Do you like to combine psychedelics?

[Unlimited]

If not please say why you prefer taking one only over combining multiple ones together.

[Leo Gura]

Not.

Because it becomes less predictable and the purity of a particular chemical is diluted. Keeping records of those trips is harder.

Pure breed vs mut.

Edited Thursday at 03:14 AM by Leo Gura

[Davino]

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Do you like to combine psychedelics?

Yes, but only after mastery over such particular psychedelic.

So I get a tone of experience with it and then I intuit with which other psychedelic it may synergize and then observe how it combines and with which dose range and so on.

I have found that some combinations of psychedelics open up for new unique states of consciousness, only accesible through those combinations. They become like a third psychedelic. You can also train your awareness to distinguish each effect happening simultaneously in your consciousness or if it actually merged totally or if they are actually not working good together or lovely together or if they have merged as one new psychedelic effect.

However, combining psychedelics is dangerous. Particularly less known ones, many times I was quite doubtful about whether such combination could be lethal, because there were no reports about someone combining those two or three or more substances together. So very dangerous and potentially deadly but also insanely rewarding if you hit the perfect spot. Such is the double edged sword serious psychonauts walk.

[Unlimited]

14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Not.

Because it becomes less predictable and the purity of a particular chemical is diluted. Keeping records of those trips is harder.

Pure breed vs mut.

You got a point here and especially in higher dosages I've noticed that aswell.

From my experience there are some good ways though.

For example acid as a base for the trip, doesn't have to be a high dosage, and then on the peak you can smoke DMT.
Like that it is not just smoking it real quick and being back in 10 min.
You have a lot of time to prepare and you can also contemplate about some stuff before you come to the "final" moment of the trip.
With that I got more out of the experience than just smoking it.

Or for example mixing a dissociative substance with a psychedelic.
It makes a complete new experience like no substance alone could do.

I think they just work too well (at least for me) together than to miss out completely on combining them.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't take a subtance solo anymore and there are probably some like 5-meo-dmt that you shouldn't mix with others but still I think it is a way how you can experience consciousness differently.

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Unlimited said:

and then on the peak you can smoke DMT.

That's a recipe for a bad trip as you can easily overdose while already high.

Getting a proper dose of DMT is tricky enough sober.

Edited Thursday at 05:48 PM by Leo Gura

[Unlimited]

7 hours ago, Davino said:

Yes, but only after mastery over such particular psychedelic.

What do you mean by mastery?
Being able to handle low, mid and high dose experiences?

7 hours ago, Davino said:

So I get a tone of experience with it and then I intuit with which other psychedelic it may synergize and then observe how it combines and with which dose range and so on.

I have found that some combinations of psychedelics open up for new unique states of consciousness, only accesible through those combinations. They become like a third psychedelic. You can also train your awareness to distinguish each effect happening simultaneously in your consciousness or if it actually merged totally or if they are actually not working good together or lovely together or if they have merged as one new psychedelic effect.

Yes this is exactly what I'm thinking aswell.
I most of the time try to figure out what comes from which substance but sometimes it is just a complete new experience where it is hard to say which effect comes from which substance.

7 hours ago, Davino said:

However, combining psychedelics is dangerous. Particularly less known ones, many times I was quite doubtful about whether such combination could be lethal, because there were no reports about someone combining those two or three or more substances together. So very dangerous and potentially deadly but also insanely rewarding if you hit the perfect spot. Such is the double edged sword serious psychonauts walk.

Most psychedelics should do well together and shouldn't be lethal in the sense that the substances harm your body if you mix them but if they are less known ones you should be very careful of course.

I like to combine more known ones and always look that I know that the two substances I combine together with a third one would work well together if it's just the one with the third one together.

For example yesterday I took 4 different substances and that was actually also the reason why I started this thread.
I mixed lsd, thc, ketamine & dmt together and added one after each other to the pool and looked how they worked together until I added another one.
The last substance I added to the pool was dmt and it definitely brought me to the most profound moment of the trip.
All of the four substances worked perfectly together.

 

Edited Thursday at 06:03 PM by Unlimited

[Unlimited]

18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's a recipe for a bad trip as you can easily overdose while already high.

Getting a proper dose of DMT is tricky enough sober.

Isn't a bad trip always something that can happen if you take high dosages of any psychedelic?

And a bad trip is not necessarily a bad experience.
As long as you always look out that you are in some safe space.

A risk is always there and I don't say anyone should take this lightly. 

And also you don't have to take a proper dose of dmt if you mix it together with other substances like ketamine.
With a dmt pen for example you can slowly increase how strong the effect is until you reach the perfect state.

Edited Thursday at 06:08 PM by Unlimited

[Leo Gura]

46 minutes ago, Unlimited said:

Isn't a bad trip always something that can happen

But you shouldn't do things that maximize the risk.

You could kill or cripple yourself with a bad trip. Don't take it lightly.

[Davino]

17 hours ago, Unlimited said:

What do you mean by mastery?
Being able to handle low, mid and high dose experiences?

Yes, as well as exposure to a wide different situations while ON the substance.

For example, indoors and outdoors, alone and with people, in silent environment and in noisy environments, in controlled scenarios and in situations not fully in your control.

To get experience navigating all those mind spaces and experiences while on the substance. So you have trained yourself to be efficient on fairly all tasks while tripping. Some friends are amazed how come you are peaking on acid and you seem quite normal, a bit more wowo but very much yourself This is why, this is mastery.

17 hours ago, Unlimited said:

I most of the time try to figure out what comes from which substance but sometimes it is just a complete new experience where it is hard to say which effect comes from which substance.

Yep, sometimes I figured out that psychedelics have different knobs that twik and they may be ignorant about some and then you can complement it with another psychedelic to have a more holistic exploration of Consciousness states.

I also discovered that some substances do touch all dimensions, when you are in a 5meoMalt and say you consume another susbtances and profoundly become aware of how all this knobs are twisted you may discover the level of holism of each substance. For example, weed is not that profound alone but it still touches all dimensions and knobs of consciousness is all dimensional in this sense but tobacco, alcohol or the like are not all-dimensional.

17 hours ago, Unlimited said:

Most psychedelics should do well together and shouldn't be lethal in the sense that the substances harm your body if you mix them but if they are less known ones you should be very careful of course.

I like to combine more known ones and always look that I know that the two substances I combine together with a third one would work well together if it's just the one with the third one together.

yes, that's a good rule of thumb but you're gambling or actually being a guinea pig for science and psychedelic exploration. You can read many cases where two substances make a chemical reaction that make it incompatible with a third one and end up overdosing, so the risk goes with the more you mix and the higher the dosages.

17 hours ago, Unlimited said:

The last substance I added to the pool was dmt and it definitely brought me to the most profound moment of the trip.
All of the four substances worked perfectly together.

It def is rewarding although it can become it's own trap (mixing drugs) as well as the crash to the baseline state of consciousness is hard.

Edited Friday at 11:50 AM by Davino

[AION]

I combined LSD with magic mushrooms once and that was a wild ride

[Davino]

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's a recipe for a bad trip as you can easily overdose while already high.

It's good general advice

Although I don't get sloppy when redosing, it's a hyper aware precision, thoughtfulness and self-awareness both in the decision and the action.

In you 30 days challenge, did you predose all 5meo or where you doing it daily as per your everyday decision? Just curious to know

[TheGod]

I once combined LSD 1 tab + 1.5 grams of some Golden Teacher. I had the most colorful trip I ever had. Although from 12 hours of tripping the only thing I remember is beautiful colours and nothing else. 

My next combo will be 5MeO+Mushrooms.

You need to know that combining psychedelics is something very personal. I know a lot of people who like doing LSD and smoke weed at the same time. I tried it 2 times and i had the worst panic attacks possible. 

[Fluran]

i feel positive with less than 1mg of 5meomipt (not more than that) with 5meodmt, have not experimented with 5meomalt yet.

[Leo Gura]

On 1/3/2025 at 3:54 AM, Davino said:

In you 30 days challenge, did you predose all 5meo

Nay

[Buck Edwards]

On 03/01/2025 at 5:20 PM, Davino said:

For example, indoors and outdoors, alone and with people, in silent environment and in noisy environments, in controlled scenarios and in situations not fully in your control.

Have you tried psychedelics in the forest? I have tried ayahuasca and it was very beautiful. 

[RightHand]

36 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

Have you tried psychedelics in the forest? I have tried ayahuasca and it was very beautiful. 

I have tried acid alone in a parc at night, it was raining too. 

I became a shaman. I was fighting tree demons the whole night. 

Edited 16 hours ago by RightHand

[Buck Edwards]

Just now, RightHand said:

I have tried acid alone in a parc at night. 

I became a shaman. I was fighting tree demons the whole night. 

[Alex_R]

I would like to try ketsmine and lsd but never did

[Davino]

8 hours ago, Buck Edwards said:

Have you tried psychedelics in the forest?

Yep, they give another whole dimension to the experience

The forest, animals and plants def feel it

[Davino]

7 hours ago, Alex_R said:

I would like to try ketsmine and lsd but never did

Meh, the just coexist but nothing really worthy in my experience

LSD and edibles or LSD and MDMA, those are another level