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We all see the blatant ethnic cleansing. No excuses.

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5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

We all see the blatant ethnic cleansing. No excuses.

Even former Head of IDF who was Minister of Defense in 2013-2016 Moshe Yaalon said that 2 weeks ago and critisized the government for this EC in north Gaza.

Now also a full hostages deal isn't so sure as long as Ben Gvir can collapse the government if he quits and Bibi will do anything to survive. Our political method is very problematic.

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2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

He wrote like 17 tweets on it, his passion exposes his agenda too.

How do ordinary Israelis feel about the ethnic cleansing campaign Israel is currently doing on Gaza?

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4 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

How do ordinary Israelis feel about the ethnic cleansing campaign Israel is currently doing on Gaza?

Dude, they are too brainwashed with Zionism to know.


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6 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

How do ordinary Israelis feel about the ethnic cleansing campaign Israel is currently doing on Gaza?

72% want the war to end yesterday.


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26 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

How do ordinary Israelis feel about the ethnic cleansing campaign Israel is currently doing on Gaza?

 

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36 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

72% want the war to end yesterday.

That’s because they want the hostages back, they support everything that has happened to Palestinians. 

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Ending the war will not end the ethnic cleansing.


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22 minutes ago, Raze said:

That’s because they want the hostages back, they support everything that has happened to Palestinians. 

That is already your interpretation.

People are busy with their lives and with other circles of concern that are not associated in their brain with a threat to their lives and aren't less important. Therefore the mind will be biased towards filtering out Palestinians from those circles. It is easy for you to say because you are not living here.

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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Ending the war will not end the ethnic cleansing.

I assume you mean here to the west bank settlements expansion, because if the war ends IDF is supposed to be completely out of Gaza according to the deal and hamas demands.

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Dude, they are too brainwashed with Zionism to know.

You don't need to brainwash anybody, you only need an exploding bus in Tel Aviv every couple of weeks for years and that will be enough to make your mind associate "Palestinians" with a life threat for you. They are half of the equation and have heavy responsibility to the way Israelis see them.

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57 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

You don't need to brainwash anybody, you only need an exploding bus in Tel Aviv every couple of weeks for years and that will be enough to make your mind associate "Palestinians" with a life threat for you. They are half of the equation and have heavy responsibility to the way Israelis see them.


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1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

I assume you mean here to the west bank settlements expansion, because if the war ends IDF is supposed to be completely out of Gaza according to the deal and hamas demands.

No. I mean the entire Israeli project. This includes West Bank, Gaza, and more. Gaza will be settled and ethnically cleansed even after the war. There's not really going to be an end to this. Occupation of Gaza will continue indefinitely.

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You don't need to brainwash anybody, you only need an exploding bus in Tel Aviv every couple of weeks for years and that will be enough to make your mind associate "Palestinians" with a life threat for you.

That's not the real issue. The real issue is the brainwashing which convinces Israelis that all of that lands belongs to them. That is the purpose of the brainwashing. It's an issue of narcissistic entitlement.

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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's not the real issue. The real issue is the brainwashing which convinces Israelis that all of that lands belongs to them. That is the purpose of the brainwashing. It's an issue of narcissistic entitlement.

This does not change the fact that the majority of Israelis do not hold this ideology, nor believe in it, nor desire to have land in Gaza or the West Bank.

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2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

This does not change the fact that the majority of Israelis do not hold this ideology, nor believe in it, nor desire to have land in Gaza or the West Bank.

This is irrelevant. Israelis have been witnessing an ongoing genocide and as a collective ( I know not very single one but as a collective) are approving of it and most know the end goal and already justifying it in their head that all is acceptable for the sake of their own security. Unless they speak out against it (not the hostages) then their silence is approval. Pretty much just like the Germans who knew what Hitler was doing and remained passive.

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2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

This does not change the fact that the majority of Israelis do not hold this ideology, nor believe in it, nor desire to have land in Gaza or the West Bank.

Then why they keep voting for parties that DO belive in it?

Likud party which is pro expansion and sees all that land as Israel had the most votes.

It is good you do not see things like they do but I feel like most Israelis vote for parties which reflect those views.

Or am I missing something?

So 2022 election: Likud (32 seats ), Lapid (I assume he is not pro expansion? 24 seats), Smotrich the right wing fascist (14 seats and 8 more seats since the previous election), Benny Gantz (I assume anti expansion?, 12 seats), Aryeh Deri, seems like religious fanatic (11 seats).

So yeah, you can see like the pro expansion parties getting 2x more mandates than the moderates.

 

 

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