Boys Don't Cry. Girls Do.

[Princess Arabia]

9 minutes ago, Emerald said:

Giving and being appreciated for the giving and doing challenging things to "win" the affections of the Beloved.

The reason I highlighted this is because this is so true. It will not be accepted as such by men who were taught otherwise. What they will notice, however, is that the women who give themselves too easily or who has to prove themselves to them to win them over will not hold their attention as much and they will quickly tire of that. I see a lot on here how the woman has to prove herself or to not give more that she gives or things of that nature. 

These advice are coming from a place to protect the heart and flatter the ego, but not from a place where men truly fall in love with a woman. How many times have you heard a man say, she was coming unto me, but I wasn't interested - almost always. Or she wasn't my type because of her hair color or height or shape - about the one throwing herself at him. No, she wasn't your type automatically because you didn't have to win her affection. It's subconscious and they don't recognize it as such. Men love to conquer, rule, compete and lead and when it comes to women if she's throwing herself at him he might  take the bait but that's as far as it goes until he finds one he has to work for and win over to truly be all in.

[Emerald]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Highly dubious claims that reek of feminine projection, of what women wish were true.

Men would doubt it... because men typically don't want to fall in love and aren't as focused on settling down. And even if they are focused on it, they won't be consciously thinking about these things.

They'll mostly be thinking of sex. Men are not typically fantasizing about this.

But in general, the more you try to give to a man, the more it will repel him.

And the more he gives and is appreciated for his giving, the more invested he gets.

So if you want the best possible chances for a man to fall in love with you... ask him to help you solve concrete problems. And then appreciate him for helping. And talk to him about how loved, supported, etc. it makes you feel. 

Mind you, this only works if there is already love potential with a guy. You can never do anything to make a guy fall in love with you who just doesn't already see that potential there.

But you can either allow space for it through receiving... or push it away through over-giving. 

So, that's what I mean by understanding that what men and women say they want is actually different from what works practically.

But I don't go around papering over men's desire for sex and attractive women, just because I know what they really respond to practically.

[billiesimon]

WTF is this shitty low quality thread.

Wake up, guys, there are no women and no men, you are battling inside your head.

Just masturbate and shut the fuck up, this nonsense about "men are this way/women that way" is corrupting this planet.

I have male sexual organs and I want to live my life based on my feelings and authenticity, if you are not ok with that because you want """men""" to act a certain way, just jump off a bridge and leave people alone.

It's so ridiculous, you are all so unconscious. This thread is almost fascist and so conservative.

[billiesimon]

1 minute ago, Emerald said:

Men would doubt it... because men typically don't want to fall in love and aren't as focused on settling down. And even if they are focused on it, they won't be consciously thinking about these things.

They'll mostly be thinking of sex. Men are not typically fantasizing about this.

But in general, the more you try to give to a man, the more it will repel him.

 

Very intelligent and progressive reply.

Are black people worthy of human rights?

Please answer also that.

[Leo Gura]

I doubt that a woman can make a man fall in love with her through any such tactics.

This plays right into the ultimate female fantasy: how to make a man fall in love with you.

I'm not sure what other guys fall for, but no woman can make me fall in love with her if I haven't decided that she is the right one. And that is a very high bar to clear that is outside of her control. And that's what a woman would fear the most. So she will invent all sorts of fantasies to avoid facing that.

Edited Sunday at 06:31 AM by Leo Gura

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Emerald said:

Men would doubt it... because men typically don't want to fall in love and aren't as focused on settling down. And even if they are focused on it, they won't be consciously thinking about these things.

They'll mostly be thinking of sex. Men are not typically fantasizing about this.

But in general, the more you try to give to a man, the more it will repel him.

And the more he gives and is appreciated for his giving, the more invested he gets.

So if you want the best possible chances for a man to fall in love with you... ask him to help you solve concrete problems. And then appreciate him for helping. And talk to him about how loved, supported, etc. it makes you feel. 

Mind you, this only works if there is already love potential with a guy. You can never do anything to make a guy fall in love with you who just doesn't already see that potential there.

Yes. I've seen this, experienced this and even noticed the opposite happened when I gave too much. Young and naive. If I want to repel a guy, I just act super interested and show him a lot and shower him with love, he'll run so fast. Just kidding.....but yes, this is how men typically are even if they say otherwise. 

[Emerald]

Just now, billiesimon said:

Very intelligent and progressive reply.

Are black people worthy of human rights?

Please answer also that.

This is a silly response. Do you think I'll be upset if you call me out for not being progressive?

First off, we're talking about gender, which functions very differently from race. 

Gender and sex have a strong hormonal link and different mating strategies to go along with those hormones. And so generalities can be drawn. Men and women tend to function differently with regard to sex and relationships.

With race, the generalizations typically come from things that are only culture-deep and tend towards empty stereotyping.

And I never implied that anyone wasn't worthy of human rights.

[RendHeaven]

1 minute ago, billiesimon said:

WTF is this shitty low quality thread.

Wake up, guys, there are no women and no men, you are battling inside your head.

Just masturbate and shut the fuck up, this nonsense about "men are this way/women that way" is corrupting this planet.

I have male sexual organs and I want to live my life based on my feelings and authenticity, if you are not ok with that because you want """men""" to act a certain way, just jump off a bridge and leave people alone.

It's so ridiculous, you are all so unconscious. This thread is almost fascist and so conservative.

Assuming your written tone is sincere, notice how tense and combative you are.

please be more charitable to the rest of us

4 minutes ago, billiesimon said:

Are black people worthy of human rights?

pfft obviously not

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I doubt that a woman can make a man fall in love with her through any such tactics.

Just as you give advice/procedures on how to get laid, do you call them tactics. She didn't give any tactics on how to make a man fall in love, she listed ways men usually automatically fall in love and she also stated he had to be that type or is willing. 

[RendHeaven]

13 minutes ago, Emerald said:

But I don't go around papering over men's desire for sex and attractive women, just because I know what they really respond to practically.

Yay, common ground

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Just as you give advice/procedures on how to get laid,

It's not the same thing.

Getting laid is much more manipulable, and women in general are much more manipulable since they are followers.

But hey, if you wanna believe you can make men fall in love with you, go for it. Let us know how that goes.

Edited Sunday at 06:36 AM by Leo Gura

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

It's not the same thing.

Getting laid is much more manipulable, and women in general are much more manipulable since they are followers.

Lol ok. I'll let you believe that. 

[RendHeaven]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

But hey, if you wanna believe you can make men fall in love with you, go for it. Let us know how that goes.

Field testing is king ; )

[Kairos]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's not the same thing.

Getting laid is much more manipulable, and women in general are much more manipulable since they are followers.

But hey, if you wanna believe you can make men fall in love with you, go for it. Let us know how that goes.

Is that Blackpill for women 😂 

[Princess Arabia]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I'm not sure what other guys fall for, but no woman can make me fall in love with her if I haven't decided that she is the right one. And that is a very high bar to clear that is outside of her control.

Well, what will make you come to that decision was something she controlled. That clear decision wasn't just made on it's own. 

[Emerald]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I doubt that a woman can make a man fall in love with her through any such tactics.

This plays right into the ultimate female fantasy: how to make a man fall in love with you.

I'm not sure what other guys fall for, but no woman can make me fall in love with her if I haven't decided that she is the right one. And that is a very high bar to clear that is outside of her control.

What you're saying is true from a certain angle. If he's just not that into you, he's just not that into you. And he'll know straight away if it's in the cards or isn't.

And it's one of the most important things for women to learn so that they don't over-function and over-give and waste time with a guy who's not that into you... or repel a guy who there was real potential with.

And there is nothing that a woman can do to make a man fall in love if it isn't already in the cards... other than to sort him from consideration if he's still hanging around for a relationship of convenience.

So, it's not a good idea to try to impress a man... or give him sex... or cook for him... or clean for him... or look extra beautiful for him in any kind of transactional way because men are not persuadable.

And if you're persuading, you're already losing because you're in Masculine mode. And you will over invest in low-investment guys or push "in the cards" men away.

So, you can either be open and receptive to it or unconsciously push it away. 

And you open up to deeper levels of commitment by being in receiving mode and doing the things I mentioned as it gives him space to take up. And he will invest more and more if you give him those opportunities. 

[Thought Art]

A man can fall in love with a woman who wants nothing to do with him.

[Buck Edwards]

2 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

A man can fall in love with a woman who wants nothing to do with him.

The opposite is true as well. A woman can fall in love with a man who wants nothing to do with her. 

Edited Sunday at 06:44 AM by Buck Edwards

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Well, what will make you come to that decision was something she controlled.

Or not.

[Princess Arabia]

It's not about making men fall in love with you that's being expressed here, it's what men usually fall in love with @Leo GuraThere's a difference. I don't recall in @Emerald's statements where she was giving tactics on how to make men fall in love. Those were general statements also stated by highly respected relationship experts that will tell you the same things she's stated. It's not about tactics and no one said this was any goal of any of the females here.