Finished the LP course

[Jannes]

On 22.1.2025 at 6:48 PM, The Renaissance Man said:

 

@Jannes The problem is that you don't know what's possible. I don't mean this in a woo-woo way, but in a really practical way.

That's why I put emphasis on marketing, or in general business skills. It's impossible, and I mean impossible, to even fathom the possibilities from outside.

There's people that have the knowledge to become millionaires in a year if you strip them of everything. (I'm not one of them lol, but I can start to see how that would be possible).

 

For example, imagine person X that is left without a dollar in his bank and zero people in his network. Key thing he still has: the skills to solve the other person's problem in exchange for money.

1. He sets up a LinkedIn profile to look professional and an expert.
2. Posts a bunch and sends people connection requests to gain some credibility.
3. Then he starts contacting his LinkedIn connections pitching a SOLID offer, maybe guaranteeing to work for free if they don't achieve the result. A lot of people would accept something like that. And since he has the SKILLS, he can deliver on the promise.
4. There you go, done. He starts making money.

Even the idea to set up this 3-4 step system stems from marketing/business knowledge. Imagine all the ways and opportunties that he sees and you don't.

 

Marketing is not a career path. Marketing is how you make money from your skills. Here's the problem:

1. You have a life purpose
2. Therefore, you invest a lot of time in it, and you become a master, as Leo suggests
3. If you're a master, it means you have valuable knowledge that's hard to earn. You've earned it in the process to mastery.
4. If it's valuable, someone's willing to pay for it, or a form of it.
5. Problem: nobody knows you're a master.
6. Real Problem: you don't know how to solve the problem above.

And there can be more problems, maybe you don't even know how to package your mastery so that somebody could want it, and you could live off of it. Business knowledge is the solution. Leo gave you the roadmap to point 3 with his course. But I suggest you don't wait until you're a master to learn how to make money from your valuable skills.

View it this way: there is a way to work on your creative endeavors full time. But you lack the knowledge to even consider how that could be possible. That's what I'm pointing at, that's what I called marketing. Imagine if you had that clarity to know, oh, if I do this, get there, then do that, then today do this for x hours, I'll get that almost mathematically. Imagine how motivated you'd be.

 

This was just to illustrate my point by the way. I haven't made it yet, but I'm very close to it, so maybe I'll come back to you in 6-12 months with more confidence lol.

I do have real painful experience with being a master at something and have nobody care or realize.

I also do have the experience of the wild motivation you get when you can draw a clear line between your current situation and the life purpose lifestyle.

So I kind of am speaking from experience, not yet the full spectrum though.

I am not a master at anything yet. I am still at the stage where I dont even really know what I want to pursue. At the moment the closest thing is writing theatre plays and acting where I have some experience in. 

The other thing is that I dont know if I even want to work on my LP full time. I need time to get some inspiration and some kind of grounding routine in work could be very beneficial. I dont think I could manage working on creative pursuits all day. For my mental health I actually cling to some kind of (loose) structures. 

What you share is all valueable though. I guess even if what I have atm is just an offshoot, seeing that I could potentially make a living of that might be manure to growth.

You said you didnt make it yet. Maybe you want to share your journey so far though. 

[Jannes]

Teaching can be very tough... I won't lengthen the contract that I have atm. Even if I just teach for one hour a day it's very mentally taxing. I go to my limits every time trying to control the class (which is out of control). The situation is that I am not yet grounded and confident in myself and relatively inexperienced so when I grow as a person over the years this will all become a lot easier. But if it doesnt become a lot easier then this is not a good option for me. Sure I can work relatively few hours and still make decent money off that and it seems okay as a job but if it is so mentally taxing that I need to recover after a few hours of teaching then I won't be able to use my free time effectively either. 

I emanate a lot of calmness naturally. It's one of the first things people notice about me. I can put people to peace just by being around them.

I think a lot about working in counseling right now. I always thought about studying psychology. But I dont have the grades to study it and on closer inspection it seems relatively dry, so much statistics and not enough juiciness. I like to learn about my mind through contemplation, psychedelics and stuff. Thats a juicy understanding. But you cant work of that, or at least there is no clear path. And I dont think I could do another studies. I learned that I am not cut for studying, or that I haven't found the right support to do it well.

[Jannes]

I put way to much hope on this picture I found on the internet as a guide but it does fit me very well. 

[The Renaissance Man]

@Jannes There are ways of making money that are not stressful. You can look for those proactively if you need to, while you grow and explore life.

A remote job, an office job, etc. 

I get how even one hour a day can be taxing. Most haven't experienced it, but I have renounced good money in the past for stress reasons.

 

The INFP picture is great if it serves as inspiration, but don't box yourself to that alone. Don't label yourself. Those categories are always rough trends. You make the rules. There are no rules.

I always feel a great weight is taken off my shoulders when I remember this.

[Jannes]

4 hours ago, The Renaissance Man said:

The INFP picture is great if it serves as inspiration, but don't box yourself to that alone. Don't label yourself. Those categories are always rough trends. You make the rules. There are no rules.

I always feel a great weight is taken off my shoulders when I remember this.

For me it's the opposite. To many options stress me out, I need some basic structure. 

[Jannes]

I had a talk with the adhd group yesterday and it was very productive as I asked what kind of careers the other people had and how they feel their adhd contributes to that.
It isnt as easy but there are some niches where you can excel in because of adhd. As a basic a certain structure seems to be important for adhd people, creativity and not sensory overload. As a teacher I get structure, creativity but sometimes sensory overload. As I grow more as a teacher I might not get a sensory overload anymore. Its difficult to predict, I cant tell how much I will still grow and how it will be then exactly but I predict that it will become notably easier. Today it wasn't as tough, I am a bit more hopeful.
Ergotheraphy is also an option. A person said that it is the perfect job for adhd people. But it doesn't pay well. I am interested in finding something I can do part time to focus on other projects. The head of the adhd group was there and she talked about working in counseling business creators. She has a special super creative method for that. She said she thinks I could work in that field especially with my studies as a teacher. So that could be an option as well. 
The plan is to find a job that gives me structure. That isnt just good for money but it grounds me. Then I am more happy to create whatever I want in my free time. 

I still playing with the thought of becoming an actor though even though it doesn't seem like a rationally good decision. Sometimes as an actor you get in touch with very profound pieces of consciousness. It's hard to explain, you need some experience to relate but basically you refine and refine your role more and more. And you always search for something that feels solid and sometimes you touch something deep which you then manifest in the expression in your role. And I deeply value excellence. When I dont study to become an actor I will never touch certain gems. Even though I can find gems elsewhere which I couldnt find if I do acting, it's hard to turn your back to that. When I see friends being in acting schools...
But right now I am not emotionally stable enough to do acting and I dont think it would make me super happy but maybe it would. And when I see other friends being in acting schools now... 

What was almost more important though is that I dont feel weird around other people with adhd. I noticed that people with adhd put a ton of attention and expression to little signs of body language. It's a whole different way of communication. Because of the confusion I made with my different way of communicating I felt so weird. I put a lot of force into acting more normal. Now I see more that it might be okay to just be a little different.

[Jannes]

Had my weekly adhd self help group session today. People sometimes have exactly the same body language there as me. I felt so incorporated on a rarely reached deep level. I felt a lot of interesting emotions because of it today. At the end of the session I felt so comfortable and calm I became very conscious and felt like I had superpowers. Parts of my brain suddenly activated. I could articulate myself a lot better. I activated a hyper focus where I could imagine anime scenes, the moment of contact between two blades and so forth... I thought about theatre plays. I wanted to do acting scenes with complex exploding emotions.

The other person who mirrored my adhd body language and in a way put my at ease with it got me to an idea. Maybe thats what I need as a meditation technique. A way to completely exhaust my adhd brain to put it at ease. 

Edited February 5 by Jannes

[Delusion Slayer]

I'm going to respond to the general energy of this post rather than the intricate details you've laid out.

The Life Purpose Course was a 10/10 experience for me. I was at a crossroads between two paths, one safe and one more uncharted and unique to me (later realizing it's because the uncharted path was OF COURSE my life purpose!). I took it, and with exercise after exercise it was stunningly, 100% clear to me what I wanted to do. Leo does a fantastic job excavating your subconscious to bring alive what your #1 path is.

THAT SAID, if there is this feeling that there is still that "missing piece", or you need "just a few more exercises" to figure out what to do, chances are you are over-analzying and more importantly: you are stalling making the endgame decision...

In order to know your life purpose, there will come a moment when you must decide once and for all, "this" is the path you are taking.

You can do exercise after exercise, and the course WILL do more to give you all the raw data you really need to make your decision, but it will not make that ultimate decision for you. YOU must make the choice!

You don't even need to have everything figured out already. What matters more as you near the end / complete the course in its entirety is that embrace the unknown and begin to take action. Follow your intuition, make small bets, and everything included in the "Making It Real" latter section of the course. You will learn as you take action, fail, and iterate.

If at this point you've completed the ENTIRE course with FULL dedication and you still are unsure of your path, I really don't know what you tell you man. The course does everything to put things in front of you. You are either not putting your best effort into the course or you are just stuck in your head, or both. Don't overthink this stuff, and stop asking forums and outsourcing the most important choice in your life to other people. This is YOUR life purpose. Not ours.

[Jannes]

25:13 - 32:00

Somehow I never watched this video. Thats an important piece of the puzzle. Well it's kind of what I intuited about art as well. I want to see and help others see beauty in shitty things. That kind of seems like meaningful pursuit in life. I just dont know to which degree I gravitate towards it because I need it to heal myself. So if I healed maybe I wouldnt see it as that meaningful anymore. 

On 31.12.2024 at 9:39 PM, Jannes said:

A refined articulation: Finding existential beauty in fucked up situations to heal peoples traumas.

Edited February 5 by Jannes

[Jannes]

@Delusion Slayer I didnt expect other people to tell me my LP but it can be very helpful to hear from other perspectives for motivation and tipps. 

Consider that I have mental health problems that you dont understand. I was/ am out of touch with my authentic self for at least a decade and for years in a state of constant unease. I came as close to my LP as was possible. 

12 hours ago, Delusion Slayer said:

In order to know your life purpose, there will come a moment when you must decide once and for all, "this" is the path you are taking.

...

You don't even need to have everything figured out already.

lol...

12 hours ago, Delusion Slayer said:

What matters more as you near the end / complete the course in its entirety is that embrace the unknown and begin to take action. Follow your intuition, make small bets, and everything included in the "Making It Real" latter section of the course. You will learn as you take action, fail, and iterate.

If you read my thread so far, I am making small bets. I was already doing acting, I work in a school 5 hours a week to see how I like it as a teacher, I am writing small theatre plays, on my self actualization journey I sometimes post art, I have made an audition for an acting school and there are a couple of other projects that I will follow as well. 

But I am also practical. I have to balance my pursuits with survival and an adhd mind which craves certain foundations to be healthy. 

[Jannes]

@Mods This can be put into self actualization journeys, although comments are always welcomed. 

[Jannes]

Had my weekly ADHD self help group session today. I learn something new every time. Apparently keto diet can help with adhd symptoms, I might try that out.

What's very interesting is that although people with adhd have very similar symptoms oftentimes it doesnt make them similar people at all. Some are more, some are less intelligent. Some have interests there and others there. For example many people with adhd struggle with attention span, especially if the task at hand isnt interesting so most adhd people would struggle with hard science for example. But if a person with adhd is interested in that, that person can get a hyper focus on this subject and competly nail it. I can develop a hyper focus. When I was a teenager I sometimes pissed myself when playing video games because I had such a hyper focus at the task at hand my system didnt have enough resources to even maintain basic bodily functions. I always thought that what kept me from achieving much wasn't my lack of intelligence or talent but interest. If I would just find the one thing I am very passionate about I would be great at it. Thats very likely the case. What is that though wtf!?

It's in the direction of selflessness, great character, creativity, understanding .. it's not something easily tangible. 

[Jannes]

The last few days I wasn't very productive. I have holidays (from school) but exams phase so I really should get shit now but I didnt. I need social support for emotion regulation and hopefully body doubles for studying. I tried getting shit done on my own for years with no success with few phases of working with other people where magic happened when I finally got something done. But finding the right people is difficult for me, there is basically no one I know that I would like to have that close to me. It's a pretty difficult situation. 

[Jannes]

Holidays are over so I had to teach my 5 graders math today again. I got some kind of assistent for Tuesday, I am not sure what her job is but she assists in all kind of classes it seems. It was a lot quieter today with her and a lot less stressful. She didnt do anything just her presence did that. I could really see myself working in such an environment. Its really not that stressful and I wouldnt even need to work full time, get lots of holidays and the work is okay fun. A very solid base to pursue my LP from. I am good at actually teaching yet though. Well I am at the beginning of my studies anyway. 

The thought of acting always comes up though. Actors seem to be freed in some regard which I love.. Open stage, performance acting also seems super cool. I just value excellence a lot so it's hard to pass acting studies. 

I also had my weekly adhd self help group session today. I regularly experience in this session typical adhd interpersonal behavior which is quite complicated but to keep my thoughts short it might result from an ability to be easily distracted and the ability to hyper focus (for small seconds) on certain body language things like the length of eye contact because that is perceived as important. (I actually found a few people with adhd with eye contact alone. Just that you sometimes hold eye contact just a little longer gives it away.) A person in this group especially mirrors my own behavior quite well and I seem to heal from that as I finally find understanding. I tried with so much force to behave more normally in the past with little success. My adhd behavior unintentionally created a lot of problems and I put so much blame on myself. Now I feel like it is okay, I am okay, I am not at fault. I found love for a version of myself from 3 years ago which wasn't so damaged. 

This personal emotional drama is all connected to LP. If you get personal problems solved you are freed up for LP stuff. If my emotional problems were all solved the LP course would have likely be way more fruitful for me - so I have no problem talking about these issues here.

[Jannes]

I had my (first) audition for an acting school today. It was really bad. First I only saw that I had the audition today because of a notification a few days ago so I didn’t prepare my roles properly and had to settle for one mediocre role which I took because I knew the text already and a complete new role I had to learn because I didn’t have anything studied from Shakespeare but that was a requirement. So yesterday I tried to learn pretty much the whole afternoon but couldn’t because I couldn’t handle my emotions until night. Then I studied through most of the night and still didn’t learn the whole text. Then had a four hour train ride the next morning which I used to learn text for like two hours and finally realized before the end being super super tired and my brain bearly working anymore that I won’t be able to learn the role in time. But I heard that they sometimes don’t want to see all four plays so I was hopeful I could get away with it - but what a waste of energies.
The market seems pretty compedetive, many of the people there knew each other and had coaches. I liked the environment when we warmed up I even felt like I was one of the most opened up people there.
So when I finally played my roles it was rather short. I started with my self wrote monolog which I was pretty proud of but it got stopped 1/3 in its track which was frustrating. Then I did another monolog which lasted like 1min and then they told me depending on the other candidates they might ask me to play one more role. I didn’t know if I was that good or that bad but I prepared for my last role which I ended up didn’t play anymore. They quickly evaluated the situation, one of our group of 4 got in the second round the rest didn’t. (You gotta pass round 1, 2 and 3 and then you are accepted) That was a little sad. The worst part was that we didn’t get feedback. But that’s often the deal with acting schools when they get to many applicants), some are nicer but you don’t get much of a present, you have to fight for that attention. Luckily a girl in first semester who guided us gave us a little feedback that we were a little stiff, not like crazy enough and pointed out that we didnt use our body enough. She said it doesnt even really matter that much what you say what’s important is that you speak with your body. That was her perspective but at least usable advice.

I don’t feel good about myself afterwards and it didnt help that I was sleep deprived. I also didn’t attend to other acting schools just this one. So when I attend to the acting schools now it will take months until I finally have an audition. Little mad at myself for that. I also feel a little incapable. It’s not expected to just get a place first time but there is always this thought that you might get beginner luck or something and maybe a partial accomplishment would have been great. I am not really successful in other aspects of life either - I really fundamentally questioned myself there. So that seems to go deeper than I think.

Still dont know what I really like about acting. Maybe I love everything about it but get burned out easily as well. It's emotionally very taxing as well and hard on socializing but there is no limit in your creative expression. 
I dont know if it's acting per se that I love but the creative expression it allows.

For improvements in the next auditions: 
I need to open up more. It was okay but I know there is way more potential in me. People have always told me that my real self is hidden away. I don’t really notice that myself but it could be. And because I am not that emotionally stable it's hard to do heavy acting roles.

What I found interesting - When you don’t live a life with high demands you can hide problems from yourself. But right here it’s unavoidable I have emotional blockades which make acting up to a certain level impossible. But I want to do acting well so I have to find ways to get better.