New school shooting in Wisconsin

[ricachica]

1 hour ago, EdgeGod900 said:

Okay relax. She's a 5 at best. If I was a flat chested 5, I would probably shoot up a school too.

I get your point, but relax, she's mid.

And she’s also literally 15, a girl, not even fully developed yet. Let’s stop commenting on her appearance. Jokes like that don’t land with that age group either…

Edited 12 hours ago by ricachica

[Hojo]

@aurum They tried in China now they just go into pre schools and stab all the children. Its not a problem with objects even tho some make it easier. Its a society degradation problem thats happening everywhere. People have 0 self value because they dont belong anywhere. Society treats humans like a number. When a human gets treated like a number they want to die, some get angry too.

Edited 12 hours ago by Hojo

[aurum]

3 minutes ago, LambdaDelta said:

That depends. In China not so long ago a student killed 8 and injured 17 in a stab attack. Columbine was 13 dead between 2 guys, and most school shootings don't cross 7 dead. Guns have the issue of immediately alerting everyone.

Are you honestly arguing that stab attacks are more of a threat than an AR-15?

[aurum]

Just now, Hojo said:

@aurum They tried in China now they just go into pre schools and stab all the children. Its not a problem with objects even tho some make it easier. Its a society degradation problem thats happening everywhere. People have 0 self value because they dont belong anywhere.

1) It's not happening equally everywhere, it's happening disproportionately in places with more guns

2) The point is not that this would solve everything. These are just basic safety protocols

Don't be so hung up on root cause solutions that you ignore the obvious. 

[aurum]

7 minutes ago, Romanov said:

Oh look, misandry and toxic feminism. We can thank leftist propaganda against men for it. 

If men weren't so deaf to the critiques of feminism, potentially she would have had less problems with men.

[LambdaDelta]

7 minutes ago, aurum said:

Are you honestly arguing that stab attacks are more of a threat than an AR-15?

Not under the same conditions they're not, but give an AR-15 to an idiot and it won't be used effectively at all. 

[Hojo]

@aurum The first safety protocol would be dont let an insane person own a firearm. Oh wait the entire country is insane. Not looking at the root cause is the problem of government. They refuse and this is the outcome.

If the solution to all root causes were fixed we wouldnt need police. Humans are naturally good, given the proper training and environment, like a dog.

Edited 12 hours ago by Hojo

[aurum]

7 hours ago, LambdaDelta said:

but give an AR-15 to an idiot and it won't be used effectively at all. 

Neither will a knife.

If AR-15s aren't effective for school shootings, then by that logic no one needs one to protect themselves either. So they shouldn't be sold.

Edited 5 hours ago by aurum

[PenguinPablo]

@aurum I don't think there's ever been a time that I thought to myself "I might need an AR-15".

I understand the perspective of 2nd amendment to protect yourself from tyranny.

But at this point it seems like the tool is being abused for mass shooting.

Edited 12 hours ago by PenguinPablo

[aurum]

15 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@aurum The first safety protocol would be dont let an insane person own a firearm. Oh wait the entire country is insane. Not looking at the root cause is the problem of government. They refuse and this is the outcome.

If the solution to all root causes were fixed we wouldnt need police. Humans are naturally good, given the proper training and environment, like a dog.

Be smart.

The choice is not between short-term solutions and long-term, root cause solutions.

You need both.

If you get in a car accident and are bleeding out, someone has to stop the bleeding. Later you can figure out what went wrong and avoid it in the future.

[Hojo]

@aurum This isnt 'bleeding out', we are doing very good. We havent gotten in a car accident yet and we can fix it before we 'bleed out'.

Edited 12 hours ago by Hojo

[aurum]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@aurum This isnt 'bleeding out'

Then what do you consider kids being shot every year? 

A nose-itch?

[PurpleTree]

2 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

In all do seriousness, there is a serious mental health problem with teenagers. The educational system and the way children are raised in modern western society has failed totally to account for student well-being and happiness. 

Society is decent at providing some very basic needs for food and shelter, and even that, not totally as there is still homelessness and poverty. But in helping people attain to the higher needs of Abraham Maslow's model, society is insufficient. 

I vividly recall being in high school, and being M I S E R A B L E. I never slept properly because I had a compulsive issue with staring at my phone late into the night. I kept telling myself not to look at my phone in bed, but I wouldn't follow through, night after night. 

So I would wake up each morning groggy, with an intense sleep inertia. When I got home from school, I was a chronic procrastinator, so I would not start my homework until 6:00 P.M. .I remember all the late nights I spent cramming for exams, barely eating, barely sleeping. Horrible four years.

It’s not just western.

Russia for example has a very high suicide rate even among young females i think. And not just attempts but success.

And many European countries are very safe and have very low school/shootings/killings etc.

Edited 11 hours ago by PurpleTree

[AerisVahnEphelia]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Landing doesn't even apply here. It's just your twisted view of women.

Hearing guys like you is probably why she shot up that school.

The problem goes both side you know. 

Stop seeing woman as victim of men. They are not.

nature equipped them with others evil tools.

It's just another tragedy of the common.

In fact by believing that woman are victims your all mindset become as flawed as 'incel'.

Woman are not retarded or weak. What they don't have in muscle they have it in gaslighting manipulative tactics. 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

Only read one line of the manifesto. 

First assume patriarchy never existed. It's just a feeling of alienation.

What she really hate is her life in a society whose god is capital.

Capital destroyed community and atomized individual. 

The root of the problem is technology at the service of capital.

There is no solutions for this either those events will keep popping as long as there is a devotion to market and capital instead of 'god'.

No humans lives without idol. Our new idols are just empty and a void of meaning.

When people don't have a clear meaning they'll fill the void.

And they'll feel it with how they feel. 

And in a world who preach darkness the result will be to fill it with Satan.

 

[Hojo]

@aurum Id liken it to schizophrenia in the mind of the country. When adults start killing children at schools then you might be bleeding out.

[gambler]

The gender war needs to end. It’s childish and long overdue. In the same way we protect against misogyny we need to protect against misandry, and all can be better. 

[yetineti]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Hearing guys like you is probably why she shot up that school.

Unhelpful

[EdgeGod900]

2 hours ago, yetineti said:

Unhelpful

Its entertaining, so not necessarily a useless comment. Its like a roast/joke battle at this point. 

I can't make "locker room" jokes in this forum; lesson learned (for now 😉).

Edited 2 hours ago by EdgeGod900

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, yetineti said:

Unhelpful

She literally said so in her manifesto. Maybe if you take her complaints seriously there will be less shootings.

If you're gonna bully people with "locker room" insults, don't be surprised when they go on a shooting spree.

The one thing all these school shooters have in common is that they were bullied and insulted.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura