Your Enlightenment Isn’t Higher Than Anything

[ivarmaya]

Your enlightenment isn’t higher than anything. Not Christianity, not the materialist, nor the bum on the street.

The bum on the street is as enlightened as you. The Absolute doesn’t play favorites. It’s not something you achieve or unlock—it’s already everything, exactly as it is.

You think you’ve climbed some ladder, but there is no ladder. No one is closer to it, no one is farther. The Kingdom of God, enlightenment, or whatever you want to call it, is everyone’s, as everyone.

Sure, there are infinite things to explore, but there is nothing to reach, nothing to chase and nothing to be “higher” than.

I’d be glad to hear you prove me wrong.

Merry Christmas.

[Sugarcoat]

Are you directly “conscious” of this or just saying it because it sounds good?

[Hojo]

@Sugarcoat You can only pretend to not see God. You will say holy shit I have been looking at it this whole time and I put myself to sleep.

Edited December 29, 2024 by Hojo

[Sugarcoat]

4 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Sugarcoat You can only pretend to not see God. You will say holy shit I have been looking at it this whole time and I put myself to sleep.

It doesn’t feel like I’m pretending though ? 

[Hojo]

@Sugarcoat It wont until it happens its the craziest thing you can ever imagine. Everything feels super real and then it dosent.

[ivarmaya]

@Sugarcoat I’ve been directly conscious of this for some time, but I’ve wrestled with a dissonance…wondering if I might be missing something. It’s been driving me crazy. This doubt arose because I’ve learned so much from Ralston and deeply respect his teachings, his claim that the absolute isn’t the relative. “He has been doing this for 40 years and I only few? I must be been missing something or deluding myself on this one” Nah… His most recent letter really hammered in the lesson of trusting my own consciousness above all else.

[Sugarcoat]

7 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Sugarcoat It wont until it happens it’s the craziest thing you can ever imagine. Everything feels super real and then it dosent.

Bet 

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, ivarmaya said:

@Sugarcoat I’ve been directly conscious of this for some time, but I’ve wrestled with a dissonance…wondering if I might be missing something. It’s been driving me crazy. This doubt arose because I’ve learned so much from Ralston and deeply respect his teachings, his claim that the absolute isn’t the relative. “He has been doing this for 40 years and I only few? I must be been missing something or deluding myself on this one” Nah… His most recent letter really hammered in the lesson of trusting my own consciousness above all else.

Ok I see👌🏻

[M A J I]

Everyone is Enlightened, not everyone is in Enlightened Awareness.

[James123]

@ivarmaya enlightenment is simply being where you already are. That's it.

[Leo Gura]

No

[Reciprocality]

The bum on the street is you and me

everyone can focus their mind, some tries to focus others mind as well, this is enlightenment and manipulation hand in hand and we all do it continuously

[Nivsch]

But the power is when you are conscious of this and acting it in a mature way when your system is in more and more peace and harmony with itself.

This is the real issue. And no enlightment is identical. Your enlightment doesn't look the same as mine which doesn't look the same as your friend's one etc.

Edited Friday at 05:04 PM by Nivsch

[kray]

@Leo Gura I do agree that you reached high levels of consciousness, but I think you do have a spiritual ego. You fell into the trap that you reached the highest level of consciousness, which is rather arrogant. If consciousness is infinite, then how did you reach the highest knowing? That tells that consciousness is finite….which it is not. Do you mean that you have reached the highest level of consciousness compared to other humans? Please help me understand.

[Leo Gura]

@kray It's not about me. Take me out of the picture. The only important point is that consciousness comes in many degrees. You need to know this regardless of what level of consciousness I have.

I am removing myself from the work. This work and these insights should not depend on me.

Edited Friday at 06:02 PM by Leo Gura

[gengar]

@Leo Gura You mentioned that, in Consciousness, sanity is an island inside insanity. Could you elaborate on this?

• Is there a relationship between the duality of sanity/insanity and the duality of ego/death? The ego is usually described as an insanity instead of a sanity. But is it also a form of sanity to keep itself together and not fall into insanity? Upon physical death, do you think you are released into sanity, or instead plunged into insanity? Sadhguru also mentioned something like this.
• I am having huge spiritual trouble with accepting God as the totality and that all things are good, and reconciling this with the fact that Consciousness is everlasting. It feels too disgusting to be true, yet it is also the only thing that doesn't contradict the thesis that everything is imaginary and thus is totally Good. 

Edited Friday at 06:20 PM by gengar

[r0ckyreed]

Conflating wisdom with foolishness is itself foolish.

[Breakingthewall]

Wrong, it's totally different to be in a state of closeness than openenss, then there are degrees. 

It's possible a total degree, absolutely open. Did I reach it? I don't know, maybe many times, difficult to remember, but if I did was a moment and then the human density catches me again. There are a lot of mental density that closes. Be able to the total surrender of the human is very difficult, some human is always there 

Edited Friday at 09:29 PM by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The only important point is that consciousness comes in many degrees.

Yes and no. There are infinite levels of consciousness of what you are in structure, in depth, but there is a total openess to the substance, to what you are without form, the absence of limits.  

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, gengar said:

@Leo Gura

• Is there a relationship between the duality of sanity/insanity and the duality of ego/death?

Insanity will be much less coherent than sanity so therefore it would be harder for a stable ego to exist there. Like, in your nightly dreams, there's not much ego there because things are too loose for an ego to operate.

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• The ego is usually described as an insanity instead of a sanity. But is it also a form of sanity to keep itself together and not fall into insanity?

This is just incorrect use of words. Almost nobody understands what sanity/insanity are so when people speak of  thing as "insane" they just speaking in colloquial gibberish. They are not talking about actual insanity. Ego is not insanity, ego is sanity. Even the most egotistical person like Trump or Musk is sane.

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• Upon physical death, do you think you are released into sanity, or instead plunged into insanity?

Death is a release from sanity. As I said, sanity is just an island in a larger ocean of consciousness. Death is a release into an infinite ocean. Birth is confinement into sanity. Sanity is like a mental prison.

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• I am having huge spiritual trouble with accepting God as the totality and that all things are good, and reconciling this with the fact that Consciousness is everlasting.

I don't understand the conflict.

Edited Friday at 09:47 PM by Leo Gura