, even though they both deal with attracting romantic or sexual partners.

Here's a breakdown: 
Game 
• Definition: Refers to the overall skills, confidence, and social ability someone has to connect with and attract others. 
• Focus: Building rapport, understanding social dynamics, and developing an authentic or charismatic personality. 
• Long-term: It often emphasizes improving oneself holistically (appearance, communication, mindset) to naturally attract others. 
• Example: Being able to hold a great conversation, read someone's body language, and make a genuine connection. 

 

Pickup 
• Definition: A more specific and often tactical approach to meeting and attracting someone, typically for short-term encounters. 
• Focus: Using specific techniques or lines to create attraction quickly. 
• Short-term: Often associated with one-night stands or casual flings, sometimes criticized for being manipulative. 
• Example: Using pre-rehearsed lines or routines to spark interest and escalate interaction. 

Key Difference: "Game" is broader and can be applied to different contexts, including long-term relationships, while "pickup" is narrower and often aimed at quick success. 
 

Edited Friday at 01:43 PM by Candle

[Candle]

6 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Don't kid yourself, you are full of fears and your post makes that very clear.
 

You just have to argue. And not focus on the main issue. I'm afraid of any injustice that could happen to me. 

6 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Don't be a dick,

Reported your post for cursing me. Don't talk to me. I don't want advice from you. 

Edited Friday at 01:30 PM by Candle

[Buck Edwards]

Okay this is the defintion of pickup I gathered from the internet - 

A "cold approach" is when you initiate contact with someone you don't know at all, with the goal of starting a conversation or building a relationship, typically in a social setting like a public place or party, where there's no prior connection or familiarity between the two people; essentially, approaching a complete stranger. 

So pickup is approach. And game is building charisma. In short.

[Recursoinominado]

2 minutes ago, Candle said:

Reported your post for cursing me. 

[Raze]

https://www.girlschase.com/article/how-avoid-and-deal-false-rape-accusations

https://www.girlschase.com/comment/88741