Female Abuse Example

[integral]

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An example when the roles are reversed. Woman is screaming like a lunatic at her boyfriend in the middle of an airport. People around are laughing at the show.

At the end she screams "Your a LOSER". And of course it's pure abuse but there's a small Point here that he can't get away from this woman's abuse. It's very unlikely this is not the first time this has happened he's probably enjured this abuse for years like many men do who are in this reversed position.

These kind of relationships normally start off with the abuser love bombing the guy. To the point where he gets attached and after that point she plays the hot and cold game. 

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• Intermittent Reinforcement: This pattern of behavior is a form of intermittent reinforcement, where the rewards (affection) are given unpredictably, making the behavior (staying in the relationship) more resistant to extinction. The man becomes conditioned to tolerate the abuse for the occasional moments of love.
• Cognitive Dissonance: The man might experience cognitive dissonance, where he struggles to reconcile the loving person he initially met with the abusive behavior he now faces. This can lead to rationalizations or denial of the abuse.
• Trauma Bonding: The cycle of abuse followed by affection creates a trauma bond, where the emotional highs and lows create a powerful attachment. The man might feel that the relationship is unique or that he has a special connection with the abuser.
• Self-Doubt: The hot and cold dynamic can lead to self-doubt, where the man questions his own worth, actions, or perceptions, making him more susceptible to manipulation.

 

[Leo Gura]

Men and women can both be abusive. I don't see what this video proves other than that this girl is mentally ill.

Can girls get away with more bad behavior in public? Generally yes since they are less physically threatening.

Edited yesterday at 01:30 AM by Leo Gura

[Princess Arabia]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Can girls get away with more bad behavior in public? Generally yes since they are less physically threatening.

This is the difference. A female can hit you where it stings but a man can hit you where it kills. That's just an analogy, but women, especially if they're teenie and weenie and petite doesn't cause that much harm VS a strong physically powerful male. Usually a female's physical abuse is not that life threatening VS a man's. I know they can get violent, but i'm speaking on a general scale.

[integral]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Men and women can both be abusive. I don't see what this video proves other than that this girl is mentally ill.

I agree, I was pointing out a common pattern. lol

But I think the video does represent a man who is choosing to be in this relationship. Andrew Tate is not standing there accepting This Woman's yelling. You need to have a specific kind of temperament to find yourself in this relationship, and the general pattern of how that relationship happens is that of course it starts good and then slowly the hot and cold Behavior shows up and then slowly it escalates. And somehow the relationship escalates to the point of extreme abuse, and you are trapped in abuse and don't even know you're being abused, because it crept up slowly through Hot and Cold Love.

[Buck Edwards]

A woman's mental and emotional abuse can cause a lot of harm to the partner. 

She might not be physically threatening. But she can be mentally exhausting, drama creating and emotionally abusive and that can make a man depressed and even suicidal.

Often female abuse doesn't get talked about and is usually pushed under the rug especially if the female is attractive. Pretty privileges. 

 

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

A woman's mental and emotional abuse can cause a lot of harm to the partner. 

She might not be physically threatening. But she can be mentally exhausting, drama creating and emotionally abusive and that can make a man depressed and even suicidal.

Often female abuse doesn't get talked about and is usually pushed under the rug especially if the female is attractive. Pretty privileges. 

 

Yes, that's understandable. However, we both mentioned physically.

[Hojo]

Mental abuse is worse than physical.

Edited yesterday at 02:16 AM by Hojo

[Buck Edwards]

I once called someone close to me an asshole because I was really angry at them. I don't know if that counts as abuse. 

I do feel guilty about that incident. But at the same time I was really emotionally volatile in that situation and there was legit reason for me to be upset. 

 

Edited yesterday at 02:31 AM by Buck Edwards

[Leo Gura]

16 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Mental abuse is worse than physical.

A notion that can only be held by one who has not been physically abused.

[Hojo]

@Leo Gura Wounds heal, mental abuse is a trap you dont even know your in.

[Buck Edwards]

@Hojo I think with physical abuse there's some degree of mental abuse inherent to it. Because when you tolerate someone hitting you, it impacts your self esteem and makes you feel vulnerable, fragile, helpless, unable to fight back and humiliated as well as scared of future attacks. Living in that anxiety constantly over future attacks is already a form of mental destruction and slow spiralling into depression, self neglect and self harm. 

[Princess Arabia]

42 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Mental abuse is worse than physical.

Depends on who is receiving the abuse and their perception of it. There are people who even get off on being abused. That's another topic. Nothing is as it seems.

[Hojo]

@Buck EdwardsPhysical does require mental healing and can be healed. If we mix them then they are both bad because you generally experience both when being abused. Physical abuse is over the trauma is there and can be release, mental abuse is making the person insane without them knowing.

Yes ultimate torture is worse than mental abuse but im not talking about getting raped my a dildo in your ass for infinite time or anything. If that happens of course I will be mentally fucked more than words can do to me.

This kinda proves that mental is worse because physical is over when its over.

Edited yesterday at 03:09 AM by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

15 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Leo Gura Wounds heal, mental abuse is a trap you dont even know your in.

Mental abuse is also a wound that can be healed. Hospitals have the words Trauma Response on their titles, referring to accident victims. Mental trauma is physical trauma internalized. The internal system went through it's own trauma. Breaking a leg is the same as breaking someone's heart. It's treatment is the difference and what type of bandages are used. A rebound relationship is a bandage one puts on the heart to mend it. 

Edited yesterday at 03:08 AM by Princess Arabia

[Buck Edwards]

2 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Buck EdwardsPhysical does require mental healing and can be healed. If we mix them then they are both bad because you generally experience both when being abused. Physical abuse is over the trauma is there and can be release, mental abuse is making the person insane without them knowing.

Yes ultimate torture is worse than mental abuse but im not talking about getting raped my a dildo in your ass for infinite time or anything. If that happens of course I will be mentally fucked more than words can do to me.

What if someone is physically abused and they suffer ptsd as a result and have panic attacks for the rest of their lives? 

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia If I break my leg I will go to the doctor and get it fixed if I have mental abuse I wont do anything and my life will be ruined and possibly kill myself. It can be healed but impacts life x100 and the person dosent know there is a problem, and no one can help them cause they dont know there is a problem.

Edited yesterday at 03:12 AM by Hojo

[Hojo]

@Buck Edwards I would say when the body heals the physical abuse is healed. There could still be trauma in the body that needs to be released. The PTSD and panic attacks are mental abuse and worse than the physical abuse because they ruin your life.

[Princess Arabia]

When you guys really understand the dynamics of how pain is felt, treated, internalized and/or processed, both physical and mental pain, you will start to understand what the saying "there's no one" really means. I know I say that a lot on the forum and it sounds woo woo and like some spiritual bullshit fantasy, but it's exactly why even this discussion about pain can get so technical, confusing and misunderstood. Let me give an e.g.

If your hand gets chopped off, would you say, "I got chopped off", no, you'd say my hand got chopped off. Two things there. My and hand. If your heart gets broken do you say, I got broken, no my and heart. If your kidney gets removed, you don't say I got removed. Your hand gets hit with a hammer, you'll say I got hit with a hammer on my hand. Why not say my hand got hit with a hammer. You identify with your body parts only when they are attached. If they are severed they are not you anymore. When you feel pain, it's only because you've identified with the body, so now the pain is yours. When your severed hand is across the street, you don't feel the pain of the hand, you feel the pain on your shoulder, the hand no longer is you, but the shoulder part is, and that's why you feel it. You feel that heartache because you've identified with the thoughts that come with the heartache, the heart is physically fine, it's the thoughts that's painful. Thought's aren't painful, only the sensation felt. The sensation is felt because you think there's something there. Nothing is there. There's no one feeling anything. What you think you feel is not yours, but an identification with who you think you are. Once there's a you, everything else is connected to that you, but it really isn't and that's the friggin illusion. 

Only feelings, sensations, body parts that we've identified with. There's no one in these bodies.

Edited yesterday at 03:34 AM by Princess Arabia

[Letho]

@integral this was actually hilarious.

It's the guys own fault.

We put ourselves male or female in these positions.

It's our responsibility to determine accurate life and therefore relationship principles versus inaccurate ones.

If we fail in our accuracy, it's our own decision making, attachment style, etc that needs repairing not the other person, that's their responsibility, you made the choice as a person to make their abuse your responsibility by being with them and or tolerating it in any way.

Granted, I have empathy for naive people, I was one of them, I have also had bad behaviour, however once you're aware of the issue its your responsibility to remove the naivety and to not accept abuse. Any form of abuse is a form of ignorance regardless as to the short term power trip it provides and therefore, to an extent it genuinely requires empathy however to the other side, it should never under any condition be tolerated in any way shape or form. Male or female treats me badly or anyone I know badly, they're cut off immediately and then boundaries escalate from there, I'm aware that I can sometimes be too protective as well, we all have unique combinations we have to appraise with wisdom. I react in the same exact same way towards myself as well, The Kybalion, "as above so below, so below as above", principle of correspondence. People are ignorant, this is normality, don't tolerate the complacency of the male either. Have empathy for both, it's become taboo to talk about applying empathy in all situations these days only to the level that we have personal ignorance in applying it with intelligence, an upgrade in our own personal intelligence, inclusive of our sense of humour, is what's needed across the board for our empathic boundaries that have a strong boldness to them, since when were we so ignorant to believe that empathy needed to be without masculine boldness? This is the magnitude of our lack of sophistication in western society these days, a man must place this authority over maturing his intelligence accordingly in all instances, as for a woman, well I can't speak for a woman only for the uncompromising personal boundaries that I have for behaviour male or female, which alters across context, uniqueness of relationship, age, etc, etc, intelligence is an operational function that adapts to change, not static norms that are a defense mechanism to a lack of intelligence one is unable to employ, which again, only to the level it's intelligent to do so also requires empathy, that's strength in judgement.

 

🎄 Merry Christmas yal 🎄 

 

Go and enjoy yourselves for heaven's sake fuck it's Christmas right? Sincerely! Heh! 🎁🌎🤠

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 03:44 AM by Letho

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Hojo said:

Wounds heal

If you break your leg, yeah. But if some human is doing it to you, that's gonna be serious trauma.