Let’s get past the confusion about Islam and settle it

[James123]

@Breakingthewall @PurpleTree not to kill innocent people. People are misleads the way of Quran. Bible writes more disturbing than that.

Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.’” Samuel 15-3

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, James123 said:

@Breakingthewall @PurpleTree not to kill innocent people. People are misleads the way of Quran. Bible writes more disturbing than that.

Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.’” Samuel 15-3

Demagoguery, like always. "Innocent people" is who I decide is innocent, then I decide that anyone is no innocent and done. 

The other, when we talk about Christianity, we refer, as you know, to the New Testament, to the life of Christ, which annuls the Old Testament, the New Covenant annuls the Old, so citing the Old Testament is demagogy, since Christ says to love your enemies and forgive them. But you already know this and you do not speak to build, you speak to stand out, then it's difficult to arrive to any point 

[PurpleTree]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

@Breakingthewall @PurpleTree not to kill innocent people. People are misleads the way of Quran. Bible writes more disturbing than that.

Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.’” Samuel 15-3

Well it’s not about the writing. It’s about the actions. Action speaks louder than words. I don’t really care about 2000 year old writing. I care about what happens now.

[James123]

@Breakingthewall All religions are same shit. Read objectively both of our answers, same stuff. lol. 

[James123]

1 minute ago, PurpleTree said:

Well it’s not about the writing. It’s about the actions. Action speaks louder than words. I don’t really care about 2000 year old writing. I care about what happens now.

So basically, you are not talking about the books or religions, You are just talking about people. People can never follow the religion specially nowadays. Half of the christians are gay now. Bible says kill them.

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, James123 said:

@Breakingthewall All religions are same shit. Read objectively both of our answers, same stuff. lol. 

Buddhism is different from worshipping an Aztec god who orders you to rip out the hearts of 10,000 captives to prevent the sun from devouring the earth.

[James123]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

Buddhism is different from worshipping an Aztec god who orders you to rip out the hearts of 10,000 captives to prevent the sun from devouring the earth.

What kind of Buddhism? İn India, they got 100000 gods. You mean Zen?

[Basman]

22 hours ago, Someone here said:

That's why it wasn't separated from politics in Islamic countries. 

No its because they are Stage Blue countries. There is no objective measure with which they choose what religious they brainwash themselves with. They happen to be Muslim so that's what they are.

Separating church and state is a relatively recent development. The difference between historically Muslim and Christian countries is that Christian countries are much more developed, thanks in part due to a more hospitable geography.

[PurpleTree]

9 minutes ago, James123 said:

So basically, you are not talking about the books or religions, You are just talking about people. People can never follow the religion specially nowadays. Half of the christians are gay now. Bible says kill them.

Bro you’re just claiming silly stuff "Half Christians are gay now"

Was nice to know you but you’re ignored now.

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, James123 said:

What kind of Buddhism? İn India, they got 100000 gods. You mean Zen?

Buddhism is the religion that says any human can attain Buddhahood or realization, which a guy named Gautama Buddha did through a series of stages, and that encourages its followers to pursue Buddhahood or at least get close to it in this life and then continue on to the next.

[James123]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Buddhism is the religion that says any human can attain Buddhahood or realization, which a guy named Gautama Buddha did through a series of stages, and that encourages its followers to pursue Buddhahood or at least get close to it in this life and then continue on to the next.

Reincarnation is the biggest Bs. No religion has reach what enlightenment is. İn Muslims, sufis, in Christianity, gnosticis, in Buddhist Zens, has realized. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, PurpleTree said:

"Half Christians are gay now"

Half are gay and another half are transgender, but the new messiah, Elon musk, is going to change them by hipermasculine cyborgs who will conquer the Galaxy 

[James123]

2 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Bro you’re just claiming silly stuff "Half Christians are gay now"

Was nice to know you but you’re ignored now.

İt is an assumption. But check the USA and Europe. Check the bisexual rate. 

[James123]

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Half are gay and another half are transgender, but the new messiah, Elon musk, is going to change them by hipermasculine cyborgs who will conquer the Galaxy 

İmpossible. You should appreciate to Tesla, not Elon Musk.

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

The killer was a Saudi Arabian man. Killed 1 Child and 5 women in Germany. Injured 300 people. At a Christmas market (lord baby jesus)

If he hated Islam wouldn’t he attack a mosque or something and not a Christmas market?

It's true that investigators haven't officially established a motive as of now. Nevertheless, there are endless piles of evidence that he is anti-Islam, and that is the important point: you can be non-Islamic and run cars into crowds.

Edited Monday at 01:04 PM by Carl-Richard

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

There are endless piles of evidence that he is anti-Islam, and that is the only point: you can be non-Islamic and run cars into crowds.

And why do it on a Christmas market killing women and children. Christmas market is a Christian holiday thing. Why wouldn’t he attack a mosque? Now you can say to stir anti muslim sentiment. But i’m not buying it.

[Sandhu]

In reality, most of the Islamic world has very low cognitive development. Wahabists  and Jihadists are Red and Blue. So, you'll continue to see these phenomenon. Don't fool yourself and others that Islam is somewhat very peaceful and better religion. In practice it's not. In my opinion it's the most dogmatic and violent religion. People don't  play fantasies.

I was raised in a strict Islamic environment. People around me are so foolishly dogmatic that they won't hesitate to kill anyone who bad mouth their sacred religion.

Edited Monday at 01:05 PM by Sandhu

[James123]

3 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

And why do it on a Christmas market killing women and children. Christmas market is a Christian holiday thing. Why wouldn’t he attack a mosque? Now you can say to stir anti muslim sentiment. But i’m not buying it.

Why trump supporters went into crowd and killed many Biden supporters back than? Same shit. Religion is the biggest Bs. 

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

And why do it on a Christmas market killing women and children. Christmas market is a Christian holiday thing. Why wouldn’t he attack a mosque? Now you can say to stir anti muslim sentiment. But i’m not buying it.

 

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[...] prior to the attack, police received a tip from Saudi Arabian authorities about a tweet in which Taleb threatened Germany would pay a "price" for its treatment of Saudi refugees. [...]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Magdeburg_car_attack

"Saudi refugees" as in escaping Islam.

 

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[...]

He also accused German authorities of failing to do enough to combat what he referred to as the “Islamification of Europe.”

[...]

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2024-12-21/death-toll-in-attack-on-christmas-market-in-germany-rises

So an alternative motive: Germany allows the "Islamification" of Germany -> hit Germany at its core to make its leaders think. Breivik had a similar logic.

 

But again, as I just recently added to the previous comment, they haven't established an official motive yet, and it doesn't really matter for this discussion, as he is still non-Islamic and drives cars into crowds.

Edited Monday at 03:39 PM by Carl-Richard

[PurpleTree]

17 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

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Yea thanks i already knew all of that.

Still not buying it.

Edited Monday at 01:24 PM by PurpleTree