Female Abuse Example

[lostingenosmaze]

10 hours ago, integral said:

https://x.com/PicturesFoIder/status/1871382885309075581

Damn Billie Eilish really fell off, huh?

[nhoktinvt]

1 hour ago, lostingenosmaze said:

Damn Billie Eilish really fell off, huh?

i remember i had a dream about Billie Eilish and ppl voted her on X about something and she has the most vote, no idea what it means perhaps the best female artist ?

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Sounds like they are both in need of some help

[integral]

31 minutes ago, Myagooshki said:

I don't know anything about this situation. Does anybody know anything about the situation? Apparently she was going to be sick and they were going to miss their flight? It doesn't seem to me like she's a charismatic bone shaker. She's having a major panic attack there. I don't feel like she's the one with the "emotional upper hand" here or whatever, and I don't necessarily feel for the guy. There's also the way that she talks to the guy filming, that makes me more annoyed. 

My man, she is screaming of how much of a loser he is and blaming him for all of her problems. This is basic abuse 101. At no point should you be in a situation where you’re unsure if this kind of behaviour is normal or not. It doesn’t matter what he had has done or not done at no point is someone screaming to you like a lunatic that you’re a loser.

It’s possible he robbed her of $1 million and cheated on her five times the night before. lol in that scenario, maybe we could justify her behaviour to some degree. Even then her behaviour is abnormal and beyond just what a normal woman would do or say in that situation..

Edited December 26, 2024 by integral

[Human Mint]

12 hours ago, integral said:

It’s possible he robbed her of $1 million and cheated on her five times the night before. lol in that scenario, maybe we could justify her behaviour to some degree. Even then her behaviour is abnormal and beyond just what a normal woman would do or say in that situation..

She wouldn't have the energy to yell in that case lol. This seems more like an upbringing problem to me.

[trenton]

The distinction between physical and emotional abuse isn't that clear. For example, punching me in the face could cause me to fear you thus abusing both physically and emotionally. It is a manipulation and control tactic.

In some cases emotional abuse can manifest as physical symptoms. For example after being repeatedly abused verbally and emotionally, it could create a situation where you are bottling up your emotions seems like the safest option. This can lead to muscle tightness, muscle spasms, and physical pain. There can also be various chemical reactions in your brain and body due to the fear and anger created. This is why I heard a psychologist argue that emotional violence in a sense is indirect physical violence. I'll let you decide if you agree or not.

In my case emotional abuse has complicated my medical treatment. I was prescribed an anti psychotic because I was ruminating on my family situation which made me want to kill myself along with antidepressants which consistently made me feel worse. The medication damaged my liver and didn't solve the problem anyway. I came to realize that the systems around medicine and therapy had failed me by giving me medicine that worsened my condition while therapists treated me as if my lack of coping skills was the problem. I was treated as if there was something wrong with me even though most of attachments were developed as a survival strategy for a challenging situation I was forced to endure. With the threat of continued abuse, no amount books, spirituality, personal development, pills, and coping skills would be enough to give me peace of mind. The answer is for me to get away from the people who refuse to change like my mother and sister. Suicide could be a trauma response to various forms of abuse.

My suicidal thoughts stopped when I learned My sister was moving out and I wouldn't have to live with her anymore. The threat of continuing to live with her impacted my decision to commute to college because I would be stuck in the same situation for 6 years of be forced to make an enormous financial sacrifice by living on campus or by spending my life savings on a down payment. Maybe I was spending all this time trying to fix myself, but I wasn't the problem. I also don't like the therapists who sent me back to live with these people due to my history of suicidal thoughts assuming my family would be helpful.

[M A J I]

Its an unfortunate way society sees things. Often males would be faulted for abusive relationships when it always takes two to tango.

For example, females can be extremely mentally and emotionally abusive, sharp tongues, toxic behavior, using their womanhood as an excuse to defend themselves against angry men knowing most men won't bite or hit back, even when women get physical, men will try to avoid it.

Eventually the anger builds up enough the male, often not being as mentally and emotionally sharp, uses his own strengths which are more physical in nature, and a slap or a push or pull of hair would be the reaction, and this short-burst of physical abuse is probably nowhere near the trauma from the mental and emotional abuse the female applied for weeks, months or even years, yet it is the reactionary result of the build-up of abuse coming out in a physical way, and then 9/10 times the male will get in trouble and could even serve some jail time, when its not entirely his fault.

I would often deal with this at school, girls would poke at me daily and bully me with words and even worse, eventually I would get angry and scream or push them, I even threw a bin at one girl, then all of a sudden there is a shock in the whole classroom, you can't hit a girl!, you cant do this, you cant do that, yet I did and I didn't really care, felt totally worth it and satisfying after the abuse they put me through, and they often never bothered me after that, but again I got in trouble, not them at all.

Then sometimes the boys would challenge me to a fight, not understanding my situation at all.

Sometimes this is also reversed, sometimes males can be mentally and emotionally abusive too, however more often then not its an unfair system.

Edited December 27, 2024 by M A J I

[integral]

@M A J I kids in school have mob mentality. They mostly grow out of it past high school. I’ve also had experiences of the entire school, rallying against me for some random thing that they thought I did, No one bother to have any scepticism to look into what actually happened, a rumour spreads and that’s it. Everyone tries to punch you in the face in the name of “ justice”.

This is why they invented the justice system. Where you’re innocent until proven guilty, an ingenious technology. And this is why it’s important to follow healthy procedures when bullied by reporting to higher officials.

It avoids mob witch hunts.

Edited January 30 by integral

[Emerald]

There was a video I watched some years ago where a woman was verbally abusing a man, and people were laughing at him like "Haha. You're letting a woman dominate and berate you."

That's really how toxic gender roles and expectations are, where people will see a man being abused and think he's the laughable one for having a woman dominating him... as opposed to realizing that he's a victim of the situation.

But in this video, it does seem like the couple people who are laughing are laughing at her and not him. She's acting like a totally unhinged crazy person.

But I do think people would intervene if it were a man having that kind of crazy unhinged rage response.

I suspect that her antics aren't viewed as dangerous because she is female and won't be able to create serious physical harm to the people around here. So, her rage is viewed more as futile craziness that's stressful but harmless to the other people at the airport. 

But if a man were screaming like that, people in the airport would feel more threatened because of the greater level of physical strength. And people would probably cater to a female partner's vulnerability.

So, there are a lot of double standards where men are expected to be the strong ones who can handle it. But this leads to a situation where female to male abuse in relationships gets overlooked... even by the victim.

Like I have a close friend who was in a very abusive relationships before I met him. And while he recognizes that a guy would be terrible to treat a woman the way his ex treated him, he still has a tendency to think it's differently despite holding a lot of Feminist and gender equality attitudes otherwise.

I've also worked with a male client who didn't realize he was in a very abusive relationship because he was taking all the responsibility for everything she was doing.

So, it's a real problem where people overlook male vulnerabilities and think "they can handle it" as their partner abuses them.

[integral]

@Emerald that’s a great point, I found myself in this kind of situation in one of my previous relationships, and later in a new relationship, I set better boundaries, but in the end, it was impossible to keep those boundaries because the girlfriend was never healthy enough to respect them to begin with.

I think a lot of people finding themselves in abusive relationship relationships don’t really have a way out of it other than ending it because the abuser is incapable of a healthy relationship to begin with no matter how much couples counselling they do.

Many can’t grow while in the relationship because they’re stuck in a toxic frame with their partner. So they need a break up to refresh and reset. 

[gambler]

17 hours ago, Emerald said:

There was a video I watched some years ago where a woman was verbally abusing a man, and people were laughing at him like "Haha. You're letting a woman dominate and berate you."

That's really how toxic gender roles and expectations are, where people will see a man being abused and think he's the laughable one for having a woman dominating him... as opposed to realizing that he's a victim of the situation.

But in this video, it does seem like the couple people who are laughing are laughing at her and not him. She's acting like a totally unhinged crazy person.

But I do think people would intervene if it were a man having that kind of crazy unhinged rage response.

I suspect that her antics aren't viewed as dangerous because she is female and won't be able to create serious physical harm to the people around here. So, her rage is viewed more as futile craziness that's stressful but harmless to the other people at the airport. 

But if a man were screaming like that, people in the airport would feel more threatened because of the greater level of physical strength. And people would probably cater to a female partner's vulnerability.

So, there are a lot of double standards where men are expected to be the strong ones who can handle it. But this leads to a situation where female to male abuse in relationships gets overlooked... even by the victim.

Like I have a close friend who was in a very abusive relationships before I met him. And while he recognizes that a guy would be terrible to treat a woman the way his ex treated him, he still has a tendency to think it's differently despite holding a lot of Feminist and gender equality attitudes otherwise.

I've also worked with a male client who didn't realize he was in a very abusive relationship because he was taking all the responsibility for everything she was doing.

So, it's a real problem where people overlook male vulnerabilities and think "they can handle it" as their partner abuses them.

Well said. Internalizing this idea that a woman can't abuse a man emotionally amounts to lying to yourself. A person's unwillingness to recognize it as such will have his realization when she behaves in that poisonous way towards his kids. Another point I wanted to add is that it's ironic that a man with feminist and gender equality attitudes think its different when a woman does it. I feel like this infantilizes the opposite gender. It implies a man should view a woman's abuse the same way he would if a child hurled the same venom at him.

[Emerald]

4 hours ago, gambler said:

Well said. Internalizing this idea that a woman can't abuse a man emotionally amounts to lying to yourself. A person's unwillingness to recognize it as such will have his realization when she behaves in that poisonous way towards his kids. Another point I wanted to add is that it's ironic that a man with feminist and gender equality attitudes think its different when a woman does it. I feel like this infantilizes the opposite gender. It implies a man should view a woman's abuse the same way he would if a child hurled the same venom at him.

I've told him that. It caused him to pause a bit and think about it... as within that tendency, there is an assumption that men are inherently emotionally stronger and more resilient and that women are inherently powerless in relation to men.

He gets it in the abstract, but would often tend to default to the assumption of "man = bad aggressor" and "woman = good victim" with himself and others. And his tendency would be to always sympathize with the woman, even if she's in the wrong.

He reminds me of me when I was a kid and going through my "not like the other girls" phase where I was always assuming that everyone thought girls/women were cruel and vapid... and that I was always trying to be an exception to the rule.

In recent years, he's been a lot more even-handed... in part because of our friendship.

But previously, I was always having to get onto him about his radical Feminist takes where he would always see men as the aggressors and the negative ones and women as the victims and the positive ones.  

This tendency came from him being raised in a very patriarchal high control religious sect and having a bad relationship with his dad.

So, he had a lot of internalized misandry from those dynamics.

And when he deconstructed from his religious background about a decade ago, he polarized over into the polar opposite ideology of rad fem (though he doesn't actually believe men can be true Feminists... in true rad fem fashion).

So, it makes sense why he would have gravitated towards those perspectives. 

[Basman]

Female abuse case in point: saying your not hungry then stealing my food like a racoon.

[integral]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

Female abuse case in point: saying your not hungry then stealing my food like a racoon.

Loool women raccoon because you asked her a future question and the answer depends on how she feels in the moment.

How they feel changes every moment. And at the moment you ask her the question she might feel one way, but when the food is placed in front of her she will feel another.

This is why women continuously say “I don’t know”, “maybe” and live in a state of general uncertainty about everything except when they’re stressed, when they’re stressed they’re certain about everything… until they calm down, and suddenly they questioned all of their decisions because those decisions were made with different feelings.

this is why women are attracted to men who are rocks and describe their men as “my rock”. Your job is to be stable for them.

When you ask her a question, they’re simply is no answer to the question. The answer is it depends. When I feel.

The above is generally true for women that are mostly stuck at a stage three level of development. But because of the unstable nature of a woman’s feelings, she tends to be at many stages of development all at the same time. So she can easily regress to the lower self and bounce back to the higher self many times during the day. 

Edited February 6 by integral

[Basman]

11 hours ago, integral said:

Loool women raccoon because you asked her a future question and the answer depends on how she feels in the moment.

How they feel changes every moment. And at the moment you ask her the question she might feel one way, but when the food is placed in front of her she will feel another.

This is why women continuously say “I don’t know”, “maybe” and live in a state of general uncertainty about everything except when they’re stressed, when they’re stressed they’re certain about everything… until they calm down, and suddenly they questioned all of their decisions because those decisions were made with different feelings.

this is why women are attracted to men who are rocks and describe their men as “my rock”. Your job is to be stable for them.

When you ask her a question, they’re simply is no answer to the question. The answer is it depends. When I feel.

The above is generally true for women that are mostly stuck at a stage three level of development. But because of the unstable nature of a woman’s feelings, she tends to be at many stages of development all at the same time. So she can easily regress to the lower self and bounce back to the higher self many times during the day. 

Who was it again who said that women are like the half-way point between a child and a man? Of course they are drawn to strong leadership if they behave so dependently.