Is Sadhguru the Most ACCURATE Source of Universe Knowledge Today? | Scientist | Adiyo

[Ishanga]

7 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

In fairness Osho talked at length about response ability 40 years ago.

yes he was one of he only ones, I discovered him after discovering Sadhguru, but who else really...

On the intellectual level, Osho and Sadhguru are similar, but that is where the similarity ends..totally different mystics!!

Edited yesterday at 03:46 PM by Ishanga

[Lyubov]

I received the teaching of responsibility when it was time for me to enter creator mode. Different aspects of life lessons / spirituality / seeking (whatever you want to call it) find their way into your life when you are ready to receive/perceive them. It's impossible to not be responsible. 

[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

I'd say he is far and away the most advanced mind here and if you don't see that, that speaks a lot about your understanding. He speaks from direct experience and explains simply and elegantly. Never needs to quote another source. He gets emotional but that makes him the more authentic since people are too dim to see the pointers and emotion is a way to convey personal things even more powerfully. He writes a lot but is not on the forum that much if you look at his timeline. That makes his contribution all the more impressive.

I love you too. Agree, I'm sharp as a blade 🤣

[Ishanga]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I love you too. Agree, I'm sharp as a blade 🤣

lol until You too luv birds have another fight, then it all goes out the window like it did a couple of months ago, he was praising You, then You put him down in a post and then all he said was that You need more work, and bla bla bla, it was like watching a bunch of bums on the street fighting about a match stick, its too crazy around here at times..that is why i come and go, not here all day debating nothing that means really nothing..

Edited yesterday at 03:52 PM by Ishanga

[Ishanga]

6 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

I received the teaching of responsibility when it was time for me to enter creator mode. Different aspects of life lessons / spirituality / seeking (whatever you want to call it) find their way into your life when you are ready to receive/perceive them. It's impossible to not be responsible. 

ppl respond to small things, things that they like and dislike, and small communities like their family, friends, social network or favorite hockey team,, its okay but limited to live this way, if You respond to everything that comes into Your Life, then Your Inclusive in Nature, that is Oneness... when You respond to limited things, then Your Exclusive and that is Separateness..

[gettoefl]

8 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

yes he was one of he only ones, I discovered him after discovering Sadhguru, but who else really...

On the intellectual level, Osho and Sadhguru are similar, but that is where the similarity ends..totally different mystics!!

Osho was laser focussed on the one things that is important. Sadhguru is very knowledgeable and therefore teaches those 1001 things that people care about.

Choose your path carefully.

[gettoefl]

10 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I love you too. Agree, I'm sharp as a blade 🤣

Bro you're wasted 😂

not on drugs but your talent is not being seen

[Breakingthewall]

@Ishanga look, Do you think I wouldn't like there to be a truly enlightened guy who knew all the secrets of the cosmos and came here to tell them? Of course I would, that would be wonderful. But I look at that guy under a microscope, and as I do so I see more and more possibilities of it being a funny and brilliant joke.

Don't you realize that saying: use your trauma to grow! Is that so simple? It's fake, it's obvious, accompanied by measured gestures, eye drops, slow, exact head movements, jovial and tender hand movements at the same time. Fucking genius! Master! Boss! I bow before him, his impudence, his courage. 

But let's give a place for the doubt 

[gettoefl]

6 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

lol until You too luv birds have another fight, then it all goes out the window like it did a couple of months ago, he was praising You, then You put him down in a post and then all he said was that You need more work, and bla bla bla, it was like watching a bunch of bums on the street fighting about a match stick, its too crazy around here at times..that is why i come and go, not here all day debating nothing that means really nothing..

We do spar on the regular. Gloves come off. But it always deepens understanding. We can both take good hits. And hints at the ultimate.

[gettoefl]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Ishanga look, Do you think I wouldn't like there to be a truly enlightened guy who knew all the secrets of the cosmos and came here to tell them? Of course I would, that would be wonderful. But I look at that guy under a microscope, and as I do so I see more and more possibilities of it being a funny and brilliant joke.

Don't you realize that saying: use your trauma to grow! Is that so simple? It's fake, it's obvious, accompanied by measured gestures, eye drops, slow, exact head movements, jovial and tender hand movements at the same time. Fucking genius! Master! Boss! I bow before him, his impudence, his courage. 

But let's give a place for the doubt 

The 1001 things cannot be fully understood. This place doesn't have any logic. When Newton thought he cracked it along comes Einstein and proves there is something completely different in relativity. And as we know Einstein's approach doesn't come close to explaining it all. Nothing here can ever make sense. It is an idle hologram. Do what counts only.

Edited yesterday at 04:07 PM by gettoefl

[Ishanga]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Ishanga look, Do you think I wouldn't like there to be a truly enlightened guy who knew all the secrets of the cosmos and came here to tell them? Of course I would, that would be wonderful. But I look at that guy under a microscope, and as I do so I see more and more possibilities of it being a funny and brilliant joke.

Don't you realize that saying: use your trauma to grow! Is that so simple? It's fake, it's obvious, accompanied by measured gestures, eye drops, slow, exact head movements, jovial and tender hand movements at the same time. Fucking genius! Master! Boss! I bow before him, his impudence, his courage. 

But let's give a place for the doubt 

I don't think he said it was a simple transition, before responsibility come Living Now and how past/future is in reality memory and imagination both of which are false realities, then about Acceptance, he talks about that, he says this moment is inevitable, it cannot be any other way, via that understandings one can decrease their stress response, so that sooner or later there is no possible Stress Response in a person, but it takes work, and from all of that Responding become natural, its quite simple and brilliant at the same time...he covers the whole realm of Spiritual Science, but he says not too make it a study or subject matter, doing that will destory it, just use this stuff as tools, to grow each day little by little,,

[Breakingthewall]

The problem with sadhguru is that he is useful in the sense that yoga is useful, then he's selling yoga that's very good for the people, the energy and everything, then to sell yoga he's creating a character very magnetic, the omniscient magic avatar. It's like saying the kids that santa Claus exist, it's not bad, it's good for them, then they are happy.

But we are not kids, we want the real thing, the total, absolute opening to the total reality, without anything else,. absolute enlightenment to the absolute light of existence. Alleluha!

And if someone is telling histories for kids , he's an hindrance, a terrorist, a son of a bitch, a real devil. Like Muhammad right? This book is written directly by god. Just a small lie for the greater good, what's bad in that? They are just kids. What could get wrong?

Son of a bitch of the hell. Only the truth is allowed, anything else is evilness 

[Ishanga]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The problem with sadhguru is that he is useful in the sense that yoga is useful, then he's selling yoga that's very good for the people, the energy and everything, then to sell yoga he's creating a character very magnetic, the omniscient magic avatar. It's like saying the kids that santa Claus exist, it's not bad, it's good for them, then they are happy.

But we are not kids, we want the real thing, the total, absolute opening to the total reality, without anything else,. absolute enlightenment to the absolute light of existence. Alleluha!

And if someone is telling histories for kids , he's an hindrance, a terrorist, a son of a bitch, a real devil. Like Muhammad right? This book is written directly by god. Just a small lie for the greater good, what's bad in that? They are just kids. What could get wrong?

Son of a bitch of the hell. Only the truth is allowed, anything else is evilness 

I can see this for sure, I don't really watch much of Sadhguru's videos anymore, I've seen them all and it becomes repeated after awhile, I've heard all the stories and jokes and the basics.. and from what I can tell this is planned out to be this way as You describe, its done on purpose...

If You want the more indepth stuff, there are Sadhanapada programs, and such where Your 24/7 in Sadhana mode at the ashrams, and he is different they say in advanced programs, but yes there is lots of marketing going on, this is needed to change and maybe transform this world from where it is now!

[Breakingthewall]

11 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

how past/future is in reality memory and imagination both of which are false realities,

Not agree, the past is real. There are real energetic pathways built into your psyche as solid as a stone wall. All that focusing on the present, Eckhart Tolle philosophy, never works for the simple reason that the structure of the human psyche doesn't work that way.

They want to simplify what is not simple. If you want to change the energetic pathways of your psyche, you have to do it violently and constantly, because they are solidly set up. What you can do is fool yourself in many ways believing that you did a real change when it's just illusion 

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

You want the more indepth stuff, there are Sadhanapada programs, and such where Your 24/7 in Sadhana mode at the ashrams, and he is different they say in advanced programs, but yes there is lots of marketing going on, this is needed to change and maybe transform this world from where it is now!

Then maybe he's an enlightened and a genius. That's why I said he's an enigma, but maybe he's just a fake. Very interesting dilemma  

Anyway, someone who lies.... 

Edited yesterday at 04:27 PM by Breakingthewall

[gettoefl]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then maybe he's an enlightened and a genius. That's why I said he's an enigma, but maybe he's just a fake. Very interesting dilemma  

Anyway, someone who lies.... 

My take is, anyone who has interest in the world is a fraud. The world is my past coming to life to see how I deal with it. I am not looking to keep on giving it energy. I have to learn that lesson and drop the significance of it being there. I am here for me. My breadcrumbs may be useful for you. But I am not fussed if you don't visit my ashram.

[Breakingthewall]

36 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

My take is, anyone who has interest in the world is a fraud. The world is my past coming to life to see how I deal with it. I am not looking to keep on giving it energy. I have to learn that lesson and drop the significance of it being there. I am here for me. My breadcrumbs may be useful for you. But I am not fussed if you don't visit my ashram.

Well, many enlightened of all times have become teachers. Buddha, etc. The thing is that seems that sadhguru has invented a method for increasing the level of consciousness on thousands (according to him) that needs that you give to him your will, and for that he has created a character like a divine avatar with super powers, but not with the intention of abuse but the real opening of the energetic blockages of people that otherwise never would be able to do that, then maybe he's a real genius 

[gettoefl]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Well, many enlightened of all times have become teachers. Buddha, etc. The thing is that seems that sadhguru has invented a method for increasing the level of consciousness on thousands (according to him) that needs that you give to him your will, and for that he has created a character like a divine avatar with super powers, but not with the intention of abuse but the real opening of the energetic blockages of people that otherwise never would be able to do that, then maybe he's a real genius 

Seems I need to become a zombie.

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

Seems I need to become a zombie.

Not you, but others maybe. according sadhguru of course. But who knows what he really thinks or is. What's sure is that he is a very powerful influence 

[Ishanga]

48 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Well, many enlightened of all times have become teachers. Buddha, etc. The thing is that seems that sadhguru has invented a method for increasing the level of consciousness on thousands (according to him) that needs that you give to him your will, and for that he has created a character like a divine avatar with super powers, but not with the intention of abuse but the real opening of the energetic blockages of people that otherwise never would be able to do that, then maybe he's a real genius 

Where is this coming from, giving Will how and why? He's all about You the individual rising in Consciousness, he offers many ways to do this, one does not need to be in his presence or come to the ashram (hence the online programs), one does not have to go any further than the basic Kriya he offers, which is free and available to anyone to use, he offers more than this, so all the options are there, it depends on what One wants out of it, just basic wellbeing or to go all the way..as I said, which You found offensive, was that he actually holds ppl back before they go all the way and dissolve out of this realm completely, so that we the ppl can benefit from having them here on the planet and balancing things out and helping on many levels, and plus for sure he doesn't want ppl dissolving at the ashram that would cause too much drama and name calling and such things...