New school shooting in Wisconsin

[Inliytened1]

On 12/17/2024 at 5:19 AM, zazen said:

Has anyone here seen Joker 2? I just saw it this past weekend, and with recent incidents such as Luigi's CEO assassination and now this - it made me think of the parallels. The connection here is that there is pain being dealt with in the wrong way. Their acting out like Joker when they could have or should have been Batman. All, including Batman - essentially view the system as unjust - but Batman and Joker diverge in their paths to redressing that injustice. People empathise not because they condone violence, but understand the pain it can come from.

A Joker destroys, because he no longer sees the soul at all. He rejects society because he feels like society rejected him - didn't see him or nurture his soul enough to allow him to connect with it, so that he could connect likewise with the soul in others. Batman was given a love that was taken from him by violence, spawned from a system of unjust crime and corruption - Joker was never loved at all. Batman had hope for society because he once had love.

Without giving spoilers - Joker 1 was about the conditions that twist the individual (Joker), Joker 2 is about finding that others have also been twisted by that same system - and finding a solidarity in that ie revolutionary rage. But, they deal with the pain in the same cold manner of the system that caused it - not seeing the person behind it. People didn't love or see the man behind the mask of Joker, they were in solidarity with the pain, but not the man behind it.

Luigi had more tools than most to be a Batman - wealth, access,  intellect (not intelligence or wisdom) - but chose the path of a Joker.

But he had love so that throws out your theory.

So when you get fucked by society what makes you the Joker or the Pengujn vs Batman?  Batman's parents were killed when he was a child.

The bigger question is - is there a difference between them?   Batman was a vigilante if you don't recall.

Edited 5 hours ago by Inliytened1

[integral]

She stated in the manifesto she wants all males to die… OK… then maybe kill Andrew Tate? Seems like a solid candidate? He’s the leader of toxic masculinity, the perfect target!

A school feels like the least interesting or appealing thing to target? How can that possibly satisfy you? 

How can these people be satisfied with such a mediocre target?

Have a bigger dream?

Edited 5 hours ago by integral

[integral]

Can someone explain to me why a school is appealing to their fantasy? 

[aurum]

6 minutes ago, integral said:

Can someone explain to me why a school is appealing to their fantasy? 

She was obviously not mentally well.

I'm not sure why'd you expect some thorough, well-thought out plan.

[integral]

They just want their anger and hatred  fulfilled without doing any real work to get it because they have no energy and want to die as quickly as possible. There so miserable, they can barely breathe air, life is unbearably uncomfortable..

Edited 4 hours ago by integral

[integral]

14 minutes ago, aurum said:

She was obviously not mentally well.

I'm not sure why'd you expect some thorough, well-thought out plan.

The Trump shooter seemed to be able to dream bigger?

[aurum]

38 minutes ago, integral said:

The Trump shooter seemed to be able to dream bigger?

That can't be expected of everyone.

She was a teenager with mental health issues, not John Wick.

[Leo Gura]

16 hours ago, Basman said:

Because she's insane.

She's not insane, just disgruntled and radicalized.

12 hours ago, yetineti said:

@Leo Gura
I hope you find a way to reframe however it is you’re trying to make your points.

I don't see a problem with what I said.

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I know the place this shooting happened. The idea that ‘if I’ - whatever - there will be less shootings? Ha - what a rude joke Leo.

It's not a joke. Bullying creates violent people. This is obvious.

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why haven’t you considered the way you phrase things yet?

I have considered it more than you know.

Edited 41 minutes ago by Leo Gura