Approaching Women Is A Waste of Time

[r0ckyreed]

I had an insight from noticing myself detaching from women, love, sex, etc. The insight for me is that approaching women is a waste of time. Sure, you can develop social skills and confidence. And I would recommend you to work through that fear of approaching and transcend social anxiety. Socialization is an important skill. But I am starting to understand Leo’s episode on How Socialization Makes You Stupid.

What are we doing here? We are ultimately chasing pussy, women, relationships. It is so lame that I put it like this. I realize that for myself that there are more important things in life to pursue than getting laid, seeking approval, and talking to women. It is another matrix that I am being played at. Women mostly expect men to make the first move at everything. But I realize that the kind of woman I would ever be attracted to is one who wouldn’t be playing these games and would have the confidence to see me as too hot to pass up.

I have found so much freedom being single. I was struggling with a breakup of a first long-term relationship. But now I can say that I feel grateful that it ended. I mean the intimacy/sex was great, but I knew deep down that I would lose my freedom. I was about to tie myself down physically, emotionally, sexually, and spiritually to a woman I was with for 9 months. To be with a woman or any relationship is sacrificing something. 

I am grateful that I didn’t get too far into pickup. I am fine being a virgin. There’s far less drama and so much more freedom in being a single, virgin male. I feel like being single is basically like having sex with life itself. I get to do whatever I want. I get to flirt with whoever I want. When I am with a partner, there’s so much constraints being placed on my mind.

I think people underestimate the constraints that are placed on their minds as a result of being in a relationship. You always have to filter everything through you and the other person. Romantic relationships are overrated. Sex is overrated. Fulfillment and happiness comes from the satisfaction and freedom of being single.

Anyways, I could write a book on this. (I kinda already did ). But my main insight is that this dating section is a complete waste of time. Sorry to hurt anyone’s feelings. But I realized that I am putting so much unnecessary suffering and giving away so much of my power away to women/sex/relationships, which is all out of my control. It’s a waste of time to go out of your own way to approach women and try to play these games to get them naked. It’s just inauthentic. Of course, if I ever did get into a relationship, then it will happen organically and will not be something that I will torture myself with for not having.

Edited yesterday at 02:47 AM by r0ckyreed

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

one who wouldn’t be playing these games and would have the confidence to see me as too hot to pass up.

That's not gonna fly. Don't kid yourself.

Edited yesterday at 02:51 AM by Leo Gura

[Buck Edwards]

Imagine if a woman said this entire post. There would be an uproar from the forum men. 

How disrespectful. 

 

Edited yesterday at 02:53 AM by Buck Edwards

[r0ckyreed]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's not gonna fly. Don't kid yourself.

It’s happened before. I was performing magic tricks, and a woman literally came up to me and said she wanted to put her tongue in my mouth if I guessed her card right. She was hot and I let her. First girl I kissed.

Also, I got into my first long-term relationship from the girl DMing me first.

I’ve had some girls hit on me when I was waiting tables. One of them told me I was making her pants wet. It has happened. It doesn’t happen very often. But I’ve had quite a few women approach me or at least initiate interest.

But yeah. You’re right. She will still be playing games with me.

Edited yesterday at 03:02 AM by r0ckyreed

[r0ckyreed]

8 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

Imagine if a woman said this entire post. There would be an uproar from the forum men. 

How disrespectful. 

 

Women don’t do pickup. If a woman said this post, I would applaud her. So much pressure for women anyways to be in a relationship and bear kids.

[Tenebroso]

I agree. The most positive experiences I have had with women, have come when they have showed initiative and active interest. Even then, the juice is not worth the squeeze. Always feels like your one word or step from doing something wrong but you get no communication from supposedly the better communicators.

[Princess Arabia]

You will change your mind in the months or years to come. This is just your way of coping with the frustrations you have with the dating scene. You're venting right now with this post and trying to tell yourself you don't want something when deep down you do. If you didn't, you wouldn't have made this post. It would have just been another day in the park without even a discussion about it. 

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, r0ckyreed said:

Women mostly expect men to make the first move at everything. But I realize that the kind of woman I would ever be attracted to is one who wouldn’t be playing these games and would have the confidence to see me as too hot to pass up.

This is so feminine. Women think this way, not men. Men, especially masculine men, don't mind making the first move especially in the initial stages. They don't go around thinking they want women to hit on them because they're too hot to pass up. That's not the masculine role. It doesn't have to be a strict role, per se, but it's just not how men usually want to be seen who are masculine. They want to be seen as someone who she would want to be with, but not for his looks but for the way he treats her, how she feels in his presence. Women are not supposed to be chasing men, it's just not how it works. A woman can allow for the space to make a man knows she's interested, but after that, it's a manly thing to pick up on that and to take it to the next level.

These aren't games women play, it's just how we're wired with the exception of a few.

Edited yesterday at 04:13 AM by Princess Arabia

[TheEnigma]

13 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You will change your mind in the months or years to come. This is just your way of coping with the frustrations you have with the dating scene. You're venting right now with this post and trying to tell yourself you don't want something when deep down you do. If you didn't, you wouldn't have made this post. It would have just been another day in the park without even a discussion about it. 

But how can you sense he's just coping? Well lets be fair, he's entitled to feel how he does. We can't sure he's just coping or will change his mind.

[Princess Arabia]

28 minutes ago, TheEnigma said:

But how can you sense he's just coping? Well lets be fair, he's entitled to feel how he does. We can't sure he's just coping or will change his mind.

Because of previous posts. It's not the first time he's posted in regards to this topic. I just put two and two together. He will change his mind, guaranteed. He's going through a phase. It's obvious.

[TheEnigma]

16 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Because of previous posts. It's not the first time he's posted in regards to this topic. I just put two and two together. He will change his mind, guaranteed. He's going through a phase. It's obvious.

Ahhh no wonder. Thanks for clarifying. I checked out his posts now

[Buck Edwards]

2 hours ago, r0ckyreed said:

Women don’t do pickup. If a woman said this post, I would applaud her. So much pressure for women anyways to be in a relationship and bear kids.

Maybe you're looking for a way to vent your frustration. Be open to the idea that you might find your ideal partner some day. Women get rejected too. In the meantime focus on what makes you happy, whatever it may be. 

[PenguinPablo]

Bro please stop coping.  Based on what you said, there's plenty of evidence  that you're already a very attractive young guy by the way strangers hit on you.

Keep working on your game and eventually it'll be automatic and fun.  Otherwise you're not operating near your full potential 

Tldr git gud kid

Edited yesterday at 07:43 AM by PenguinPablo

[AION]

Sounds to me like spiritual bypassing and a whole lot of gibberish. You can’t transcend biology and its needs like this. You have to go through the pyramid of Maslow 

[NoSelfSelf]

Its waste of time when you make game about women ofcourse ,that's how it is.When you make game about yourself ,then all this possibilities of growth shows, you are closed off right now because you dont love yourself,you love pussy more than yourself.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

@Princess Arabia You are wrong. If a man is good looking enough there's a lot of women who will approach him or at least show him very significant choosing signals. Or if they want to use him for status or money. Either way, whether it's natural or unnatural way, this disproves your claims completely

[NoSelfSelf]

5 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

@Princess Arabia You are wrong. If a man is good looking enough there's a lot of women who will approach him or at least show him very significant choosing signals. Or if they want to use him for status or money. Either way, whether it's natural or unnatural way, this disproves your claims completely

So you think you are ugly that's a shame,also even if she approaches you the way you handle the situation its whats most important.Doesnt matter how good looking you are, if you dont know what to do then nothing happens.

If women throws at you you wouldnt know what to do.You will  be busy checking out other guys worrying if somebody betterlooking will come which then begs a queastion do you like guys or women more?

 

Ps:im not being mean its 100% reality of whats going on..

Edited yesterday at 09:18 AM by NoSelfSelf

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

9 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

So you think you are ugly that's a shame,also even if she approaches you the way you handle the situation its whats most important.Doesnt matter how good looking you are, if you dont know what to do then nothing happens.

If women throws at you you wouldnt know what to do.You will  be busy checking out other guys worrying if somebody betterlooking will come which then begs a queastion do you like guys or women more?

 

Ps:im not being mean its 100% reality of whats going on..

There's no way to really "not handle" the situation if she throws herself at you. The so called "game" (the verbal part) basically just boils down to one thing - to act on your instincts instead of the societal conditioning which enslaved you. So basically to not act as a slave. Just keep escalating basically. You'll naturally want her in that situation and so you'd naturally act according to your insticts, therefore the only thing that can stop you in that situation, is you. That's the so called "game". Pretty much. Ofc some women will get horny from the escalation process alone ("masculinity"), but ussually you'd need to pass her looks threshold.

As for me being gay, well... my dick would definitely dissagree with you

[NoSelfSelf]

18 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

There's no way to really "not handle" the situation if she throws herself at you. The so called "game" (the verbal part) basically just boils down to one thing - to act on your instincts instead of the societal conditioning which enslaved you. So basically to not act as a slave. Just keep escalating basically. You'll naturally want her in that situation and so you'd naturally act according to your insticts, therefore the only thing that can stop you in that situation, is you. That's the so called "game". Pretty much. Ofc some women will get horny from the escalation process alone ("masculinity"), but ussually you'd need to pass her looks threshold.

As for me being gay, well... my dick would definitely dissagree with you

But your so called insticts are not there ,because you are actually a slave to a blackpill ideology,so you will mess up your "escalation"...game is so much deeper but yeah its only you stopping you ,same as believing that your looks is so important before you even open your mouth.But since you stand on your looks the way you talk will come from im not good looking.

I can also say that "good" looks is actually a bad thing, so many times women will mask their attraction because she doesnt want to show her initial attraction, because she will defend it hard.Also she will act scared in a way, its like acting like shes tottaly not interested but she is.

Also her personality will not be there because she doesnt wanna "mess up".

 

Also when you look good she expects you to have great game right of the bat, because you are good looking so you must have good game immidietly(same logic as you) if you come of a little not so confident, she will see it as more of a weakness than "non attractive guy".While if you come of smooth it will hit harder because you are "not suppose" to be this confident with your words since you are short or whatever.

[r0ckyreed]

7 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

You will change your mind in the months or years to come. This is just your way of coping with the frustrations you have with the dating scene. You're venting right now with this post and trying to tell yourself you don't want something when deep down you do. If you didn't, you wouldn't have made this post. It would have just been another day in the park without even a discussion about it. 

Not necessarily. I have always been content with being single. It was only after my first longterm relationship that I started using this subforum. Heartbreak does that to you. But I feel like my life is better off without all that drama. I used to be frustrated with the dating scene, but I realized that it’s a waste of time. At this point, I don’t put any effort into women. I still am on the dating apps, and there’s some dates I will be going on. But I am much more detached. I’m not chasing anymore, I am attracting. I made this post because I wanted to articulate how I feel at this stage. It’s kinda like my motivation to journal. Almost half of all marriages end in divorce and maybe another 25% are unfulfilled marriages. I am only gonna play games I can win. When I am chasing women, I am losing the game with myself. I am still gonna go out, party, flirt, and all that. I’m not gonna limit myself. But I find a lot of freedom in being single. But you can interpret it how you want.