How to know You are Enlightened Experience!

[Ishanga]

Sadhguru explains it well here, topics discussed:

- Don't fall into the trap of weekend Enlightenment retreats, then being declared Enlightened by someone else, You won't miss it if it happens to You!

- Psychedelic usage and experience, it can give one a glimpse of Oneness, Absolute and the Reality, but it fades away after, this is not Enlightenment, Enlightenment is not a Doing, its a Realization that happens once the atmosphere is set up so that it flowers and blossoms naturally, that is where the work/sadhana is, in setting up the Environment.

- there are 4 types of Yoga, Jnana Yoga (Yoga of Intellect), Bhakti Yoga (Yoga of Devotion/Emotion), Karma Yoga (Yoga of Action),. Kriya Yoga (Yoga of Internal Energies), each participant of each of these disciplines thinks the others are rubbish, but once You realize that these are just 4 aspects of who You are, Head, Heart, Body and Energy and they all come together and are aligned with one another, then things line up and Enlightenment is a natural consequence!

 

 

[Breakingthewall]

Who is enlightened according sadhguru? How many people in the world? Because I don't know anyone. 

One thing is have some degrees of openess that could be almost total is some moments, but he talks about something that happens and never changes. 

[Ishanga]

15 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Who is enlightened according sadhguru? How many people in the world? Because I don't know anyone. 

One thing is have some degrees of openess that could be almost total is some moments, but he talks about something that happens and never changes. 

I don't know who he thinks is Enlightened, I don't think he thinks there are many... All he says about himself is that he knows the ultimate nature of this Human Mechanism, from its origins to its end, and via that he can relate it to others since they are the same sort of life as he is.. I don't think he has directly claimed to be enlightened, all he says in that regard is why are you concerned about what is happening with him, and to not judge him as either this or that, and to not look up or down upon anyone, just see them and recognize them as they are now.. As to what he is sharing, if You use it and it works great, if it doesn't work then drop it and move on to something else, I think this is a great way to look at it and is good advice!

For sure he has something going on that is not the norm, that cannot be denied, he's proven it on a physical level (decades of endless work, travel, not missing meeting and events, putting his life at risk (see save soil and other events over the years), and millions of testimonies that he is the real deal), so if that is not enough credibility then what is?? 

Alot of this has to do with Credibility, one can say so and so is not Enlightened, or is Enlightened, but what credibility do they have? Sadhguru has more Credibility than most anyone on the planet when it comes to Spiritual matters, so it doesn't matter what anyone one individual thinks of him, he doesn't care, will go on doing what he is doing regardless...

Edited Monday at 03:19 PM by Ishanga

[Ishanga]

How Do Different Deities Function Differently - Sadhguru's Talk

 

[Breakingthewall]

@Ishanga is there any video where he explains enlightenment? I didn't say he's fake, I just doubt. 

[Ishanga]

17 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Ishanga is there any video where he explains enlightenment? I didn't say he's fake, I just doubt. 

You'll find that there are many video's where he explains what Enlightenment is, none of them are of the same message, so my take away is not to define it in strict terms.. For me Enlightenment is when in Embodied form, You realize and experience life beyond this Embodiment, beyond this Body/Mind/Ego complex that brings about a sense of Individuality and Exclusiveness, You realize everything is Inclusive, One, Complete, via that a Great Sense of Bliss is with You always, You feel pain still, cry when loved ones are hurt or die, but You are still in Bliss, Bliss is not an Emotion, but one of the Greatest Experiences one can have within themselves, so Bliss is a fundamental aspect of Enlightenment, as is Truth and Consciousness... Sat Chit Ananda!!!

 

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, Ishanga said:

You'll find that there are many video's where he explains what Enlightenment is, none of them are of the same message, so my take away is not to define it in strict terms.. For me Enlightenment is when in Embodied form, You realize and experience life beyond this Embodiment, beyond this Body/Mind/Ego complex that brings about a sense of Individuality and Exclusiveness, You realize everything is Inclusive, One, Complete, via that a Great Sense of Bliss is with You always, You feel pain still, cry when loved ones are hurt or die, but You are still in Bliss, Bliss is not an Emotion, but one of the Greatest Experiences one can have within themselves, so Bliss is a fundamental aspect of Enlightenment, as is Truth and Consciousness... Sat Chit Ananda!!!

 

Agree with sadhguru, the thing is opening a new dimension in you that makes that the old dimensions are in this new dimension that is unlimited. (Well, I think that he means something like that). Then, you could go deeper in that dimension until it's the normal dimensión for you, and your perception changes little by little .

The points that I don't like in sadhguru is that attitude of superiority like, a guru has to play with you, because you would be so scared blablabla, but anyone has his own way to express 

Edited Monday at 07:45 PM by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

Enlightenment is not only to be open to the unlimited, that's just an step, an important one, but enlightenment goes further and I think that sadhguru talks in that sense. Enlightenment means the alignment of your being, when the resistance ceases and you perceive yourself as the perfect flow. Everything fits perfectly and your energy flows without obstacle. It's a difficult process that as sadhguru said could take thousand of lifes

 

[Hojo]

He contradicts himself immediately.

Don't let people tell you, you will know when it happens.

If you took a psychedelic and it happened and now you know, you don't , and I'm telling you you don't even without knowing you.

Edited 4 hours ago by Hojo