Getting too close too fast?

[NoSelfSelf]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Yea basically you wrote about what the cause is for that indirectness, uncertainty, which is that pedestalization of the woman, putting her above themselves,  feeling unsure of themselves around her, because they are not secure in themselves , so needing advice on forum 

Key is what ones sees ,then one interpits it a certen way then one feels the emotion and that emotion defines the indovidual,so then in front a woman one feels like he cant do anything so act tottaly stupid without knowing why.

Im looking to spread masculine message thanks.

[Sugarcoat]

6 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Key is what ones sees ,then one interpits it a certen way then one feels the emotion and that emotion defines the indovidual,so then in front a woman one feels like he cant do anything so act tottaly stupid without knowing why.

It’s a bit hard to understand what you mean by the emotion defines the individual. Maybe that’s a deeper mechanism that needs to be understood. Like if I would try to give an example, the man sees a woman act a certain way, interprets it as her showing interest, then feels good from it, then defines himself from that emotion? As in his self image temporarily is good from that good emotion, and vice versa with bad emotion 
 

6 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Im looking to spread masculine message thanks.

You’re doing a good job imo . 

Edited December 28, 2024 by Sugarcoat

[NoSelfSelf]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

It’s a bit hard to understand what you mean by the emotion defines the individual. Maybe that’s a deeper mechanism that needs to be understood. Like if I would try to give an example, the man sees a woman act a certain way, interprets it as her showing interest, then feels good from it, then defines himself from that emotion? As in his self image temporarily is good from that good emotion, and vice versa with bad emotion 
 

You’re doing a good job imo . 

Well, defines means that what has happened in situation the individual thinks thats what he is.Yeah if woman does something one interpits it a certen way based on how he feels.

Lets take red pill content or all that women are good for nothing videos.

Individual who has no sense of self will take those videos and based on their experience attach emotions to those videos even though they havent experienced women cheating but they will take it as complete truth based on the feeling.That's how they got them they take the bad experiences and feelings and push it to individuals who can relate to them.

All the threads on here are reactions based on relatable experiences and now those videos push them even further.They wont look at themselves as the problem because of so called proof based on their feelings.

As of now i still cant explain it fully because i dont know it.

I yet dont know the deeper mechanism,because deeper mechanism starts at so called core and im still studying it.

 

[Sugarcoat]

7 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Well, defines means that what has happened in situation the individual thinks thats what he is.Yeah if woman does something one interpits it a certen way based on how he feels.

Lets take red pill content or all that women are good for nothing videos.

Individual who has no sense of self will take those videos and based on their experience attach emotions to those videos even though they havent experienced women cheating but they will take it as complete truth based on the feeling.That's how they got them they take the bad experiences and feelings and push it to individuals who can relate to them.

All the threads on here are reactions based on relatable experiences and now those videos push them even further.They wont look at themselves as the problem because of so called proof based on their feelings.

As of now i still cant explain it fully because i dont know it.

I yet dont know the deeper mechanism,because deeper mechanism starts at so called core and im still studying it.

 

Ok I see so it’s feminine because they are being emotional according to you right? 
 

 

[NoSelfSelf]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Ok I see so it’s feminine because they are being emotional according to you right? 
 

 

Its not according to me, im looking at things how they function.

If one sees a woman and gets all excited, its same as woman seeing a dress and gasps at its sight.

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Its not according to me, im looking at things how they function.

If one sees a woman and gets all excited, its same as woman seeing a dress and gasps at its sight.

Ok I see. I have wondered to myself how male attraction works since some men can just look at a woman and get attracted. I can’t do that for a man. 

[NoSelfSelf]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Ok I see. I have wondered to myself how male attraction works since some men can just look at a woman and get attracted. I can’t do that for a man. 

Well the more immature you are the more attraction for a guy is how "hot" she is.

The more mature you get you are looking at the level of "hotness" matches the act/thinking.

 

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Well the more immature you are the more attraction for a guy is how "hot" she is.

The more mature you get you are looking at the level of "hotness" matches the act/thinking.

 

Agreed

[Schizophonia]

It's not a problem if she didn't want sex for any reason but in the end it's her buttstock that you want, so you should be explicit in future interactions and if it doesn't work out, then go elsewhere. There's no point in getting attached to her for now because she hasn't been of any use to you at the moment.

It's not very feminist lol, but the whole current problem among men in the dating market comes from the mania of considering women as something else than an object of pleasure (in the context of a relationship) like any other.

 

Edited December 28, 2024 by Schizophonia

[Sugarcoat]

8 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

you should be explicit in future interactions

If you read the replies he said he asked her for sex

[Schizophonia]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

If you read the replies he said he asked her for sex

I saw. 

 

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

I saw. 

 

Ok

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Attraction is about looks. Any other explanation found in reality is either false or statistically insignificant

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Attraction is about looks. Any other explanation found in reality is either false or statistically insignificant

No. In my past I’ve crushed on guys that could be considered below average in looks because the vibes were so good and I am not the only woman

Edited December 28, 2024 by Sugarcoat

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

16 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

No. In my past I’ve crushed on guys that could be considered below average in looks because the vibes were so good and I am not the only woman

You are either lying or it's statistically insignificant

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

You are either lying or it's statistically insignificant

😹😹😹

What makes you believe that? 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

4 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

😹😹😹

What makes you believe that? 

Because you are a human, and a woman at that. Coping and lying to yourself and others (as well as ignorance) is important for our pristinely clean sense of self. We like to look at ourselves as these non shallow moral beings

[Sugarcoat]

6 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Because you are a human, and a woman at that. Coping and lying to yourself and others (as well as ignorance) is important for our pristinely clean sense of self. We like to look at ourselves as these non shallow moral beings

You’ve locked yourself into your own paradigm and aren’t even open to hearing counter points and just accusing them of lying. All I’m saying is that a man can be attractive to a woman even if his looks are what is to be considered less attractive than hers because he has an awesome personality 

 

Edited December 28, 2024 by Sugarcoat

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

9 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

You’ve locked yourself into your own paradigm and aren’t even open to hearing counter points and just accusing them of lying. All I’m saying is that a man can be attractive to a woman even if his looks are what is to be considered less attractive than hers because he has an awesome personality 

Yes I am locked into a paradigm of truth. PLEASE SAVE ME!😂

"Personality", whatever that means, is BS and can't replace looks. There are other alternative explanations why a woman would choose a man despite his looks being subpar and there are many of them, but none of them include personality. I won't even get into that cause I don't care. You can't even properly define these terms and all this "masculinity" BS and all of you are just coping endlessly, to try to come up with what it actually means😂 Oooh it's so complicated, we have to write a thousand books and make thousand topics to finally discover that secret formula to attract women, they're all so complicated😂

See, I don't really care to give sermons about what others should do - even if the guy is ugly, I wouldn't tell him to not approach, I wouldn't advise anything to anyone. Cause I don't really care. I mean, the chances are never zero, I am fully aware of that. I just focus on me and my life and I am fully comfortable and cozy with knowing the actual truth. But who knows, maybe if you guys grind your gears enough, you'll discover that mythical divine masculinity and femininity😂

Edited December 28, 2024 by NewKidOnTheBlock

[Sugarcoat]

7 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Yes I am locked into a paradigm of truth. PLEASE SAVE ME!😂

"Personality", whatever that means, is BS and can't replace looks. There are other alternative explanations why a woman would choose a man despite his looks being subpar and there are many of them, but none of them include personality. I won't even get into that cause I don't care. You can't even properly define these terms and all this "masculinity" BS and all of you are just coping endlessly, to try to come up with what it actually means😂 Oooh it's so complicated, we have to write a thousand books and make thousand topics to finally discover that secret formula to attract women, they're all so complicated😂

See, I don't really care to give sermons about what others should do - even if the guy is ugly, I wouldn't tell him to not approach, I wouldn't advise anything to anyone. Cause I don't really care. I mean, the chances are never zero, I am fully aware of that. I just focus on me and my life and I am fully comfortable and cozy with knowing the actual truth. But who knows, maybe if you guys grind your gears enough, you'll discover that mythical divine masculinity and femininity😂

At least you seem kinda happy in your paradigm lock😹😹

I can’t speak for all women ofc as I don’t know all women but for me and women close to me personality can definitely bring the looks up quite a bit. 
 

A woman who would primarily be attracted to guys because of their looks sounds very shallow to me and wouldn’t be someone I’d wanna be with if I was a man anyways. Or because of something like money, that’s even more shallow.

What you call “masculinity” matters too. It is connected to personality, and a little bit looks too. 

 

Edited December 28, 2024 by Sugarcoat