Life is unbelievable, pure beauty and perfect harmony, complete Love

[Breakingthewall]

On 26/12/2024 at 2:59 PM, James123 said:

Of course, it is mine or ego's opinion. Why should I choose suffering instead of having fun? lol. By the way, my life is not easy.

Maybe if you are 14 years old and are prisoner in a jail in Nigeria and every night 10 guys fuck you by force life could be less nice, or if you are a old woman with an stroke alone in a charity hospital that no one visits, or millions of possibilities. Being human is very often suffering. If real suffering seems beautiful to you, then yes. If you and your whole family are impaled and the 3 days of agony watching them and yourself impaled seem beautiful to you, then everything is ok

[Breakingthewall]

On 26/12/2024 at 2:45 PM, James123 said:

Before your birth, there was an any ego?

Yes, there were infinite other egos. 

[Breakingthewall]

In fact human life is not beautiful, if you compare human life with any other being, everything is in harmony except humans, seems that human are like a transition stage where reality is given birth to another dimension, and humans are the intermediate stage, and the pain of the birth is the huge human suffering that is the engine of evolution. Most of humans are unconscious of their level of suffering, and they deceive themselves with self help techniques to avoid face directly they darkness, because would be unbearable 

[James123]

30 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Maybe if you are 14 years old and are prisoner in a jail in Nigeria and every night 10 guys fuck you by force life could be less nice, or if you are a old woman with an stroke alone in a charity hospital that no one visits, or millions of possibilities. Being human is very often suffering. If real suffering seems beautiful to you, then yes. If you and your whole family are impaled and the 3 days of agony watching them and yourself impaled seem beautiful to you, then everything is ok

These are all thoughts. How many times did you witness actual suffering instead of seeing on tv?

25 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes, there were infinite other egos. 

You are completely deluded. 

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4 minutes ago, James123 said:

These are all thoughts. How many times did you witness actual suffering instead of seeing on tv?

Well I saw some people dying in a way that I would call horrible, people have cancer and those shit , not only in tv, it's real, happens every moment 

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

You are completely deluded

sorry to say, but when I read you I only perceive arrogance and self deception 

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[Asia P]

@James123 in theory theres no difference between what you describe, and a torture jail. It is hard to see beauty in some things, and easier in others. But in theory theres beauty into every possible state of consciousness.... Mmhmhmmhhhh

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Well I saw some people dying in a way that I would call horrible, people have cancer and those shit , not only in tv, it's real, happens every moment 

İ had a open heart surgery and many other disease, when you directly realize that body is not you, you think much less. You see just the beauty. Your problem is imagination.

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2 minutes ago, James123 said:

İ had a open heart surgery and many other disease, when you directly realize that body is not you, you think much less. You see just the beauty. Your problem is imagination.

Sure, then if I crucify your son in front you and you see him in agony for 3 days , you would see it beautiful because the body is not him

[James123]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Sure, then if I crucify your son in front you and you see him in agony for 3 days , you would see it beautiful because the body is not him

See still imagination, which creates thinking therefore you suffer. İt is not actual. Actualize

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, James123 said:

Your problem is imagination.

Your problem is self deception, but I can't solve it, then good luck with it 

Just now, James123 said:

ee still imagination, which creates thinking therefore you suffer. İt is not actual. Actualize

Yeah sure. That's self help, aka self deception. Ask Buddha, life is suffering. Karma, suffering ,engine of evolution.

[James123]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Your problem is self deception, but I can't solve it, then good luck with it 

Yeah sure. That's self help, aka self deception. Ask Buddha, life is suffering. Karma, suffering ,engine of evolution.

Of course life is suffering but as a self, but without the self, it is beautiful. İt is already is, because now is the source. 

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

See still imagination, which creates thinking therefore you suffer. İt is not actual. Actualize

The correct answer being enlightened would be: if I see my son in agony I would see the perfect beauty in it and I would be happy for him because he's burning his karma to arrive to the absolute opening in the next stage. But being honest, would be that?

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, James123 said:

Of course life is suffering but as a self, but without the self, it is beautiful. İt is already is, because now is the source. 

Sure but I don't believe at all that you are there, nor me or anyone here, and almost no one single person in the world 

[James123]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

The correct answer being enlightened would be: if I see my son in agony I would see the perfect beauty in it and I would be happy for him because he's burning his karma to arrive to the absolute opening in the next stage. But being honest, would be that?

There is no son. 

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Sure but I don't believe at all that you are there, nor me or anyone here, and almost no one single person in the world 

İf there is a you, you could think. Whatever we say is illusion. Don't give a fuck man, fuck it. Surrender, have fun. 

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, James123 said:

There is no son. 

İf there is a you, you could think. Whatever we say is illusion. Don't give a fuck man, fuck it. Surrender, have fun. 

Good luck with your deception.