"Reality is imaginary. That's the ultimate understanding." blog post. What about love

[The Crocodile]

10 minutes ago, Loveeee said:

In the video I linked at 2:09:05  you say "the definitive answer for what reality is, there's only one word for it, and the word is love"

So you no longer agree with that ? If not how would you rectify that statement ? If yes that is contradicting your blog post 

 

[Buck Edwards]

3 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

 

What psychedelics have you tried? 

[Leo Gura]

34 minutes ago, Loveeee said:

So you no longer agree with that?

What I said is valid.

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If yes that is contradicting your blog post 

No. You're just looking at the situation too one-dimensionally.

There are many ways to describe God/Consciousness, emphasizing some aspects over others. I invent descriptions from many angles, offering you new ways of seeing it, helping you to triangulate it.

If I ask you to describe your girlfriend in one sentence, you could describe her in many different ways. That's what I do with my aphorisms. They are not total descriptions, as that would take a 1000-page book.

I can give you 20 different descriptions of God, all valid, useful, and profound. And I have. If you cling to any one of them then you won't have the full picture.

Edited December 30, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

Why do you want to stop existing forever?   What I'm noticing though a theme in your posts recently about "stopping dreaming" or stopping existence

I never said about stopping existing, I said stopping existing in a limited way. 

When you only know limited existence, when they tell you ending limitation you see it as a death, as ending existence.

Only if you have touched something beyond the limited, you have no problem in discarding the limited, and go towards the real thing. 

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Honestly I'm not sure..  Are you depressed?  

Not at all, in fact incredibly intense breakthroughs are happening lately, so possibilities of Liberation beyond what I thought was possible are opening up to me. Just sharing the joy and excitement of it. 

Edited December 30, 2024 by Javfly33

[The Crocodile]

34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

They are not total descriptions, as that would take a 1000-page book.

That's called The Life Divine by Sri Aurobindo.

[Someone here]

28 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

I never said about stopping existing, I said stopping existing in a limited way. 

When you only know limited existence, when they tell you ending limitation you see it as a death, as ending existence.

Only if you have touched something beyond the limited, you have no problem in discarding the limited, and go towards the real thing. 

Not at all, in fact incredibly intense breakthroughs are happening lately, so possibilities of Liberation beyond what I thought was possible are opening up to me. Just sharing the joy and excitement of it. 

Samsara is Nirvana. Form is formlessness.  There is no where to go . If you think you can "spiritualise " your way out of this" gross limited dense physical realm" into some sort of unlimited Disney land of spiritual perfection you can forget about it. 

What is sought is what's already here . The goal of doing spirituality is not to arrive at a different place from the here & now but to be fully present and content with what is .but you do you. 

[Loveeee]

48 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What I said is valid.

No. You're just looking at the situation too one-dimensionally.

There are many ways to describe God/Consciousness, emphasizing some aspects over others. I invent descriptions from many angles, offering you new ways of seeing it, helping you to triangulate it.

If I ask you to describe your girlfriend in one sentence, you could describe her in many different ways. That's what I do with my aphorisms. They are not total descriptions, as that would take a 1000-page book.

I can give you 20 different descriptions of God, all valid, useful, and profound. And I have. If you cling to any one of them then you won't have the full picture.

"The definitive answer for what reality is, there's only one word for it, and the word is love."

"Reality is imaginary. That's the ultimate understanding."

Translation 

"If I had to sum up reality in one word, it would be Love"

"If I had to sum up reality in one word, it would be Imagination" 

[Leo Gura]

@Loveeee You are being silly.

[The Crocodile]

6 minutes ago, Loveeee said:

How ?? 

You have to reach a certain point with philosophy and the intellect that it's transcended, you've seen everything, the contradictions of everything and the resolution of those contradictions, pattern recognition has been exercised enough and you can play the game, but you can rise above into a sor of luminous space of knowledge where all ideas are true, and you can approach everything from a higher view. Then you've risen above contradictions. You move out of falsehood and into truth + you see truth everywhere.

There's a point in human games where you outgrow the game, but you can still compete with intellectuals fine. Like if someone read a bunch when they were young, goes off into the wilderness meditating for forty years, returns, but can still have a debate about what some critic is saying, "But this philosopher and this phenomenologist and so and such, blah blah." The wilderness man could still compete fine, because he actually read it and hasn't lost any of his rational faculty, he's just risen far above logic and reason.

There's also probably a point in meditation too that's like this, where you rise above the meditation pretending that people do.

[Loveeee]

26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Loveeee You are being silly.

You know you're hitting the simulation's computational limit when Leo gives you a generic NPC answer to evade your question 

Gun to your head, sum up reality in one word Leo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I don't understand the confusion here - there isn't a contradiction I can see.

I suspect there is some discrepancy in understanding the words 'love' & 'imaginary'

This physical realm doesn't exist.

Only consciousness, love, exists.

It's not the brain, the 'matter' that gives rise to consciousness (synonymous with love).

Its consciousness, spirit, energy, love... that gives rise to MATTER.

WE are creating this material world with spirit, energy, frequency. Love is creating this material world.

This is how I understand Leo's term 'imaginary' 

If you want some evidence of this - look at quantum physics. We are only able to reconcile this branch of science by understanding it is consciousness that gives rise to matter. 

Again as always - my experience, my experience 

[mmKay]

@Loveeee

[Javfly33]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Samsara is Nirvana. Form is formlessness.  There is no where to go . If you think you can "spiritualise " your way out of this" gross limited dense physical realm" into some sort of unlimited Disney land of spiritual perfection you can forget about it. 

Is more complex than that.

Is you Who is using Disney land explanations.

I dont have any theory, conclusion or explanation because anything that you produce in your little intellectual Mind can never explain and grasp the design and complexity of Reality.

So the wise ones Accept they know nothing and Keep doing their sadhana. 😘

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

What is sought is what's already here . The goal of doing spirituality is not to arrive at a different place from the here & now but to be fully present and content with what is .but you do you. 

For sure. But to fully be here without no bondage, oh, It takes some time to break the chains. Do not understimate the Power of imagination and self-imprisionment.

On the good side, is because is a self imprisionment that the possibility of Liberation is there.

If It was Gods doing, then you could never break out of this. But you have done It. It is an internal job. So the possibility to stop doing It is also there.

So Im just a Guy, that is knocking at the door of your self created prison. Im just a bit outside help. 

Knock knock, can you open?

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

 

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

It might be helpful to add to my post: the reason we are in this existence is to learn to manipulate energy, and hence, matter.

We are here to master this dense matter realm.

We do this through energy, consciousness, love. All the same

[Ishanga]

Reality is what You make of IT!  If You have a dream and it makes You sweat and scared and nightmareish then it was Real in Your Experience, so these words Dream and Imaginary are not the best words to use imo, because they imply not real, but if they bring forth a response in Your Body and Mind, You think about this dream afterwards and it creates Karma, then it a real as a brick falling on Your foot..

So that is why we are Here, to create this Life as we want ( be a God in essence, Creator), most ppl are doing this unconsciously, so the point of being Human is to do everything Consciously, if You did then how would You create this Life?

[JTL]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

There are many ways to describe God/Consciousness, emphasizing some aspects over others. I invent descriptions from many angles, offering you new ways of seeing it, helping you to triangulate it.

 

yeah, I think sufis/muslims have like 100 ways to describe god.

[numbersinarow]

3 hours ago, Loveeee said:

"The definitive answer for what reality is, there's only one word for it, and the word is love."

"Reality is imaginary. That's the ultimate understanding."

Translation 

"If I had to sum up reality in one word, it would be Love"

"If I had to sum up reality in one word, it would be Imagination" 

Brutal. No clue what he thinks he's accomplishing by throwing red herrings.

[Buck Edwards]

2 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Reality is what You make of IT!  If You have a dream and it makes You sweat and scared and nightmareish then it was Real in Your Experience, so these words Dream and Imaginary are not the best words to use imo, because they imply not real, but if they bring forth a response in Your Body and Mind, You think about this dream afterwards and it creates Karma, then it a real as a brick falling on Your foot..

So that is why we are Here, to create this Life as we want ( be a God in essence, Creator), most ppl are doing this unconsciously, so the point of being Human is to do everything Consciously, if You did then how would You create this Life?

You're absolutely right that "dream" and "imaginary" can be misleading. If an experience, even an internal one, has a profound impact on us – causing fear, joy, or any strong emotion – and we engage with it (think about it, react to it), it becomes very real in its consequences. 

Conscious creation is an ongoing journey of self-discovery and growth. It's about aligning your thoughts, emotions, and actions with your deepest desires and values. It's about taking responsibility for your reality and shaping it in a way that brings you fulfillment and joy.

Edited December 30, 2024 by Buck Edwards

[gettoefl]

Consciousness is the dream, the duality, dis doing dat. 

Love can't exist in such an illusive state.

Love is to know the oneness you are, not the twoness you desire to be to make you complete and happy ever after in a dream.

Love is the absolute state; it is unlimited. unconditional, undivided, eternal and ever expanding unstoppably in joyful creative enterprise.