Let’s get past the confusion about Islam and settle it

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Muhammad just happened to be a political leader not just a spiritual man . He was forced to deal with his society in the way he did

Then, as the society changed, better forget him totally. It's very simple 

[Someone here]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then, as the society changed, better forget him totally. It's very simple 

OK fair point .

[Schahin]

@Breakingthewall

1. you create an very disturbing generalization about millions of people and put them equality to terrorists and feed the current hatred filled narrative of the bad Muslims and the good westeners.

2. You don't realize how dangerous that narrativae is and how that rhetoric creates more racism and because of that rhetoric, people like me are being looked at as a terrorists when I walk the streets here in Germany.

I am not a Muslim and I fight fanatics ideologies but I also fight generalised statements based on hatred.

3. That freedom you say don't exist in the Muslim world is not not true for all Muslim countries. Have you ever been to Lebanon, Iraq, Dubai, Morocco? Women live free there as in other countries. Also freedom is relative, for some freedom means to post a pornographic video every day and shoe your intimacies to the whole world.

For others freedom is to marry early on and raise children and live a very simple, quiet  and Ordered life with no promiscuity and adultery and so on and die happily in your small family. 

That second form is getting rarer and rarer in the West with divorce and adultery rates at their highest.

Well everybody should decide for themselves.

4.The freedom you talk about does not exist Muslim community is also a part of the evolution of the human race. It did not exist in European countries 100 years ago either.

Women had nothing to say and were even beaten at home if they didn't cook and clean the house. 

 

In summary I say it again, that kind of rhetoric is extremely dangerous especially  in a time where the whole world watches a genocide unfold live on TV and the most powerful western countries approve of it,because of the rhetoric that all of them are terrorists and terrorists need to be eliminated.

Who is the real terrorist here? The apparently free western countries that sent weapons to kill innocent children? Or the innocent children that only have stones to defend of themselves?

 

 

 

 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Schahin said:

you create an very disturbing generalization about millions of people and put them equality to terrorists and feed the current hatred filled narrative of the bad Muslims and the good westeners.

What if you learn to read and interpret a text before starting complaining? Where i said that Muslims are terrorist and westerns are good? In your imagination? I just said that Islam is a hindrance for a human that wants to call himself human, it's ok for a human that wants to call himself sheep, like many

 

1 hour ago, Schahin said:

That freedom you say don't exist in the Muslim world is not not true for all Muslim countries. Have you ever been to Lebanon, Iraq, Dubai, Morocco?

Yes I ve been a lot of times in Morocco and turkey, I know many morroco girls, they say that it's a big shit and all men are sick. Do you know that morroco is a brothel? Go to night life you will see. Sick society 

1 hour ago, Schahin said:

You don't realize how dangerous that narrativae is and how that rhetoric creates more racism

Again. Look, race is black, Asian, etc. Muslim is not a race, there are Muslims of any race, like communists or fascists. Islam is an ideology based in fear and it doesn't depends of the race. 

1 hour ago, Schahin said:

4.The freedom you talk about does not exist Muslim community is also a part of the evolution of the human race

Sure, same than Nazism and communism . Was very necessary for the human evolution, no doubt about this but can I think that they are a big shit? 

 

1 hour ago, Schahin said:

a time where the whole world watches a genocide unfold live on TV and the most powerful western countries approve

No, the western countries doesn't approve it, the UN condems it. Only US supports it.