Chris Langan Man With 200 IQ

[Joker_Theory]

Is there any Truth to what he is saying?

Can someone with an 200 IQ be on a higher consciousness as others??

I know i still have fears about hell and i know if you believe it to be true you can manifest it or is this just New age bs?

Do you have to have Gods attention or God know you to move on to higher demontion's or aka Heaven?

Thanks

Edited December 30, 2024 by Joker_Theory

[Hojo]

@Joker_Theory Yes this is all true. I hated God and denied God and God turned its face from me and there was nothing there. When you are dead if you dont beleive in God God will take the form of non existence. If you beleive in God it will exist. Thats purgatory its just you there with God but God is showing you his nothing face. Purgatory is real its the void.

If you know God when you look at the void you will not be scared. If you dont you will freak out cause you died.

The good news is all you have to do is have faith that God exists in your core.

I do not beleive that the experiences of hell are infinite only God is infinite. God will always give you more chances. It can just take a long time.

The highest IQ thing is just him using it to promote his theory IQ has nothing to do with God. A mentally retarded man can understand God and just not be able to construct the thoughts with language.

If you ask yourself do I really know God enough to not go to purgatory you are seeking. You will encounter fear if you do not know that means you are looking in the right place.

Edited December 30, 2024 by Hojo

[Joker_Theory]

Thanks man.

I believe God exist with my whole heart and believe God is all the things Leo's said in his What is God part 1 and 2 episodes but i don't know if God know's me and i only know God, the real God not the one Christianity teaches us by what Leo said and what i have read before that from others that corresponds to that and BELIEVE THAT WITH MY WHOLE HEART but is it enough..

I so badly want to go full in on learning what God, Truth and Love is and know they are one and the same but i have a job that takes all my time and work overtime till late. Then i am too tired to meditate cause i fall asleep sleep.

I need this job and can't afford to loose it cause i have to look after my mom. I suffer from severe social anxiety and phobia that i can't even talk to people for longer than 10 min but i can work with them not speaking to them so they just tolerate me. I am a 45 year old man that has nothing other than his mom and hobbies. I know i sound like i am playing the victim and maybe i am a little but i am not looking for sympathy but i can't look for another job cause it took long to get this one.

I am broke so i need this job and my biggest wish i just want to meditate and do all the things to heal myself and not be in this survival state and ratrace and do the real work i know i can do if i just have time to do it which i feel like i am stuck in this matrix if you will. Time feels like my worse enemy atm.

I just don't want to go to hell and know that so it's one less fear i have to worry about. I decided to try harder this/next year to start to meditate in the mornings 20 min again(use to meditate 45 min twice a day when i didn't have a job and got covid for 5 months and stopped) and try to be conscious of being conscious while working to becoming self liberated. Easier said than done but at least going to try and study and listen to more of Leo's stuff and contemplate it till i integrate it but lets hope work doesn't get into the way. Also, going to try to know thy self and see where that takes me.

Thanks for listening to my rant if you read so far.

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, Joker_Theory said:

Is there any Truth to what he is saying?

Relying on other people's opinions is a poor way to arrive at truth. It probably doesn't even work in the end. 

Edited December 30, 2024 by Salvijus

[Javfly33]

What is with all this God Talk? Is this a Christian forum in disguise or what? 😂😂

[Joker_Theory]

That's true but maybe one can find out if that is true and also getting opinions of others what they think. If you have a site like this you might get someone with an experiences or 2 that can help you relax that fear and also motivate you to get the answer for yourself but i get what you saying. thanks.

I would just like maybe someone to send me on the right track how not to go to hell or purgatory or videos to watch that might help me with that.

[Joker_Theory]

@Javfly33 Not quite but a God Forum i think so

 

Edited December 30, 2024 by Joker_Theory

[Javfly33]

35 minutes ago, Joker_Theory said:

@Javfly33 Not quite but a God Forum i think so

 

Maybe is the forum of God? 

[Joker_Theory]

He says that if God displeases you he won't look at you anymore and don't want to know you but if God is Love or even unconditional love, how can God be displeased by you or anything that you do?? 

How can God cut you off if you can't be separated from God and we all are one? If God is all Good and All Loving why will he do that and be upset/displeased at you??

Also, according to him then you still exist and what you are(evil)or how your mind thinks you will create a world/demontion or realm that is evil and that is what hell is full of what your mind is full of aka who you are.

Could someone please help me understand?

[WelcometoReality]

38 minutes ago, Joker_Theory said:

He says that if God displeases you he won't look at you anymore and don't want to know you but if God is Love or even unconditional love, how can God be displeased by you or anything that you do?? 

You can't displease God.

3 hours ago, Joker_Theory said:

I know i still have fears about hell and i know if you believe it to be true you can manifest it or is this just New age bs?

Being afraid of hell IS hell.

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, Joker_Theory said:

He says that if God displeases you he won't look at you anymore and don't want to know you but if God is Love or even unconditional love, how can God be displeased by you or anything that you do?? 

How can God cut you off if you can't be separated from God and we all are one? If God is all Good and All Loving why will he do that and be upset/displeased at you??

Also, according to him then you still exist and what you are(evil)or how your mind thinks you will create a world/demontion or realm that is evil and that is what hell is full of what your mind is full of aka who you are.

Could someone please help me understand?

Just understand this one thing:

Joy excludes suffering. 

Wisdom excludes stupidity. 

Faith and trust excludes fear and doubt. 

Because it's a spectrum. 

Those on the spectrum of suffering are excluded from Joy. 

Those who are on the spectrum of fear are excluded from perfect faith and trust. 

Those on the spectrum of stupidity are excluded from wisdom. 

Those on the spectrum of hell (stupidity, fear, suffering, limitation) can be called to be excluded from God's kingdom(Joy, love, wisdom, perfect faith and unlimitedness) .  

What side of the spectrum you fall is your responsibility. 

Edited December 30, 2024 by Salvijus

[Leo Gura]

Can Consciousness dream up a Hell? Sure.

But it is not a place of punishment as Christians want it to be. As if you steal some candy and you're going to Hell. That is a Christian fantasy.

Edited December 30, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Frenk]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

As if you steal some candy and you're going to Hell. That is a Christian fantasy.

What if you kill? Still no punishment?

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, Frenk said:

What if you kill? Still no punishment?

There are no punishments, but your selfish actions may come with natural consequences, suffering, and regret.

God has no need to punish you for murder. But as a murderer you may encounter a lot of suffering as your consciousness tends to get stuck at that level. The more dark stuff you do the more your consciousness will tend towards dark imaginings. Low consciousness people tend to dream of demons, gore, perverted things, and such.

It's about purity of Consciousness/Mind. The more dirty and corrupt your mind the more hellish your dreams will be. Not because God is punishing you but because that's just the direction your mind has chose to dream in. Twisted minds dream of negative and ugly things. Pure minds focus on positive and beautiful things.

Have you noticed how abused and suffering children draw dark and negative things while happy children draw flowers and rainbows? That's basically a microcosm of the macrocosmic workings of Mind/Consciousness.

Edited December 30, 2024 by Leo Gura

[emil1234]

I watched a decently long interview with this fellow, agreeing with a lot of stuff he was saying, right up until he said that God will punish you and send you to hell if you dont believe in him. lol.

[Salvijus]

2 minutes ago, emil1234 said:

 until he said that God will punish you and send you to hell if you dont believe in him. lol.

His logic and thought process is much more complicated than that. Honestly it's hard to follow his thought process because he doesn't even explain how he arrives at his conclusions most of the time. He just shares the end result of his decades worth of contemplation. To really understand his position would take enormous amount of digging into his work imo. 

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Salvijus said:

enormous amount of digging into his work

His work will not lead you to God-Realization. That's the most important point.

Edited December 30, 2024 by Leo Gura

[emil1234]

@Salvijus cant speak on that, only watched the one interview with him. his points were all extremely methodical and well structured, right until he dropped the "god gets pissed if u dont believe in him" which was abrupt as fuck

[Salvijus]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

His work will not lead you to God-Realization.

I think his work is about giving a logically consistent model of reality that proves the existence God. Not really about entering God conciousness samadhi. I'm under the impression to fully understand the model he made and to successfully understand the amount of logic behind it would take a very serious study. It's just my personal impression tho. 

[Salvijus]

12 minutes ago, emil1234 said:

@Salvijus cant speak on that, only watched the one interview with him. his points were all extremely methodical and well structured, right until he dropped the "god gets pissed if u dont believe in him" which was abrupt as fuck

What sounds aprupt af may actually make sense once you allow yoruself to really study his logic. Which I myself haven't spent the time to do so. But I suspect it would take a long time because he does not explain much in those videos, he just drops the final conclusions of decades worth of contemplation. 

Edited December 30, 2024 by Salvijus