Toxic dating works better and it's killing me - how to stay authentic?

[integral]

12 hours ago, AION said:

@integral how did you feed that to Claude? Because Claude says it can't open url's.

I used the Chrome extension I built to get the content and automatically paste it to Claude. But I had to go to each page so there's eight total pages.

Say -> Claude Page

This command will send the page content to Claude. If you do this for all eight pages you get all the content. 

It also works for videos on YouTube.

You can also just click the microphone and talk directly to the page or the video.

In the future I'm planning on making it an AI agent that will automatically get all the pages or research needed for particular topic and automatically paste it to an AI or give a real-time response.

I have a update pending that is actually going to fix the real time function to make it much more usable. It just needs a couple days before you could get access to it. The real-time voice assistant on my Chrome extension is Free if anyone's interested.

Edited Thursday at 08:53 PM by integral

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Wyeth said:

Leo should get out of Las Vegas if he wants to get over that paradigm lock, so many materialistic stage orange women there that only reinforce his view of dating and women.

Lol

You make it sound like the women in Vegas are some special breed of materialistic sluts, when the women here are just normal women who fly in from all over the world.

[Something Funny]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Lol

You make it sound like the women in Vegas are some special breed of materialistic sluts, when the women here are just normal women who fly in from all over the world.

There are many people who are never going to go to vegas because they are not interested, no?

[Leo Gura]

19 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

There are many people who are never going to go to vegas because they are not interested, no?

People are people. People get drunk in Vegas no different than they get drunk at a local bar. Vegas is just more grand.

Edited Thursday at 09:34 PM by Leo Gura

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

17 hours ago, Buck Edwards said:

I cannot blame men for this because men are very myopic when it comes to women in my opinion. 

Well, we do have the perfect teachers to learn the art of narcisism from

[Something Funny]

@Leo Gura yeah, but like if you say that somebody lives in rural texas, you get a certain image of a person (or at least of all the people living there, in general). I feel like this is also the case for vegas, and every other place, really. 

Do you disagree?

Edited Thursday at 09:39 PM by Something Funny

[The Crocodile]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

People are people. People get drunk in Vegas no different than they get drunk at a local bar. Vegas is just more grand.

Grand? Maybe you admit you moved to a fake scam city artificially contrived in the middle of the desert for the sole purpose of drugs, gambling, prostitution, debauchery, and alcoholism, just so you fulfill your monkey needs for a few years before being stranded there.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

People are people. People get drunk in Vegas no different than they get drunk at a local bar. Vegas is just more grand.

Yeah people have fun everywhere but people's inhibitions or lack thereof can alter greatly depending on their location, I mean the saying "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" exists for a reason

[Emerald]

18 hours ago, Buck Edwards said:

@Emerald Men need pickup advice to get women. Men want to attract women, not study women. If they follow your approach, they will not get women. That's why Leo offers pickup advice. 

This post isn't actually about attracting women. So, pickup advice isn't going to help in this case.

In fact, many of the posts on this section of the forum can't be helped with generic pickup advice.

But there are plenty of practical techniques that men can use to attract women, which can be used without extrapolating skewed narratives about women to go along with them.

But what tends to happen is that Leo and others find what works and want to weave that together with a certain ideological understanding of gender to create a narrative of certainty.

They are trying to have the illusion that they "know thy enemy" better than the enemy knows themselves. So, they become blinkered and attached.

And my issue has never been about the practical techniques. I never once said to abstain from doing what works. 

People get onto me about that. But it's just that what I'm saying is challenging comforting but false narratives, so the strawman of my perspective is that I'm against what's practical.

And they can use that to say to themselves that my that my perspective is nonsense and that I'm out of touch.

But it's all about maintaining the comfort of certainty and simplicity that the false narratives give the illusion of providing.

That way they can keep looking to what works practically as evidence that they should continue believing their ideological narratives as absolute truth.

So, my issue with it is myopia and paradigm lock... and the fact that men get really brainwashed into these narratives to where they aren't open to understanding anything new.

And they become wrapped up in their own story so much that they lose sight of what's real and how human dynamics really operate. And this ends up biting them in ways that they don't consciously perceive yet suffer great from. 

[Emerald]

5 hours ago, Wyeth said:

Leo should get out of Las Vegas if he wants to get over that paradigm lock, so many materialistic stage orange women there that only reinforce his view of dating and women.

I'm not sure that women in Vegas are actually super materialistic. I think you're mixing up the imagery associated with the city with the people.

Vegas is often associated with the imagery of show girls and wheeler/dealer gambler types.

And Leo himself isn't a wheeler/dealer gambler type, yet lives in Vegas.

The nature of the paradigm lock that Leo has that I'm referring to is that he tends to overlook humanity's communal filial nature and tries to boil human beings down to a Social Darwinian-esque paradigm.... which means seeing human dating/relationship dynamics as an objective hierarchical value exchange. 

It's sort of like stripping the humanity out of humanity... and believing that this kind of Darwinian reductionism will produce better insights about how human beings operate. Rather than actually observing the less-simple, less-sexy, and less-fetishizable but more accurate ways that we actually do operate.

It seems to me that he believes that our communal nature is just a veneer that conceals and masks our true nature. 

And it will produce simpler insights to look from that angle that can help to get a sense of what women in the aggregate find valuable in a hierarchical sense... but will also create a false worldview if the practical good that is produced by that worldview is mistakenly seen as evidence of truth.

And operating through the Social Darwinian lens of objective heirarchal value exchange and believing that it is truth will create anti-social ways of operating and fears for men of not being able to be loved for who they are as a person.

So, there's a lot of ways that I observe these narratives backfiring... especially when men are convinced the narratives are the absolute truth.

Edited Thursday at 11:34 PM by Emerald

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Lol

You make it sound like the women in Vegas are some special breed of materialistic sluts, when the women here are just normal women who fly in from all over the world.

Yes, but a lot of the people that live there, at least when I lived there for 2yrs, were functioning alcoholics and/or pill poppers, and I'm talking about normal working people and I mean a lot.

Edited Friday at 12:22 AM by Princess Arabia

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

functioning alcoholics and/or pill poppers

Do you really think these people are not all around every major city?

There are alcoholics in every bar and club around the world.

Alcohol is available everywhere, and rural areas tend to have more alcoholics from what I understand because there's nothing better to do. Drug addict concentrations are higher in smaller towns with bad economies and nothing to do.

Vegas is a thriving economy, growing fast, lots of opportunities.

Edited Friday at 02:50 AM by Leo Gura

[Buck Edwards]

5 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Well, we do have the perfect teachers to learn the art of narcisism from

If you think so... If you think women are narcissists, well women are women and not much can be done about it. 

Edited Friday at 03:18 AM by Buck Edwards

[CARDOZZO]

History repeats itself.

1. Nice guys trying to understand woman.
2. Bad boys does not care and just f%c# all them  
3. Nice guys feel ashamed and angry.
4. Nice guys turn into bad boy behavior to fuck.

Woman love to be treated badly. Sad but true. 

[Emerald]

1 minute ago, CARDOZZO said:

History repeats itself.

1. Nice guys trying to understand woman.
2. Bad boys does not care and just f%c# all them  
3. Nice guys feel ashamed and angry.
4. Nice guys turn into bad boy behavior to fuck.

Woman love to be treated badly. Sad but true. 

A bit of victim's mentality, eh?

[CARDOZZO]

22 minutes ago, Emerald said:

A bit of victim's mentality, eh?

That's what you see all over the internet. These guys are lost. They can't see a way out. They become evil manipulatory humans just to fuck. How insane is it?

Edited Friday at 03:14 AM by CARDOZZO

[CARDOZZO]

Women are not guilty. It is just pure biology + years of evolution. Don't be mad at your roots. That's what made you survive until now.

Edited Friday at 03:14 AM by CARDOZZO

[Buck Edwards]

11 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

History repeats itself.

1. Nice guys trying to understand woman.
2. Bad boys does not care and just f%c# all them  
3. Nice guys feel ashamed and angry.
4. Nice guys turn into bad boy behavior to fuck.

Woman love to be treated badly. Sad but true. 

Then don't be surprised when the woman leaves you. Because you couldn't give a fuck about her. 

[Emerald]

Just now, CARDOZZO said:

That's what you see all over the internet. These guys are lost. They can't see a way out, They become evil manipulatory humans just to fuck. How insane is it?

Definitely insane. And I've encountered a lot of men in this nice guy/bad boy delusion when I was in my teens and early 20s.

And the issue in the first place is that they perceived themselves as nice guys when they were just ashamed and self-deprecating because of their shame, which doesn't have anything to do with being nice or pleasant to be around. 

But it tends to be the way good guy everyman main characters are written in movies to show that they are the good guy. So, they believe that being unassuming and self-critical makes them come off as nice and kind.

But they were already exuding red flag vibes that scare women away. They just weren't aware of it. But it comes through in the vibe.

And then, they think, "I guess women just like assholes. I need to become an asshole to get women to like me." But they were unconscious to the fact that they already were giving off asshole vibes.

And then, they become aggressive and the red flags become more overt and scare women away even more.

But they keep doubling down because they thought the issue was that they were a nice guy when they were never actually nice. 

And they will come to the conclusion, "I guess I wasn't enough of a bad boy to get sex. Let me triple down."

And the cycle repeats.

[CARDOZZO]

16 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

Then don't be surprised when the woman leaves you. Because you couldn't give a fuck about her. 

I'm not talking about relationships. It is a different game. The majority of men these days could not even get laid. Imagine having a relationship