Boys Don't Cry. Girls Do.

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Emerald said:

And I just don't feel like telling men not to cry and stop being a pussy is going to help them find that kind of meaning and tap into that kind of tenacity and grit.

When my friends and I go out to the club to talk to girls, we tell each other: "Don't be a faggot. Approach!"

It's surprisingly effective.

But a woman will not understand such things.

Edited Thursday at 02:48 AM by Leo Gura

[integral]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Not true in my experience.

You just got to cry from a solid foundation, not from a pathetic place like a wounded child. If you are confident in your masculinity then crying will not change or shake that.

That's completely reasonable. A side note: in your experience your wealthy(possibly) and successful, I think it's easier for women to feel secure in those kinds of circumstances? Obviously if Brad Pitt was crying a woman would not be turned off lol

Edited Thursday at 02:50 AM by integral

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, integral said:

That's completely reasonable. A side note: in your experience your wealthy(possibly) and successful, I think it's easier for women to feel secure in those kinds of circumstances? Obviously if Brad Pitt was crying a woman would not be turned off lol

I find that once the girl is in love with you the problem is that she wants more emotional intimacy and most men are closed off from that. So when you cry she actually likes it because it gives her that kind of intimacy and emotional connection she craves but usually doesn't get from a strong man.

If a weak pathetic man is crying all the time then that's different.

It also matters what you're crying about: a broken Playstation or your mother getting terminal cancer.

Edited Thursday at 03:11 AM by Leo Gura

[Buck Edwards]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I find that once the girl is in love with you the problem is that she wants more emotional intimacy and most men are closed off from that. So when you cry she actually likes it because it gives her that kind of intimacy and emotional connection she craves but usually doesn't get from a strong man.

Yea I noticed this as well. 

[Emerald]

22 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

When my friends and I go out to the club to talk to girls, we tell each other: "Don't be a fa*****. Approach!"

It's surprisingly effective.

But a woman will not understand such things.

None of the things you're saying are difficult to understand.

I too am a human being. And when I was a teenager, my female friends and I would goad each other into doing scary things through this kind of ribbing around "not being a pussy".

That was just the way people talked to eachother back then. And there was a high value in my hometown put on not showing vulnerability or weakness... regardless of what gender you are.

But I see the problems that also causes if it's not just friendly goading and ribbing.

The issue comes about when you say "Men shouldn't cry" and that "being a man requires you to have mental health issues" that's the problem.

You don't have that kind of friend-to-friend camaraderie. Instead, a lot of people will just internalize what you're saying as they see what you're saying at face value.

[Buck Edwards]

2 minutes ago, Emerald said:

That was just the way people talked to eachother back then. And there was a high value in my hometown put on not showing vulnerability or weakness... regardless of what gender you are.

But how will men be able to cry if most women dislike it? It has to be a valid objection on men's side. 

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, Emerald said:

The issue comes about when you say "Men shouldn't cry" and that "being a man requires you to have mental health issues" that's the problem.

That's not my position.

Don't you think I know these things? This is so elementary.

Edited Thursday at 03:32 AM by Leo Gura

[RendHeaven]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

When my friends and I go out to the club to talk to girls, we tell each other: "Don't be a fa*****. Approach!"

It's surprisingly effective.

But a woman will not understand such things.

I would kill to go out with you & to call each other fa***** 🤝🥹

[RendHeaven]

Haha Leo gets an F slur pass

[Wyeth]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

When my friends and I go out to the club to talk to girls, we tell each other: "Don't be a fa*****. Approach!"

It's surprisingly effective.

But a woman will not understand such things.

As a man, this is cringe af Leo. Your demeanor in this whole thread is disappointing

[aurum]

33 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:

Haha Leo gets an F slur pass

I was coming home on the metro tonight and some guy called a gay couple a "bunch of f*ggots".

The one gay dude started screaming, threw his water at him and then roundhouse kicked the guy.

Don't mess with the wrong gay guy 

[Kairos]

Yeah it's because of biology as others did point out above .

Also , being sad or crying induces state of inaction and victimhood which isn't valued in man .

 

[hoodrow trillson]

Never crying is some pussy shit

[Kairos]

Anyways sadness is a pretty repulsive regardless of gender .

It's like okay you're sad, than do something about it or atleast don't make it others problem .

That's what I tell myself too .

[BlessedLion]

8 hours ago, Emerald said:

That's a really unhealthy way of thinking about manhood.

You are very wise 

[lostingenosmaze]

"Men cry not because they are weak, but because they've been strong for far too long."

 

 

[AION]

It is about not losing composure. If you don't cry as a guy but lose composure you are still fucked.

Girls will say they like a vulnerable man but that doesn't mean they want a child in a grown ass body.

The thing is most guys are emotionally younger than their physical age so they have to suppress it because their experience told them they will get punished for it when they are vulnerable, and the biggest punishers will be women.

Actually men can be very forgiving because the path of the warrior is 1 and they inherently understand the struggles of their brothers. Forgiving is not a natural feminine trait for obvious reasons.

And it is not obvious for women; because they will tell you to be vulnerable and then punish you for it. It is almost like they are the missionaries of the devil.

Edited Thursday at 09:10 AM by AION

[Buck Edwards]

44 minutes ago, AION said:

Forgiving is not a natural feminine trait for obvious reasons.

And it is not obvious for women; because they will tell you to be vulnerable and then punish you for it. It is almost like they are the missionaries of the devil.

Hate against women. 

[Kairos]

1 hour ago, AION said:

Actually men can be very forgiving because the path of the warrior is 1 and they inherently understand the struggles of their brothers. Forgiving is not a natural feminine trait for obvious reasons.

 

Not at all,man too exploit emotional people for their own gains.

Exploitation is more of a EGO thing than a gender thing .Women do it covertly , man do it overtly. 

Emotional man get bullied or teased more  from what I've noticed .

 

Edited Thursday at 10:02 AM by Kairos

[AION]

27 minutes ago, Kairos said:

Not at all,man too exploit emotional people for their own gains.

Exploitation is more of a EGO thing than a gender thing .Women do it covertly , man do it overtly. 

Emotional man get bullied or teased more  from what I've noticed .

 

Huh? We weren't talking about exploitation of emotions. We were talking about vulnerability and how that relates in male/female dynamics. Please don't straw man me.

It is only feminine guys that hold grudges and vendetta's. There is a reason why gossip is not a thing that happens within male dominated groups.

Edited Thursday at 10:26 AM by AION