Chris Langan Man With 200 IQ

[gettoefl]

14 minutes ago, Candle said:

I don't respect the human made laws too much (cz they are not supreme, they can be faulty too). If I get caught I'll have no guilt. I'll have suffering (physical suffering of the prison). 

I think I'll have no problem in killing anyone. 

But I'll have a wound in my heart (somewhere I would not feel good) that I killed a human being , cz only the psychological part of the person was my enemy, not the whole physical body. I may even cry seeing the innocent dead body. 

I show both tendencies (hero and villain). I want to be the worst villain in anger/revenge.

And I also want to show my face to my loved ones. 

I can kill 1,00,000 terrorists without any guilt at all. (Maybe I'm wrong...)

But I'm worried about the time when I'll be very close to death. I'll have a heavy heart then. 

Sometimes people need to be killed.

They have it coming.

Most of us will kill to stay alive.

If my life is okay, I am happy to be killed.

And to be honest, my life is perfectly okay.

[Buck Edwards]

10 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

Sometimes people need to be killed.

Why? 

[gettoefl]

5 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

Why? 

For example there are some who believe in the death penalty no?

[Buck Edwards]

Just now, gettoefl said:

For example there are some who believe in the death penalty no?

I don't. 

[The Crocodile]

22 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's exactly what I do. But this requires very serious development, maturity, and consciousness which most humans are not interested in.

The stuff I teach is designed to build the deep foundation necessary for such serious beauty. Otherwise the mind will just demonize it, as Langan does. 200 IQ but still lost in petty human demonizations.

21. God had opened my eyes; for I saw the nobility of the vulgar, the attractiveness of the repellent, the perfection of the maimed and the beauty of the hideous.

22. Forgiveness is praised by the Christian and the Vaishnava, but for me, I ask, “What have I to forgive and whom?”

23. God struck me with a human hand; shall I say then, “I pardon Thee thy insolence, O God”?

24. God gave me good in a blow. Shall I say, “I forgive thee, O Almighty One, the harm and the cruelty, but do it not again”?

25. When I pine at misfortune and call it evil, or am jealous and disappointed, then I know that there is awake in me again the eternal fool.

26. When I see others suffer, I feel that I am unfortunate, but the wisdom that is not mine, sees the good that is coming and approves.

27. Sir Philip Sidney said of the criminal led out to be hanged, “There, but for the grace of God, goes Sir Philip Sidney.” Wiser, had he said, “There, by the grace of God, goes Sir Philip Sidney.”

28. God is a great & cruel Torturer because He loves. You do not understand this, because you have not seen & played with Krishna.

29. One called Napoleon a tyrant and imperial cut-throat; but I saw God armed striding through Europe.

30. I have forgotten what vice is and what virtue; I can only see God, His play in the world and His will in humanity.

31. I saw a child wallowing in the dirt and the same child cleaned by his mother and resplendent, but each time I trembled before his utter purity.

--Aurobindo

 

[Inliytened1]

Intelligence has little to do with enlightenment.   Yes you have to be intelligent.   But there are different types of intelligence and IQ does not cover this.  You could have a 200 IQ and be further away from enlightenment than a rat.   I'd say It's more about being open..not just open minded but your heart must be open to many different things.  This can be a detriment in everyday life but it is a component that can be beneficial to discovering your true nature.  So IQ doesn't really mean a whole lot.   Now his intelligence will probably allow him to more accurately logically conclude the nature of reality but actually waking up to it is another matter.

[Javfly33]

9 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Intelligence has little to do with enlightenment.   Yes you have to be intelligent.   But there are different types of intelligence and IQ does not cover this.  You could have a 200 IQ and be further away from enlightenment than a rat.   I'd say It's more about being open..not just open minded but your heart must be open to many different things.  This can be a detriment in everyday life but it is a component that can be beneficial to discovering your true nature.  So IQ doesn't really mean a whole lot.   Now his intelligence will probably allow him to more accurately logically conclude the nature of reality but actually waking up to it is another matter.

I agree, I'd even say it can be even more difficult since society tells you if you have a high IQ you are supposed to be more 'intelligent' therefore your ego might get bigger by thinking you are smarter and thus rely more on thinking mind.

I'd say a big issue is defining intelligence as intellect. The source of reality which has created that brain is what is intelligent, the IQ is just a limited representation of it, but who knows I don´t have an idea how a high IQ person understands reality or if is easier or difficult to open to mystical possibilities.

Last year I met a girl which had high IQ and it was pretty spiritually inclined so maybe is true they are not both necessarily conflicted. 

[Carl-Richard]

11 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Intelligence has little to do with enlightenment.   Yes you have to be intelligent.   But there are different types of intelligence and IQ does not cover this.  You could have a 200 IQ and be further away from enlightenment than a rat.   I'd say It's more about being open..not just open minded but your heart must be open to many different things.  This can be a detriment in everyday life but it is a component that can be beneficial to discovering your true nature.  So IQ doesn't really mean a whole lot.   Now his intelligence will probably allow him to more accurately logically conclude the nature of reality but actually waking up to it is another matter.

By the words he spoke in this video, he seems as spiritual as people here who talk about spirituality.

Edited Wednesday at 11:53 AM by Carl-Richard

[Salvijus]

Using intellect to achieve enlightenment is not unknown phenomena. There is a thing called gnana yoga for a reason. 

[Ishanga]

26 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Using intellect to achieve enlightenment is not unknown phenomena. There is a thing called gnana yoga for a reason. 

Agreed.. I think the key Quality of a Gnana Yogi is Clarity, You Perceive Reality as it is, not via the filters of mind, ideology, karma or whatever...I don't think one can get to high Spiritual Levels of Realization via information coming in like we use today, by reading, watching and such, it can inspire and allow some changes to occur but one would already have to be quite advanced to have something they read transform them imo... Intellect is like a magnifying glass, it puts super focus on something, where as Enlightenment is seeing the Whole picture, both are possible and needed..

[Leo Gura]

Awakening is a function of state, not intellect.

Which is why no one at MIT is Awake.

Edited Wednesday at 02:13 PM by Leo Gura

[Nilsi]

On 31.12.2024 at 2:16 AM, Carl-Richard said:

In the video, he literally describes the process of deconstructing the ego (or the identification with it) leading up death, to be hell. The more ego identification, the more resistance and suffering at death, the more hell. The truth is that hell is happening constantly as long as you're identified with the ego, but God allows you to not experience it all at once or in its fullest glory. He allows you to have your limited identified experience and be somewhat fine with that and live your life. He lets you pretend you're actually an ego, shielding you from the fact that you are separating yourself from God in its fullest nature (the Absolute).

That’s such a vulgar notion of God. The only threshold to heaven is to dissolve the false distinction between absolute and limited experience. But this requires confronting the raw tragedy of life and abandoning the comforting illusion of eternal salvation. Heaven is, at best, always already fleeting.

Quote

What do you think, you Higher Men?
Am I a prophet? A dreamer? A drunkard?
An interpreter of dreams? A midnight bell?
A drop of dew? An odour and scent of eternity?
Do you not hear it? Do you not smell it?
My world has just become perfect:
Midnight is also noonday, pain is also joy,
A curse is also a blessing, the night is also a sun—
Be gone, or you will learn: a wise man is also a fool.
Did you ever say Yes to one joy?
O my friends, then you said Yes to all woe as well.
All things are chained and entwined together,
All things are in love.
If ever you wanted one moment twice,
If ever you said: ‘You please me, happiness, instant, moment!’
Then you wanted everything to return!
You wanted everything anew, everything eternal,
Everything chained, entwined together, everything in love.
O that is how you loved the world,
You everlasting men, loved it eternally and for all time:
And you say even to woe: ‘Go, but return!’
For all joy wants—eternity!"

To me, this represents the highest form of spirituality attainable by a human being.

 

Edited Wednesday at 01:59 PM by Nilsi

[Salvijus]

Gnana yoga exists for a reason. 

[Inliytened1]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Awakening is a function of state, not intellect.

Which is why no one at MIT is Awake.

Well yes but any old fool can't just take a psychedelic and awaken.   It doesn't seem to work that way.  

Edited Wednesday at 05:24 PM by Inliytened1

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Well yes but any old fool can't just take a psychedelic and awaken.   It doesn't seem to work that way.  

But also sometimes an old fool CAN just take a psychedelic and awaken.

The point is that intelligence is not the main factor, or else all the smartest people would be awake.

Edited Wednesday at 05:37 PM by Leo Gura

[Javfly33]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Well yes but any old fool can't just take a psychedelic and awaken.   It doesn't seem to work that way.  

Are you "permanently" enlightened @Inliytened1? 🤔

[Salvijus]

Gnana yoga 

[Inliytened1]

29 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Are you "permanently" enlightened @Inliytened1? 🤔

What's that even mean 😳 

I mean yeah I am lucid in the dream now..although most times I just lose myself in it.  I cause myself a lot of unnecessary stress when I get lost like that.  But it's what makes it real.  If I were to stay in a state of Absolute Consciousness I couldn't exist as this particular ego..which I currently am very attached to for whatever reason.  Maybe because the whole dream will dissolve with the ego.  So I'm very attached to the dream. To the point I'm surprised I woke up at all with self inquiry. But maybe i hold on tighter now after awakening.

 

Edited Wednesday at 05:56 PM by Inliytened1

[Leo Gura]

There is no better example than Chris Langan of why IQ will not save you in this work.

[Salvijus]

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