How to develop discipline?

[Davino]

May this be a space to share resources and insights on discipline. This is my 2025 goal, to build self-discipline.

Some interesting videos to start contemplating:

 

[Buck Edwards]

@Davino Happy New Year. 

Edited December 31, 2024 by Buck Edwards

[RightHand]

Having a 9 to 5 job brings a lot of structure to my life. It’s easier not to squander my free time because there’s not much of it.

 

@Buck Edwards It's still not New Year in Europe 

Edited December 31, 2024 by RightHand

[Buck Edwards]

4 minutes ago, RightHand said:

 It's still not New Year in Europe 

It's 31st December in Europe. New Years is celebrated on 31st December night. Advance wishes for the night. 

 

Edited December 31, 2024 by Buck Edwards

[lostingenosmaze]

This is one of my favorite essays on the Internet. Sometimes discipline is simply being able to consistently do the thing. Anything else is procrastination. Definitely applies to me and is something I remind myself all the time.

https://strangestloop.io/essays/things-that-arent-doing-the-thing?

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

LOL if you need a discipline to do something, you are by definition a slave because you need to force yourself to do something you don't like

[Davino]

3 hours ago, Buck Edwards said:

It's 31st December in Europe. New Years is celebrated on 31st December night. Advance wishes for the night. 

So disciplined you already congratulated us all!

Happy new year to all!!!❤️

[RightHand]

21 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

LOL if you need a discipline to do something, you are by definition a slave because you need to force yourself to do something you don't like

It's not that simple. Discipline can be a form of self-love.

 

[Davino]

@RightHand nevermind, one day he'll understand

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

14 minutes ago, RightHand said:

It's not that simple. Discipline can be a form of self-love.

 

Yeah but in that case it no longer xan be called self discipline because you want to do it. Or you have forced yourself into such a weak slave position (for example, being morbidly obese) that you now have to use self discipline because you dislike yourself so much now that you can't do naturally what it takes to change.

Of course some self discipline is necessary but to set it up as a 2025 goal? LOL most things that you want to gain by the so called discipline are what society dictated would make you a more valuable individual

[Davino]

 

[Salvijus]

Borrow it from those who have it until yours becomes as certain as theirs. By association you can aquire qualities of another entity without doing the work yourself. That's the meaning of grace. 

Edited December 31, 2024 by Salvijus

[sholomar]

It's best to try replacing one habit with another... if you just create a vacuum you will have a hard time of it. Your brain will want to "do" something. I just realized how powerful open focus really is in cultivating the parasympathetic nervous system, so mastering going into that state of alpha brainwave dominance on demand will be something I will be doing as a skill, for starters.

Then, maybe some guitar, and finding a wife.  Shit that doesn't involve screens.  Maybe I'll quit my job and start over somewhere else... I dunno.. it just feels like the right time.

Edited December 31, 2024 by sholomar

[Davino]

On 31/12/2024 at 9:33 PM, sholomar said:

it just feels like the right time.

Go ahead then

[Davino]

@Salvijus Interesting perspective. I hope to soon start working in a very high quality company and maybe I'll learn quite some things by osmosis 

[Davino]

Insight I got today

Quote

Discipline is the exercise of Pure Will

 

[Identity]

This video was helpful for me in creating more nuance about what discipline is, and isn’t.

I’ve been contemplating for a while what ‘conscious discipline’ would look like.

Mainly because of the limiting aspects unconscious discipline can have. The self-guilting, the lack of self-awareness, the boxing oneself in with too much structure. And what Teal Swan refers to as bulldozing.

In conscious discipline none of those elements are necessary. One can have complete self-awareness, compassion, nuance. And at the same time decide from will to act in a way that is beyond the path of least resistance. To act in alignment what one believes to be right, that contributes to their vision, that contributes to expansion.

When developing discipline, I would be wary of unconscious discipline, as I find that there is plenty of that to go around in the personal development spheres.

Then again, arguably there is a natural evolution where one first needs more of these unconscious elements as support structure before letting them fall away. At least, that seems to be the progression happening in my own life.

I hope some of these thoughts help you with your goal to develop self-discipline this year. Good luck!

[Salvijus]

Being in the environment full of diciplined people is definitely more supportive than being in the environment full of addicts. However you can borrow qualities of those that are not physically present with you even. If one connects with a grace of a guru or a deity of some sort, their qualities and presence will hover over you, uplifting you, until yours becomes as certain as theirs. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Salvijus