Gambling & spirituality

[cistanche_enjoyer]

What exactly is gambling?
 

Can you go meta while gambling in a casino? What are some insights you had while gambling?

[Hojo]

1 hour ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

What exactly is gambling?
 

People risking money for more money

 

1 hour ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

Can you go meta while gambling in a casino?

Yes but they are watching for people doing it. They have all the statistics of gambling and pay attention to win rates.

 

1 hour ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

\What are some insights you had while gambling?

Didn't like it. 0 insights except it wasn't for me.

[LordFall]

Enjoy the ride. I like gambling just gotta do it responsibly. 

[Leo Gura]

The insight is, don't gamble. The end.

[PsychedelicEagle]

On 12/24/2024 at 1:17 AM, Leo Gura said:

The insight is, don't gamble. The end.

+1

 

I've played poker around 2010 semi-professionally, when I was beginning University. I managed to make 12k dollars out of $50 bucks. Back in the day, poker was easier, if you would study the game and have the mental stability to apply it consistently.

Some of my grinding nights put me through extreme stress -- there was one time I lost half of my bankroll due to a very unlikely series of bad beats. If you gamble often enough, you are sure going to test the limits of your mental stability.

Ultimately, gambling for money, even if you know what you're doing, is a zero-sum game. You are always relying on the mistakes of others to win; your actions are basically to create baits where others will fall. It can increase your appreciation for the deep deception mechanisms necessary for survival.

Due to this survival character, I believe gambling has the potential to get you stuck into lower spiral levels. The activity often attracts people who focus on the short-term over the long-run. If you have a more sustainable mindset, that can be a big advantage, given you know how to place yourself in situations where you Expected Value is positive.

 

One of the insights I can share out of the top of my head is that projection is very real. People who play loosely have a hard time placing other players as tight players, just as a basic example. You can definitely leverage a lot of psychological understanding to improve your game.

That said, I don't believe gambling is something worth pursuing. Someone is generally better off working with something creative; a non-zero-sum game. Put your time on something that will create value not only for you but for others too, and see your inner balance and true happiness flourish.

Edited December 27, 2024 by PsychedelicEagle

[integral]

Gambling is like any other profession, If you're born with the genetics for it, and apply yourself you'll dominate the world.

This guy is the Michael Jordan of gambling.

His Opinion: "casinos are evil, sinful, dirty dark places that are only built to destroy people and their lives."

Edited December 28, 2024 by integral

[The Crocodile]

The Amazing Atheist (no longer an atheist) said while playing roulette in Vegas he had an orgasmic feeling in his body and successfully guessed the exact roulette number. He said the same thing happened four times.

The odds of consistently guessing single-number outcomes on an American roulette wheel four times is 1/2,085,136 The odds of that being associated with a specific "orgasmic" feeling that's only happened four times in your life is 7.8×10 to the power of -41, which is extremely small. Like, REALLY, small. That's a 1/12,800,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance. Or 1 per 12.8 decillion in the short-scale naming system.

So a spiritual force or some other paranormal force could help you.

[jimwell]

11 hours ago, integral said:

Gambling is like any other profession, If you're born with the genetics for it, and apply yourself you'll dominate the world.

This guy is the Michael Jordan of gambling.

His Opinion: "casinos are evil, sinful, dirty dark places that are only built to destroy people and their lives."

He is the Michael Jordan of spontaneously spewing humanshit (BS). 

But yes, gambling can be a good profession if the gambler is strategic.

There are more similarities than differences between gambling, stock (currency, commodity, etc.) trading or investing, and starting a business. All activities risk money for the opportunity to gain money. A gambler, trader (or investor), or businessperson can be strategic or reckless, and they derive excitement and other emotional stimulations from the activity they participate in. I had a quick conversation with ChatGPT about this topic a few days ago.

 

But there is one thing which separates starting a business from the other activities: directly producing value. From society's perspective, starting a business is better and more beneficial.

[jimwell]

That was entertaining. 1:02 made me 😂.

[ricachica]

On 12/21/2024 at 2:33 PM, cistanche_enjoyer said:

What exactly is gambling?
 

Can you go meta while gambling in a casino? What are some insights you had while gambling?

My parents are card dealers at casinos…grew up around it my entire life. In early childhood my dad had a gambling addiction that involved taking thousands from the shared bank account that was being used to save for a house. Lotttss of tension and loud fights between my parents that I had to witness as a young kid.

Today he’s not an addict…but they both still spend every major holiday, birthday, and anniversary at a casino playing. Yes, including Christmas. I went with them in my adult life many times, but backed out now that I have a boyfriend so I can make excuse to not go. It’s absolutely miserable seeing all of these people spend Christmas at a casino…lots of lonely people playing cards at the table feels a bit strange. Especially when so many bring their young kids that now the rules of them being of the slot machine floor don’t exist. Parents playing the slot while the kid is sitting on the floor next to them playing on their tablet. Again, on Christmas.

Currently have multiple guy friends who are active addicts. One unfortunately lives near Las Vegas…spending unemployment checks there. His best friend is a BMW car dealer, making loadsss of money. Yet he is in the negative due to casinos as well.

Not sure I could find the “spirituality” anywhere there in any of that…

Whenever I go to Las Vegas, I prefer going to Area 15 on mdma haha. Have spent $20 total there in gambling, not my thing.

I will say that casinos have a lot of trippy, psychedelic, spiritual looking art…to maybe unconsciously influence people that they are in good place…

[ricachica]

My guy friend and I talked about his gambling addiction while we were on LSD recently, and he made some good progress during the trip in realizing he doesn’t want to do it anymore.

I told him the thought of gambling never crosses our minds in my girl friend circles…we talk about long-term financial growth and goals vs short-term typically. Maybe the male ego feels the need to fast-track financial success more…whether innately or due to societal pressures.

Literally the next day though, the thought of stopping was laughable to him, so it didn’t quite stick…I have trouble talking to him seriously about it though because of my own life experiences of it..

[cistanche_enjoyer]

On 28/12/2024 at 3:21 AM, The Crocodile said:

The Amazing Atheist (no longer an atheist) said while playing roulette in Vegas he had an orgasmic feeling in his body and successfully guessed the exact roulette number. He said the same thing happened four times.

Very interesting but also a bit hard to believe.

He’s saying he accessed a transcendental state of “predicting” the near future, but he did this from an ego perspective of personal financial gain?

Maybe the only way he could’ve done this is if then the money was intended to be used for a higher good in some way. Do you guys think this is possible?

[The Crocodile]

4 minutes ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

Very interesting but also a bit hard to believe.

He’s saying he accessed a transcendental state of “predicting” the near future, but he did this from an ego perspective of personal financial gain?

Maybe the only way he could’ve done this is if then the money was intended to be used for a higher good in some way. Do you guys think this is possible?

I believe him. I don't think he would lie about this.

Paranormal stuff exists and can be used for good and bad purposes. Tom Campbell talks about protecting people from voodoo wizards.

And paranormal stuff is different from God-Consciousness, or you don't have to be spiritual to access it.